03-04-1996 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 4, 1996
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Jack Hayman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00
p.m. in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Jack HaYman
Councilman Danny Hatfield
Councilwoman Louise Martin
Councilman Michael Hays
Councilman David Mitchum
City Attorney Krista storey
City Manager George McMahon
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The invocation was delivered by Reverend Campagnone, retired
Roman Catholic priest. There was a pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
PROCLAMATIONS
A. Excellence Award to Boston Whaler
Mayor HaYman read and presented a plaque to Doug Fonte, President
of Boston Whaler.
Mr. Fonte thanked the City.
B. Mike Poniatowski and Advanced Medical and Pharmaceutical for
Donations to Fire/Rescue for Upgrade to Advanced Life Support
Services
Mayor Hayman informed the public of the city's upgrade to provide
Advanced Life Support to the citizens of Edgewater.
Mayor Hayman read and presented a proclamation to Mike
Poniatowski.
Mike Poniatowski thanked the City and congratulated them on the
milestone of achieving advanced life support.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Regular Meeting of February 5. 1996
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve the February 5, 1996
minutes, second by Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Hayman asked that Item 8A be moved up on the agenda.
A. Discussions and updates with Volusia County Charter Review
Commission Chairman and Committee Chairmen
Mayor Hayman asked Bill Scovell to present some remarks on the
inception of the Committee and what the County Council charged
him with. He questioned the process of how the members were
selected for the Committee.
Bill Scovell, Charter Review commission, explained how they came
into being and what the Committee has the right to do. He
explained they are divided into four basic committees and he has
the chairpersons with him from those committees.
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Mayor Hayman explained the Council would like to focus on 1) the
topic of the water partnership, 2) the feelings on the Growth
Management Commission and 3) the Beach Trust Commission.
Bob Lloyd, Chairman, Growth Management and Environmental
Committee, agreed to answer any questions of Council.
Mayor Hayman asked him to comment on growth management and the
water issue and where his Committee stands.
Mr. Scovell explained there have been no decisions made by the
full Charter Review Commission. Tonight the Council may get from
Mr. Lloyd and the other members what recommendation may be forth
coming from the Committees. He asked that Council forward any
comments that they may have in writing to the Charter Review
Commission so it can be presented to the whole group.
Mr. Lloyd commented on the Growth Management Commission and where
his Committee stands with matters pertaining to the Commission.
Mr. Lloyd spoke about the water issue.
Councilman Hays expressed concerns about not having a resident
from the City of Edgewater sitting on any of the committees.
Councilman Hays expressed concerns regarding postering inside the
County for control of the natural resources of the County. He
would not support anything in the Charter amendment that would
take authority away from the municipalities and the management of
their own natural resources. He asked Mr. Lloyd's opinion
regarding this matter.
Mr. Scovell stated they have no marching orders from anyone.
They are independent people doing a job they were asked to do.
Mr. Lloyd presented his opinion regarding the proposed Charter
change and cities having home rule powers. Whatever happens with
the Volusian Aquifer Alliance, he feels it is important that we
do something to protect the aquifer.
Councilman Hays expressed concern with the County wanting to get
into the utility service business. Mr. Lloyd explained that has
not been proposed. Councilman Hays stated that is what we see
happening in Volusia County. Mr. Lloyd informed Councilman Hays
that issue has not been brought up.
Mr. Lloyd invited Council to attend their meetings.
Councilman Hays spoke about looking at the EVAC service in
Volusia County. He explained municipalities are looking at
getting into the ambulance service business as an enterprise
fund. He asked if this Commission would support that. Mr. Lloyd
informed Councilman Hays the issue has been brought up but it has
not made very much headway. Councilman Hays would like this to
be seriously considered. Mr. Lloyd agreed to pass on Councilman
Hays' concerns.
Mr. Lloyd again invited the Council to attend their Committee
meetings if they have any matters they would like addressed.
Councilman Mitchum thanked Mr. Lloyd for coming. He referred to
the water issue. He questioned the participation of the
Committee being merely out of protection for our future water
resources. He spoke about getting no cooperation at all from the
County regarding selling water.
Councilman Mitchum stated Edgewater is sitting on two new
facilities and has a big stake in this area. Councilman Mitchum
agreed with Mr. Lloyd that this shouldn't become a political
issue. Mr. Lloyd elaborated on Councilman Mitchum's concerns
pertaining to the water issue.
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city Manager McMahon commented on difficulties the Volusia
Aquifer Alliance has had regarding southern state utilities.
Mayor Hayman spoke about the economic growth of Edgewater. He
feels home rule is the essential ingredient in the affiliation
with the Water Cooperative.
Mayor Hayman encouraged Mr. Lloyd and his colleagues to look
closely at the effect any Charter question might have on the
citizens and their investments in capital projects and
infrastructure and comprehensive plans and goals for the long
range.
Mr. Lloyd commented on the growth in communities that surround
Edgewater.
Mayor Hayman feels there is a need for County legislative action.
He expressed his concerns regarding the water issues.
Councilman Hays feels reuse water is very important. It recharges
the aquifer. He commented on stormwater management.
Mayor Hayman explained why he feels growth management is so
important.
Mr. Lloyd spoke about aquifer management being unique.
Mayor Hayman informed Mr. Scovell they would like to talk about
the Beach Trust Commission.
Doug Daniels, Chairman, Beach Trust Commission, stated the Beach
Committee and Charter Review have taken a number of preliminary
votes and one of the preliminary votes is to take the Beach Trust
out of the Charter. He commented on the management
recommendation.
Mr. Daniels spoke about Daytona Beach needing help. He spoke
about the erosion problems in Bethune Beach. He spoke about the
environmental protection problems such as the turtles and cars
parking on the beach.
Mr. Daniels spoke about the Beach Trust not really addressing any
of the matters that need to be addressed. He feels the reason
for this is the County Council doesn't really trust it and most
of the cities don't support it. Most of the cities north of New
Smyrna feel the Beach Trust should be done away with.
Mr. Daniels feels the cities would be better off without any
advisory board than have the Beach Trust, but they would be
better off to have an advisory board that the County Council has
confidence in.
Mr. Daniels spoke about a problem being weighted voting. He
explained when the Beach Trust was established, it was assumed
that tolls were going to cover the cost to run the beach.
Mayor Hayman asked if the issue of beach management is going to
be assigned to the Port Authority. Mr. Daniels explained they
do have a management recommendation on that but it is not
replacing the Beach Trust with a Port Authority.
Mr. Daniels explained the Port Authority having taxing power.
They are more oriented toward the Halifax and Indian Rivers inlet
and would not be interested in taking on the beach themselves.
Mayor Hayman questioned if an idea or opinion was formed
regarding the expansion of the taxing district to incorporate all
sixteen municipal governments and County government. Mr. Daniels
explained if you do that, you get away from the east side funding
and east side economic development projects.
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Mr. Scovell introduced the other members he brought with him.
He encouraged the Council to communicate with him if they have
concerns.
There was a five-minute recess at this time.
Item 8B was moved up on the agenda.
B. Request of Hi Tops Lounge to extend operating hours during
Bike Week March 4-10. 1996
Mayor Hayman presented the background for this request.
city Attorney Storey explained a form memo would be sent out
becoming effective March 6th from the Police Department allowing
all establishments to stay open until 3 a.m.
Elizabeth Fenical, Owner, Hi Tops Lounge, stated she is
requesting to stay open until 3 a.m.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve starting March 6th,
second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY
(Other than public hearings)
There were no citizen comments at this time.
Police Chief Schumaker asked that notification be placed in the
newspapers regarding the extension of hours to 3 a.m.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Mayor Hayman had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hatfield had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Martin had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hays commented on an article in the newspaper
regarding five people that were interviewed asking what they
would do to improve Edgewater. The general consensus was to
improve the Parks and Recreation facilities inside the City. He
feels they need to start thinking about this for the upcoming
budget.
Councilman Mitchum had nothing at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCES. AND RESOLUTIONS
A. First reading Ord. 96-0-01 Establishing regulations for
outside Storage of Vehicles, Equipment and Materials
Mayor Hayman presented the background and read Ord. 96-0-01.
City Attorney Storey expressed concerns with the issue of
providing staff guidelines for the termination of progress.
Councilman Mitchum expressed concern with the fact of how do you
determine significant progress. He questioned if something can
be over regulated. Maybe the City needs a process for renewing
permits and not determining whether significant process has been
made or not.
city Manager McMahon explained it is easy to observe whether
there is any apparent work done on the car.
Councilman Mitchum feels they would be creating an enforcement
nightmare.
Councilman Hays feels maybe they need to find a reasonable
deadline for time of completion.
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Councilman Mitchum feels the permit process is fine and getting a
permit and having it renewed is fine, but the criteria for that
should be are you in compliance with the ordinance.
Councilman Mitchum commented on Item 1101.01A of the proposed
ordinance. He feels the permit needs to address the vehicles
that are eyesores. He spoke not being able to see the car he
restores unless you are invited in to see it.
Councilman Mitchum agrees with the permit process.
opposed to permitting the vehicle in his garage.
fair to everybody.
He is not
He wants to be
There was a discussion regarding adding verbiage to Item 1101.01A
regarding his concerns.
Councilman Mitchum would like to see something regarding if an
eyesore is not visible, you don't have to have permitting
requirements.
Councilman Mitchum commented on the issue of one owner vehicles
retaining a lot of value by having the one owner title. If you
do that, you have to be a licensed dealer to hold an open title
on a vehicle.
Mayor Hayman commented on industrial and commercial uses. He
spoke about being opposed to screened areas in industrial and
commercial.
Mr. Karet explained the current zoning ordinance for the
industrial districts does require outside storage areas to be
screened.
Mayor Hayman doesn't feel they need to have screened areas as a
requirement in the proposed ordinance because of the hardships it
would cause on the businesses.
There was further discussion regarding requiring screened areas.
Councilman Hays feels they would be making a mistake by
eliminating this because of the argument of the residential
areas. If you don't screen these areas, you are presenting an
attractive nuisance for kids in the area.
Councilman Hays questioned if the industrial property abuts a
residential area, you have to, and if it doesn't, you don't have
to. He feels his suggestion should be considered. He feels they
need to go back to patrol as an enforcement aspect instead of on
a complaint basis.
City Attorney storey informed Councilman Hays they have already
gone back to patrol.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve Ord. 96-0-01 as per the
changes that were discussed, second by Councilwoman Martin.
Councilman Hatfield asked Councilman Mitchum if he wanted a time
certain for renewal of the permit. Councilman Mitchum explained
it is one year per renewal. It is one year and then you renew it
with a five year cap.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Res. 95-R-04 Expressin9 Support for Halifax and Indian River
Task Force's Halifax and Indian River Sprin9 Cleanin9 Day April
27, 1996
Mayor Hayman read Res. 95-R-04.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve Res. 95-R-04, second
by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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C. Res. 96-R-05 Supporting Volusia County Beach Trust Commission
and opposing any Effort to Dissolve said Commission
Mayor Hayman read Res. 96-R-05.
Councilman Hays stated by no means can he support the County
taking control of the beaches.
Councilman Hatfield agreed with Councilman Hays. He is not sure
he supports the Commission 100%. He feels there needs to be some
changes. He is not saying he would do away with the Beach Trust
Commission but he feels there needs to be some revamping.
Councilwoman Martin spoke in opposition of Res. 96-R-05.
Councilman Hatfield moved to table Res. 96-R-05, second by
Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Retaining Dean, Ringers, Morgan and Lawton re: Mary Louise
McDonald v. city of Edgewater
B. Retaining Foley & Lardner re: S & E Contractors, Inc. v.
City of Edgewater
Councilman Hays moved to approve the consent agenda, second by
Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. ~is~ussion.and updates with Volusia County Charter Review
CommlSSlon Chalrman and Committee Chairmen
This item was discussed earlier on the agenda.
B. Request of Hi Tops Lounge to extend operating hours during
Bike Week March 4-10, 1996
This item was discussed earlier on the agenda.
C. Amendment to Hartman and Associates, Inc. Contract for
engineering services related to Wastewater Treatment plant -
reclaimed water system improvements and declare project impact
fee eligible
utilities Director Terry Wadsworth made a presentation regarding
the need for his request.
Councilman Mitchum made a motion to approve, second by Councilman
Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
D. Interlocal Agreement - Unified Building Code
community Development Director Mark Karet made a presentation
regarding an interlocal agreement which would create a Unified
Building Code.
Mayor Hayman has no problem with this because it will be the same
as the Port Orange version. He feels it is wise to go with
theirs.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve, second by Councilman
Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
E. Agreement with Department of community Affairs re: funding
for comprehensive Plan Evaluation and Appraisal Report
Mr. Karet presented the background on the need for an agreement
with the Department of Community Affairs due to a State
requirement in order to prepare an evaluation appraisal report
for the Comprehensive Plan.
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Councilman Hays spoke about a similar situation a few years ago
where they sought out some temporaries to assist with this.
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve, second by
Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
F. Submittal at meeting of list of March 16 auction items and
declarin9 items surplus
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve, second by
Councilwoman Martin.
Councilman Mitchum questioned if the bicycles are auctioned off
every year. Chief Schumaker informed him they usually give them
to non profit organizations for Christmas but this year there
were no requests for bicycles.
There was further discussion regarding from now on the bicycles
should be given to organizations.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
Public Works Director Hugh Williams informed the Council the list
tends to grow before the auction and informed Council he would
report back at the next meeting with anything else that comes in.
G. city Manager's report and proposal to provide water and sewer
service to Southeast Volusia County
City Manager McMahon presented a report regarding providing water
and sewer service to Southeast Volusia County.
City Manager McMahon feels this is an advantage for the city
residents as well as Southeast Volusia because if we can add
customers, obviously that is going to reduce our fixed cost.
city Manager McMahon asked Council for permission to enter into
negotiations with Oak Hill to provide them advanced wastewater
treatment to our plant and to discuss with them the best type of
transmission line and pumping station that will be needed.
City Manager McMahon spoke about some discrepancies in a letter
from the County. He recommended Council not release any water
without a written agreement with the County and to authorize him
to enter into negotiations with Oak Hill.
There was a discussion regarding how long the City has been
trying to work with the County Council and County staff.
Councilman Hays spoke about a comment made that if the City gets
into an agreement with Oak Hill, it might degrade the water
quality in the Indian River. He feels there is a big
misunderstanding.
Councilman Hays feels maybe they need to directly contact the
County Council members because apparently there is a problem
finding a deal on staff level when we are dealing with County
staff. City Manager McMahon informed Councilman Hays he has
already sent letters to the County Council.
Mayor Hayman spoke about Oak Hill only having around fifty
households that would be connected to any sewer system. The
majority of the customers lie in the unincorporated area. He
supports City Manager McMahon's decision with regard to cutting
off the County water with one exception being if there is a bona
fide emergency, he would not turn his back on them. City Manager
McMahon had no problem doing that. He further discussed not
understanding why the County isn't cooperating with the City.
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Mr. Wadsworth informed the Council he spoke with the Oak Hill
City Attorney and said he would recommend to the Oak Hill City
Council to postpone acting on the interlocal until we can sit
down and meet with them to discuss it. A meeting should be
scheduled in the next few days.
Mr. Wadsworth spoke about the plant not being designed with extra
capacity. He informed Council that Mr. Hal Schmidt, Hartman &
Associates, was available to speak about where the additional
flow capacity at the plant is coming from.
Councilman Mitchum expressed concern about the actual capacity of
the sewer plant and if the City is equipped to handle 7,000
additional customers along with the build out of Edgewater or are
we going to have to look at expanding the sewer plant. He is not
opposed to it if the revenue source is there. Mr. Wadsworth
elaborated on Councilman Hays' concern.
Hal Schmidt, Hartman & Associates, gave a report on the design of
the wastewater plant and the additional flow capacity.
Mayor Hayman clarified that they are being asked to approve
beginning a study to determine if the City will have the
necessary customers to put on line. City Manager McMahon
informed Mayor Hayman it is not necessary at this time but it
would be necessary in the future to add customers.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve the recommendation of
City Manager McMahon with the exception of a declared emergency,
second by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
H. Discussion of capital improvement needs
Mr. Karet commented on the Capital Improvements Element which
includes the project list for 1990-1995. He spoke about the
projects that have and have not been completed.
Mayor Hayman spoke about the item pertaining to adding two lanes
to u.S. #1. DOT came to the MPO and said they couldn't add
additional lanes to u.S. #1 and that it was infeasible and not to
plan on it. Mr. Karet explained when they go through the
evaluation appraisal report that will have to be addressed. DOT
will be doing a quarter corridor study which will identify
alternatives for managing traffic on u.S. #1.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Mary Kresin, 1203 Regent Street, the problems she has had to deal
with where she lives. She spoke about what a nuisance the ducks
are to her. She spoke about her neighbor feeding the ducks in
front of her house.
City Attorney Storey stated she is not aware that they have any
ordinance on the books that prohibits feeding ducks in any
particular area of the City. For every person that doesn't like
ducks, there is someone that does.
Councilman Hays suggested if it takes a bit of stepping up on the
Animal Control Officer's part to trap these ducks if they come on
her property, fine. He doesn't feel feeding wild animals can be
enforced.
Ms. Kresin feels the City owes her $40 because
fence around her house to keep the ducks out.
an owl thinking that might keep the ducks out.
money to be wasting.
she purchased wire
She also purchased
She doesn't have
Mayor Hayman feels the ducks are a nuisance and a health hazard.
He feels they should ask Code Enforcement and Animal Control to
go out there and begin trapping and disposing of those critters.
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City Manager McMahon stated he has no responsible way to get rid
of the ducks.
Ms. Crescent spoke about the hard time she has been having with
her neighbor.
Mayor Hayman stated nobody is willing to take the ducks if they
are trapped. We need to find someone that likes muscovy ducks.
Mayor Hayman asked Ms. Crescent for a couple of days so they
could try to corne up with a solution. He informed her she would
be contacted.
Ben Vazquez, 2807 Needle Palm Drive, asked why he couldn't speak
during an earlier public hearing. He was informed it was only a
first reading, not a public hearing.
Mr. Vazquez agrees with Ord. 96-0-01 except having to have a
permit to work on a car on your own property. He doesn't feel
the City has the authority to enter onto any private property.
Mr. Vazquez spoke in opposition of the retention ponds. He feels
the ponds are deliberately being dug out for the purpose of
closing off the streets. He spoke about the streets in Florida
Shores being platted.
Mr. Vazquez feels the Council is violating the law. He feels
Florida Shores is a disaster.
Susan Cook, President, Indian Harbor Estates Homeowners
Association, spoke about the water situation. She questioned how
much Edgewater customers pay now for water and if that is what
would be offered to people in Southeast Volusia.
city Manager McMahon stated the rate of $4.20 per thousand
gallons has been offered. Our customers pay less than that in
the City itself due to having to pay impact fees. He informed
her of why they can not serve anyone past Ariel Road.
Mr. Wadsworth commented on the cost actually being cheaper to the
proposed customers outside the City than what the City residents
pay on an average of 4,000 gallons per household.
Ms. Cook stated they are planning on having the County Council
and Mr. Haduck speak to their groups. She asked the Council to
consider joining them.
Mayor Hayman read a letter to Chief Schumaker from James Sowers,
2831 Travelers Palm Drive.
Mayor Hayman read a letter to him from Karen Hall of wildwood
Subdivision.
Mayor Hayman stated there would be a Special Meeting on March 6,
1996 at 5 p.m.
OFFICER REPORTS
City Attorney
City Attorney Storey informed Council they would hold the Special
Meeting in the Community Center and proceed to the Conference
Room.
City Attorney Storey informed Council of the matter with the UTE
being discussed in court on Wednesday at 2:30 p.m.
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city Manager McMahon stated they have been using Mike Rocca from
Hartman to do the rate study and he would like to continue using
him.
It was the consensus of the Council to continue using Mr. Rocca.
City Clerk
City Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time.
A. Parks & Recreation Director's verbal report on Christmas
House (Tour of Home)
Parks & Recreation Director Jack Corder made a presentation on
the cost and profit made on the Christmas House.
Councilwoman Martin
Councilwoman Martin spoke about changing the speed limit from 25
to 30 m.p.h. on Riverside Drive with a six month trial basis.
It was the consensus of the Council to change the speed limit to
30 m.p.h. with a six month trial basis.
Councilman Mitchum
Councilman Mitchum is upset about the outcome of Maglev. Mayol"
Hayman informed Council the state has not withdrawn the funds
they agreed to give Maglev.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman Hays moved
to adjourn, second by Councilman Mitchum. The meeting adjourned
at 10:37 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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