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10-21-1996 - Regular '-' ...., CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER 21, 1996 7:00 P.M. COMMUNITY CENTER MINUTES CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Hayman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Center. ROLL CALL Mayor Jack Hayman Councilman Danny Hatfield Councilwoman Louise Martin Councilman Michael Hays Councilman David Mitchum City Attorney Krista storey City Manager George McMahon City Clerk Susan Wadsworth Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker Present Present Present Present Arrived at 7:24 p.m. Present Present Present Present INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Mayor Hayman presented the invocation. There was a pledge of allegiance to the Flag. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. special Meeting of September 30, 1996 Councilman Hays made a motion to approve the September 30, 1996 minutes, second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0. B. Regular Meeting of October 7, 1996, continued to October 8, ~ Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve the minutes of October 7, 1996 which was continued until October 8, 1996, second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 3-0. Mayor Hayman abstained due to not being present at this meeting. C. Special Meeting of October 14, 1996 Councilman Hays made a motion to approve the October 14, 1996 minutes, second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0. CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY (Other than public hearings) William Schroeder, 218 Azalea Drive, spoke in opposition of making Evergreen Drive a through street. Cliff Clark, 1818 Evergreen Drive, questioned if the proposal to make Evergreen Drive a through street was on the north or south side of Indian River Blvd. Mayor Hayman informed him it was on the south side. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS Councilwoman Martin had nothing at this time. Councilman Hays commented on editorials in the News Journal regarding the proposed Charter changes that are going to be on November's ballot. He expressed great concern regarding the issue of a review of the Water Alliance in five years by a politically appointed partisan committee. He feels this would not be in the best interest of the people in the City of Edgewater or Volusia County. He urged citizens to look at these issues when they go to the polls. ..,. ." Mayor Hayman requested appointing someone else to represent the city on the Water Alliance. They have changed the meeting dates to Thursday and it is impractical for him to be there Thursday mornings at 8:30 a.m. The meetings are held the fourth Thursday of the month in the Pelican Bay Plaza in the offices of the Water Alliance which is shared with VCOG and the MPO. councilman Hays asked for a few days to look at this to see what they could come up with. councilman Hatfield had nothing at this time. PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS A. Public hearing Res. 96-R-27 and 96-R-28 regarding abandonment of rights-of-way on portion of Guava Drive and portion of 16th street Mayor Hayman would like to be able to have one public hearing to discuss both resolutions but they would have to vote separately on each resolution. Mayor Hayman read Res. 96-R-27 and 96-R-28 and opened the public hearing. community Development Director Mark Karet made a staff presentation. He called Council's attention to two items of concern and presented the background information. The two items of concern have been incorporated into the proposed resolutions. Mr. Karet informed Council of a letter submitted by the applicant as well as three conceptual plans which show very roughly what he intends to do with the property. Councilman Hays questioned if they had a site plan. informed Councilman Hays it is premature for him to plans developed as he has no idea how much property to work with. Mr. Karet have site he will have Councilman Hays feels they have to look at the issue of value to the City and taxpayers if they do this. If there is a commercial building built on the site and that increases taxes, that would be good for everybody. If we go ahead with this and nothing is built there, it increases the value of the property for resale. He questioned how the City will benefit. Mr. Karet addressed Councilman Hays' concerns. Rodney Jones, American Sock & Dewatering Inc., Port Orange, stated they would like to move their business into the Edgewater area. Mr. Jones commented on FEC being awarded half of Guava Drive and him being awarded the other half. He looked back in the records and found another part of Guava Drive that was not split, it was awarded all to the property owner. Mayor Hayman questioned where this property is located. Mr. Jones informed him it would be behind Lots 448 & 447 which would be just south of the drainage canal. City Attorney storey stated in her experience it is a standard practice that when a right-of-way is abandoned, it splits. She agreed to look at the particulars due to there may have been a circumstance, such as FEC deeding the right-of-way to the other property owner. Councilman Mitchum questioned where Mr. Jones got his information. He explained the property was probably either a transfer of deed or someone bought the property. Page -2- Council Regular Meeting October 21, 1996 ........ ...." Councilman Mitchum commented on property on the river sold to Higginbotham by the City of New Smyrna Beach. He would like to know how this was done. Mayor Hayman spoke about some experiences they have had such as with Coronado Paint Company and the benefit was immense from the give and take scenario. He commented on an incident where the Council was asked to do something which they did with the mistaken belief that they would have some sort of expeditious return on taxpayer investment. Mayor Hayman spoke about taxpayer dollars and resources. Councilman Hays would be willing to support the vacation of this property if he knew that this building was going to be built. He would like to see the people in the City benefit as well as Mr. Jones. Councilman Mitchum stated if Mr. Jones brings something back in a conceptual nature, then Council can act on that. Mr. Jones spoke about possibly purchasing the other portion of the property from FEC. He would like to research this further. Mayor Hayman stated he would like Mr. Jones to come back with a comprehensive proposal that does not require an inordinate amount of engineering and design fees. Mayor Hayman asked City Attorney Storey if it would be proper to entertain a motion for continuance of this until such time that Mr. Jones could return to Council with the answers to their questions. City Attorney Storey urged Mayor Hayman to allow the public to speak and then go through deliberations. Due to there being no one in the public wishing to speak, Mayor Hayman closed the public hearing. City Attorney Storey presented some alternatives to make sure Mr. Jones does what he says he wants to do. Mr. Karet feels they should be able to come to terms with Mr. Jones. Mayor Hayman spoke about the problems he has with Mr. Jones request. He feels they only have a vague idea of what Mr. Jones wants to do. Mr. Karet further elaborated on other alternatives. Mayor Hayman can't support this until he knows what Mr. Jones wants to do and presents more detail. He feels Mr. Jones should follow the model that was created in dealing with Coronado Paint Company. Councilman Hatfield made a motion to continue this request, second by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0. City Attorney Storey informed Council they would need to amend the motion to include a date certain. Councilman Hatfield amended the motion to continue this request until the November 18th meeting, second by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0. CONSENT AGENDA A. Renewal of Employee Assistance program contract with Act. .InQ . Councilman Hays moved to approve, second by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0. Page -3- Council Regular Meeting October 21, 1996 'W' ...,; OTHER BUSINESS A. Petition opposing making Evergreen Drive, between 18th and 19th streets, a through street Councilman Hays made a motion not to do the project, second by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0. B. Approval of 1996 Amendment to FOP Agreement Councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve, second by Councilman Mitchum. City Attorney storey stated the agreement was ratified by the FOP on Friday evening. She commented on a correction to the agreement. The motion CARRIED 5-0. C. Purchase of Police vehicles, using Florida Sheriff's Association Bid ~ One 1997 Ford E-250 utility Van 21 One 1997 Ford Ranger Pickup Truck ~ Three 1997 Ford Crown victoria Police Package cruisers for patrol Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve, second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0. D. Discussion - consideration of refuse collection/disposal bid specifications for City's trash removal City Manager McMahon presented the background information and explained the specifications have been gone over by key staff. City Attorney Storey presented additional background information. She briefly discussed insurance requirements. Councilman Hays stated he has looked at this and he has also looked at what the City employees have done to help clean up after the tornado. He feels that is dedication to the City itself. He is very happy with what we have now. He sees no reason to go out for bid. Councilwoman Martin agreed with Councilman Hays. She feels the City has good employees and she doesn't want to see anything taken away from them. Mayor Hayman applauded the efforts of the City employees after the tornado. What has motivated him to pursue this is looking at what other communities have done in looking at this. There is no question we are doing a good job with garbage and solid waste. He has questioned the true cost and whether it can be done better. Mayor Hayman commented on the level of service we have now and the protection of the city employees. Mayor Hayman would like to see Public Works come back with bid specifications. Councilman Hatfield made a motion to reject the proposal to consider going out for bid for refuse collection, second by Councilman Hays. Councilman Hatfield feels the current program is working and the City has good employees. Right now we have the best employees this City has ever had. At this time he is not ready to change. Councilman Hays commented on the work done by the City employees on a day-to-day basis. The motion CARRIED 4-1. Mayor Hayman voted NO. Page -4- Council Regular Meeting October 21, 1996 '-" ,..." GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE Judith Lichter, 826 Navigators Way, commented on privatization of garbage versus using your own. She feels council made a wise decision to stay with the City service. She feels council is not ready to even think in terms of bid. Bill Redman, BFI, commented on the services his company provides and local cities that have turned to privatization. He would like the opportunity to serve Edgewater if the City ever decides to privatize. Cliff Clark, 1818 Evergreen Drive, spoke on the efficiency of the 911 service. Bernie Wagman, 2330 Kumquat Drive, commented on the trash collection and bidding. He feels the City should look into going out for bid. Mr. Wagman spoke about the road construction project and pipe not being laid right. He feels Council needs to look into what is going on out there. Barricades are out there not lit up at night. There is no deterrent fencing around any of the culverts that have been dug. He witnessed children playing in the culverts. He went on to speak about flooding. He feels someone needs to seriously look at this. Mayor HaYman invited Mr. Wagman to stay after the meeting and talk with him and City Manager McMahon. City Manager McMahon informed Mr. Wagman the area he is talking about has not been accepted by the engineers yet. OFFICER REPORTS City Manager McMahon had nothing at this time. City Attorney Storey had nothing at this time. City Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time. Councilman Mitchum spoke about Hibiscus Drive cracking from Indian River Blvd. to 30th Street. He expects this road to be repaired. Mayor HaYman explained the sub base is soil cement. He expressed concern with the amount of cracks and the width of the cracks. He has been told by the soil cement people that that is a common thing to have happen to roads spec'd with a soil cement base. city Manager McMahon stated we have a testing company and he would like a thorough report on the cause and what corrective action can be taken. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to discuss, councilman Mitchum made a motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned 8:33 p.m. Minutes submitted by: Lisa Kruckmeyer Page -5- Council Regular Meeting October 21, 1996