05-20-1996 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 20, 1996
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Hayman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Jack Hayman
Councilman Danny Hatfield
Councilwoman Louise Martin
Councilman Michael Hays
Councilman David Mitchum
City Attorney Krista storey
City Manager George McMahon
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
Present
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Excused
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INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
There was a silent invocation and a pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Regular Meeting of May 6, 1996
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve the May 6, 1996 minutes,
second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY:
jother than public hearings}
Paul Jenkins, 2029 willow Oak Drive, spoke in opposition to the
proposed restoration permit fees.
Judith Lichter, 826 Navigators Way, spoke about Item 7C and when
this matter came before the LDRA. She commented on the intent at
one time to keep this area small. She feels Mr. Karet's
suggestions of changing some of the areas to light industry but
keeping those areas that abut single family homes as commercial
was well put. She feels something needs to be done with the two
incompatible uses and one zoning.
Donnie Williams, S. Atlantic Avenue, New Smyrna Beach, Manager of
the Florida Shores Business Warehouse, commented on the loss of
potential tenants because of the three employee rule. He spoke
about not having the jobs and industry to pay people. He can't
think of any logical reason for the three employee rule which
prevents employers from coming into Edgewater.
Myron Hammond, 2516 Hibiscus Drive, spoke about being cited for
working outside his shop. He spoke about things he has done to
bring his building up to code and clean it up. He feels the City
needs to start thinking about the taxpayers. He is starting to
wonder if Edgewater is a hospitality city.
Edward Clinton, 2210 Hibiscus Drive, spoke about being hit by
Code Enforcement for having too many vehicles parked on private
property and being told he can not work outside his building.
Ray Fisher, Fisher's Auction, Hibiscus, asked to be left alone so
he can make a living and to cut the business owners some slack.
He spoke about being located by the railroad tracks.
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Richard Iasimone, 2010 Hibiscus Drive, spoke on his business
being the oldest on Hibiscus Drive. He commented on the paving
done on Hibiscus. He commented on water coming on his property
and questioned why the drains weren't placed on the side of the
road where the railroad tracks are. He spoke about being
photographed by Code Enforcement.
Mr. Iasimone spoke about past Police Chiefs coming around and
introducing themselves. He feels the businesses in the City need
to be protected.
Mayor Hayman spoke about some of the businesses outgrowing our
codes and ordinances. He spoke about the City not meaning to be
hostile but the City needs to work collectively in a
collaborative mode to help the citizens help the City fix the
things that need to be fixed. He commented on being aware of an
economic dilemma in the City.
Tom Alcorn spoke about Edgewater being a major exporter and we
are exporting our children because there 1S no opportunity here
for them. He feels it is vitally important to work with the
community. He said everyone here has one goal which is results.
He spoke about the need for business in Edgewater.
Councilwoman Martin asked that Mr. Fong list the accomplishments
and endeavors made by the City and Economic Development Board to
recruit business and try to make the environment more business
friendly.
Philip Fong, Chairman, Economic Development Board, commented on
the accomplishments of the Economic Development Board. He
commented on land use changes on Guava and Hibiscus being an
issue. He feels it is important to work together and try to
resolve the problems.
Councilwoman Martin commented on the effort that has been made to
try to bring industry into the City.
John Moore, Edgewater, feels the City needs to take care of the
businesses that are already in Edgewater. He spoke about
problems with the three employee cap. He asked for a fair ear
from someone who is going to listen to some of the problems and
work with the businesses so they can stay in business. He
commented on funds received by bigger businesses from the Capital
Improvement Program. He feels the City needs to look at each and
every business rather than trying to restrict them and shut them
down.
vic Glidewell, Edgewater, spoke on the problems on Guava Drive.
He feels Hibiscus Drive is a perfectly good street to be used for
expanding businesses. He feels the three employee cap is
ridiculous and being ignored and needs to be changed. He does
not feel Guava Drive should be zoned industrial.
Mayor Hayman presented the reasons for the three employee cap.
He feels modifications need to be made.
Councilman Hays commented on speaking to Mr. Clinton regarding
parking. He feels we have issues that need to be addressed and
they should have a public hearing. These changes can not be made
tonight. We need to get a handle on the issues and look at the
land use to find out what changes can be made to accommodate this
and look at the parking problems. He made a recommendation to
have a workshop addressing the issues and so that everyone can be
heard.
Mayor Hayman asked the citizens to keep remarks as concise as
possible.
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Mayor Hayman supported Councilman Hays' recommendation to hold a
workshop. He itemized the issues of concern.
Barry Brumer, Attorney in Edgewater, commented on his main
practice being bankruptcy law and most of his clients coming from
Florida Shores.
Mr. Brumer commented on the new businesses coming into New Smyrna
Beach. He commented on the three employee cap. He feels ideas
could be thought of in order to make everyone happy.
Mr. Brumer would like the appearance of Edgewater improved which
may help attract businesses.
Bob Burell spoke about being written up by Code Enforcement. He
stated the building he owns can not be supported by only three
employees and has been vacant the past three or four years. His
taxes continue to go up and his building doesn't rent. He has
had three different opportunities to rent the building but
because of the three employee cap they chose not to.
John Moore, 2354 Fern Palm Drive, commented on section 713.06 of
the Code of Ordinances. He spoke about things he didn't know
until tonight. He would like to see a workshop on this matter.
He complained about the way Code Enforcement is handled. He
feels this can be worked out but he doesn't think it is going to
be worked out by writing citations or by people complaining.
Bob Richards, owner of Southern Instruments on Hibiscus Drive,
informed Council he was Chairman for the Industrial Development
Board about five or SlX years ago. It was decided at that time
that Edgewater could not afford an industrial park and that Guava
and Hibiscus would be Edgewater's industrial park. The three
employee cap was on then. We have operated in violation of it
for eleven years now. He feels they have to get together and
work it out.
Michael Dean, 2518 Hibiscus Drive, commented on obtaining
different costs on deposits and fees when he called as opposed to
when he came in to pay. He commented on wanting to purchase
property adjacent to him to make an outside storage area. Every
time he tries to start something, he gets his hand slapped
instead of being offered help to work something out.
Kenny Clinton, 1917 pine Tree Drive, spoke about when he was on
the City Council. He spoke about city Manager McMahon, Beverly
Johnson and Community Development Director Mr. Karet putting
businesses and homeowners down. He asked to call the dogs off
until this matter is settled.
Councilman Hays feels they need to be more user friendly and that
some of the requests being made are reasonable. He would like to
act on this and hold a workshop. Mayor Hayman would like to see
the workshop held before the second meeting in June.
Mayor Hayman asked City Manager McMahon to ask Mr. Karet to have
the contacts with Code Enforcement and the public be made a
warning. He is hearing it is a very antagonistic situation and a
lot of people are being acquainted for the first time that they
are not in compliance with a code or ordinance. He is
questioning what can be done if they don't do anything between
now and the workshop.
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City Manager McMahon stated the City Manager, Community
Development Director, the Code Enforcer, the Chief of Police and
police officers follow the exact policy and zoning requirements
of the City. They are here to follow the direction of the
elected officials. He explained the building code is required by
state law. The zoning code is a local ordinance that is passed
to administrate the comprehensive land planning and development
act of the state.
Councilman Hays explained his suggestion wasn't to ask the Code
Enforcement to not do her job. There is a need for that. He
spoke about a big complaint is being cited for a hood being up on
a car outside of the building. He doesn't think this is life
threatening and doesn't present a potential hazard as far as
public safety goes.
community Development Director Mark Karet explained with Council
direction, they can stand down in the Code Enforcement activities
on Hibiscus and Guava Drives in regards to the individuals who
are working outside. We can stand down in regards to those
individuals who are not in compliance with the parking. We do
have one pending issues that needs to be resolved which relates
to parking in the rights-of-way. He spoke about swales being
torn up on Hibiscus Drive and fixed by the contractor but the
City has been put on notice that he will no longer be doing that.
Councilman Hays explained he would like Code Enforcement stepped
down on the enforcement of activities on the business property
itself. He asked to lighten up on this until the Council has a
chance to hammer this out with the citizens. Mr. Karet stated if
that is consensus of the Council, he will do that.
City Manager McMahon spoke about parking on a public right-of-
way.
Jerry McDaniels, CM&G Welding, 1922 Hibiscus Drive, spoke about
right-of-way parking. He suggested Council use some common sense
and they will all get along better.
Councilman Hays made a motion to hold a workshop before the June
17th meeting to discuss the three employee cap, proposed changes
of land use, parking and outside activities and for Code
Enforcement to step back on enforcement of activities on business
property on Hibiscus and Guava Drive but not to ignore the public
rights-of-way, second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED
4-0.
Myron Hammond, 2516 Hibiscus Drive, questioned the citation he
received today and whether or not he will be affected. city
Manager McMahon stated he would think the citation would not be
followed through with as a result of Council action. Mr. Karet
explained up to this point all that has been issued are courtesy
notices which have no regulatory affect. We will not follow up
with actual notices of violation.
Councilman Hatfield asked anyone that has concerns to please put
it to the Council in writing so they have them before that
meeting. It is a lot easier to address concerns if they are in
front of them.
There was a ten-minute recess at this time.
COUNCIL REPORTS:
Mayor Hayman had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hatfield had nothing at this time.
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Councilwoman Martin had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hays had nothing at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS:
A. Res. 96-R-15 Establishing vehicle restoration permit fee and
permit renewal fee
Mayor Hayman presented the background and staff recommendation
for Res. 96-R-15.
City Manager McMahon presented further background information for
Res. 96-R-15.
Mayor Hayman read Res. 96-R-15. The recommended permit fee and
renewal fee is $15.
Councilman Hays is glad they finally have a closure on this.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve Res. 96-R-15, second
by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
CONSENT AGENDA:
A. Acceptance of results of Ernst & Young audit of revenues and
expenditures of Florida Dept. Of Environmental Protection Loan
No. 794020
B. Lease agreement on Minolta copier for Community Development
Department
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda,
second by Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Appointments to Parks and Recreation Board due to expiration
of terms of Shirley Pittman and Larry Ruggles, who request
reappointment
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to reappoint Shirley Pittman
and Larry Ruggles to the Parks & Recreation Board, second by
Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
B. Appointments to Land Development and Regulatory Agency due to
expiration of terms of Mary Agrusa and Ronald Hildenbrand. who
request reappointment
Councilman Hays made a motion to reappoint Mary Agrusa and Ronald
Hildenbrand to the Land Development and Regulatory Agency, second
by Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
C. Discussion of land use change on Hibiscus and Guava Drives
from commercial to industrial
This item was discussed under citizen comments regarding agenda
items only with a motion made by Councilman Hays, second by
Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
D. Funding options for development of 26-acre park site
City Manager McMahon commented on the reason for this coming to
Council.
Parks & Recreation Director Jack Corder made a presentation
regarding funding options and the expansion of some of their
programs. This would be a complex for everyone in the City. He
presented preliminary estimated costs.
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Councilman Hays would like this placed on the General Election
ballots due to a better turnout but it can only be placed on the
Primary Election ballots. He expressed disappointment that it
can not be placed on the General Election ballots.
City Clerk Wadsworth explained her conversation with Deanie Lowe
and the reason why it would be better to place this on the
Primary Election ballots.
It was the consensus of Council to send a letter to Deanie Lowe,
Supervisor of Elections, requesting this be placed on the ballot
for the General Election for reasons stated.
City Manager McMahon agreed to get a letter out early tomorrow
but suggested Council carefully consider the wording on the
ballot and the cost of providing the funds for this. The Council
is going to be looking at the equivalent of 1 - ~ mills for $3
million. He suggested Council have discussion over the period of
the summer at a minimum of four different meetings so the public
is fully aware of what is being done.
city Attorney Storey commented on legal requirements regarding
the wording and language.
There was a discussion regarding a referendum being binding and
the certified millage rate on a bond issue.
Mr. Corder completed his presentation speaking about the
shuffleboard facility being moved to the 26-acres.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE:
Mayor Hayman read a letter from the Florida House of
Representatives regarding Vehicle Hit and Run FHB-173.
Judith Lichter, 826 Navigators Way, feels a very compelling
reason why a second primary should not be used for the date of
such an important referendum because there may not be a second
primary. She questioned how long it would take to payoff the
possible construction of the 26 acres by raising the millage rate
1.5 mills. City Manager McMahon informed her this would be for
fifteen years. She then questioned if they need the whole thing
at one time. City Manager McMahon commented on ways the cost can
be reduced.
Dominick Fazzone, 302 Paradise Lane, expressed support for the
26-acre park project.
Paul Jenkins, 2029 willow Oak Drive, commented on Code
Enforcement and codes are costing a lot of small businesses in
this town from not even opening. It is not just restricting the
businesses that are here. We have this Economic Development Plan
that helps out on taxes and impact fees for ten employees or more
but nothing helps out the guy who has three or four.
OFFICER REPORTS:
City Attorney Storey informed the Council of correspondence from
the Florida League of cities regarding legislation that was
passed regarding the property appraiser presumption of
correctness. The League is requesting a resolution opposing that
and urging the Governor to veto.
Mayor Hayman commented on the letter and resolution he received.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve Resolution 96-R-16,
second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
City Manager McMahon had nothing at this time.
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City Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business to discuss, councilman Hatfield
made a motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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