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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
SPECIAL MEETING
February 24, 1992
MINUTES
Mayor Wessler called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the
community Center for discussion and action on the following:
ROLL CALL
Mayor Tanya Wessler
Councilman Kirk Jones
Councilperson Louise Martin
Councilperson NoraJane Gillespie
Councilman Michael Hays
City Attorney Krista storey
city Manager George McMahon
city Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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Public hearinq on transmittal of Comprehensive Plan Amendments
pursuant to stipulated Settlement Aqreement with Department of
community Affairs with first readinq of Ordinance 92-0-03
George Ewing, 2923 Royal Palm Drive, suggested the date in Policy
3.5 be changed to 1995 and the wording be changed from Florida
Shores to the city of Edgewater. Mr. Ewing explained his
reasoning for his suggestions.
Councilman Hays stated a mechanism is already in place. He
stated if you wanted to change it, you could just say at
completion. The whole intent is to do away with the septic
tanks. Has no problem with rewording it.
Mayor Wessler asked Mr. Karet if there is any problem with
changing the language. Councilperson Gillespie stated she knows
there is not because she spoke to DCA today. Mr. Karet stated
this language was included in response to specific comments made
by DCA in regards to Florida Shores. In concept, DCA would
probably have no problem with the City making the language more
stringent, but his recommendation would be to adopt what the City
agreed to on the settlement agreement and later look at any
policy changes.
Councilman Hays stated his problem with sticking to 1993 is he
would not want to deny a builder or someone that wants to build
the right to do that because of the language in this.
Mr. Karet stated DCA wants us to put this system in with all do
speed or stop issuing septic tank permits.
Councilman Hays questioned if the DCA could live with a mandatory
hookup after a reasonable period of time that the service is
available.
City Attorney Storey reminded the Council that they did enter
into a settlement agreement with DCA. The language is language
that was attached to that settlement agreement.
councilperson Gillespie explained her conversation with Kathy
Kendell from DCA.
Councilperson Gillespie moved to remove Florida Shores and insert
within the City, seconded by Councilperson Martin.
Mayor Wessler asked City Attorney Storey if she thought this was
going to hurt anything. City Attorney Storey stated if you
change something you run the risk of a full scale review.
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Mr. Karet stated what concerns him is we have ordinance policies
that do allow septic tanks under certain circumstances.
councilman Jones commented that he is for eliminating septic
tanks but he doesn't want to get in a bind.
Mayor Wessler asked Mr. Karet if changed to Edgewater and we
annex property to the South or to the west and someone has a 25
acre lot and wants to build a home would he be required to hook
up to sewer. Mr. Karet stated any projects in the city after
1993 would be required to have sewer connections.
Mr. Karet recommends sending it as is. However, if you want to
change the wording to Edgewater he suggested a lot size be
picked.
Mayor Wessler asked Mr Karet his recommendation on a lot size.
Mr. Karet suggested under 2 1'2 acres would be general.
Councilman Hays commented if we inserted all new and existing
residential development under 2 1/2 acres that would take care of
the problem.
Councilperson Gillespie amended the motion to that affect.
councilperson Martin amended her second.
Mr. Ewing stated if you send it in and make it strict and then
you have to change it, you are going to have to go through all of
this again. If you send it the proper way you would be better
off. The whole purpose of sewers in Edgewater is to stop
polluting the river.
Mayor Wessler asked Councilperson Gillespie to restate her
motion. councilperson Gillespie moved to remove in Florida
Shores where it appears in Policy 3.5, Page 6, in both instances
and insert within the City, lots under 2 1/2 acres, seconded by
Councilperson Martin. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Councilperson Gillespie asked Mr. Karet if we have to change on
Page 5 where it says 1991, now that the construction is going to
begin in 1992. Mr. Karet stated he doesn't think DCA would have
any objection with that. Mayor Wessler stated to change it to
1992.
Councilperson Gillespie asked Mr. Karet if the maps were the same
as sent with the original. Mr. Karet stated the existing land
use and the future land use map are entirely changed. They were
included strictly for information.
Councilperson Gillespie asked that Mark be permitted to update
those maps and send them up for informational purposes to DCA
showing the work that has been done.
Mayor Wessler stated send them what they asked for and then after
approved, we will send updates.
Mayor Wessler asked if anyone had a problem with Mark updating
the maps and send them to DCA. Mayor Wessler told Mark to do it.
Mayor Wessler read Ordinance 92-0-03. Councilman Jones made a
motion to adopt Ordinance 92-0-03 as amended, seconded by
Councilperson Gillespie. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Ms. Storey stated the Ordinance wasn't being amended just the
attachments.
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Resolution 92-R-04 Tentative award of contract for construction
of Advanced Wastewater Treatment Plant and Effluent Reuse
Facility to Milmir Construction, Inc. at $8,290,000 and
authorizinq Mayor and City Manaqer to execute contracts
Councilman Jones made a motion to accept the bid, seconded by
Councilman Hays.
Councilperson Gillespie asked to hear from Mr. Wadsworth.
Terry Wadsworth, Director of utilities, gave his recommendation
to adopt Resolution 92-R-04.
councilperson Gillespie stated on Page 005 under - 2, the Dyer,
Riddle, Mills, & Precourt address appears for Jacksonville. She
asked if there was a particular reason. Mr. Wadsworth stated
that office handles the design of the Wastewater Treatment Plant.
Councilperson Gillespie asked if the request has been finished
for inclusion on the priority list for the 1993 loans. Mr.
Wadsworth stated this is going to be done on Thursday. Mr.
Castle, Mr. Ferland and Mr. Wadsworth are meeting to complete
what has already been started on that.
Councilperson Martin asked if based bid meant rock bottom. Mr.
Wadsworth replied subject to unit prices that they may encounter
in case something is not exactly prescribed. There is an
allowance in the bid but hopefully it won't exceed that.
Councilperson Gillespie stated her concerns over the contract
revisions on the wells if the design had been proper and the
company had known then they wouldn't have had to go through that.
If they come in with a problem or revision is their bond going to
cover the cost. Mr. Wadsworth stated that depends on the nature
of the problem.
Councilman Hays mentioned there were going to be some jobs for
local people. He asked how many people they might be looking
for. Mr. Wadsworth stated they anticipated up to 12.
Upon roll call vote, the motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Wessler read Resolution 92-R-04 after the fact.
Authorization of Pomerroy Appraisal Associates of Florida, Inc.
to appraise Gran Central (FEC) property located in Planned
Industrial Development zone at cost of $2,000
Councilperson Gillespie made a motion to deny request. No
second. Motion dies for lack of second.
Councilman Hays moved to approve it if the funds that were
budgeted for the brochures were used to finance this, seconded by
Councilman Jones. Motion CARRIED 4-1. Councilperson Gillespie
voted NO.
Purchase one new Ford Crown victoria Police unit from Don Reid
for $13,500 and two used vehicles, 1987 and 1989 Ford Crown
victorias, from Town of pierson for $11,995, for total cost of
$25,495
Councilman Hays moved to approve, seconded by Councilperson
Gillespie. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
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Request of Jan & Lib's Hi Tops Lounqe, 319 N. Ridqewood Avenue,
to extend bar hours until 3:00 a.m. Februarv 26th throuqh March
8th
City Attorney storey suggested the owner of Hi Tops Lounge is
present and should be heard prior to making a decision. City
Attorney storey stated the Ordinance does provide the Council
with an opportunity to extend hours. The Ordinance provides that
you are able to do that upon special holidays but the ordinance
does not specifically define special holidays. That would be
something within the discretion of the Council.
Elizabeth Vachon, 319 N. Ridgewood Avenue, stated her reasoning
for staying open is to make more money.
councilperson Gillespie stated Bike Week is not a holiday. She
stated she wouldn't mind giving an extension for one day but has
a problem with giving them time frame they are asking for.
Monty McMullen, Edgewater Landing, stated that last year
motorcycles ran up and down all night long. He stated he does
not think it is going to be a problem.
councilperson Gillespie stated perhaps it would be fairer if we
amend it from the 3rd to the 8th. Mayor Wessler stated then you
are changing her request to suit other bar owners who have not
even come forward.
Mayor Wessler stated the fairest way to do it would be to address
her request first.
Chief Schumaker discussed difficulty enforcing other ordinances
dealing with closing hours. He understands the need for the
businesses in the city to make money, but he does not recommend
it. He went on to say that the reason for the bars staying open
in the Daytona area is because it was a controlled atmosphere to
keep the college students in an area where they could be policed
by the patrons as well as the bar people themselves.
Chairman Hays asked if one hour makes that much difference. Ms.
Vachon stated yes it does.
Councilman Kirk Jones feels there should be a policy where any
establishment at this particular time be given this opportunity.
Mayor Wessler stated give all establishments in Edgewater the
same from the 26th to the 8th.
Councilperson Gillespie made a motion to give this option to all
bars in the City limits if they so request.
Councilperson Gillespie withdrew her motion.
Mayor Wessler stated any alcoholic establishment be allowed to
stay open between the dates of February 26th - March 8th, 1992
only in the City of Edgewater until 3:00 a.m.
Mayor Wessler discussed the serving of alcohol but no sale of
closed containers to go out of the establishment after 2:00 a.m.
City Attorney Storey stated they can extend the hours for all
taverns and bars within the City to stay open until 3:00 a.m.
February 26th - March 9th, 1992 or you can grant the request
presented by Hi Tops.
councilperson Gillespie motioned for Option 1 as stated by City
Attorney Storey, seconded by Councilman Hays. Motion CARRIED 3-
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Aqreement with Michael J. Giorqio for provision of inspection
services for Florida Shores infrastructure improvements
Councilperson Gillespie asked if the gentleman was there. city
Engineer Gates Castle stated he had a class.
Mr. Castle gave the background of Michael J. Giorgio at this
time.
councilperson Gillespie moved to hire as stated, seconded by
Councilman Hays. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Wessler asked City Attorney storey if she could ask
Council's feelings on the Growth Management Commission.
Councilperson Gillespie stated it is just another layer of
beauracracy and that is all it ever was.
Mayor Wessler stated if Council has no objections that tomorrow
she would express the Council feeling on the Growth Management
Commission.
Mayor Wessler asked Mr. Giorno if he came to visit for a specific
reason. He stated just to say hello. He stated he wanted to
talk to them to see if they had any problems with the County.
Mayor Wessler spoke about the 26 acre park site that maybe the
County could get involved with us and save some money. Mr.
Giorno stated they are doing a lot of interlocal agreements with
different cities.
Councilman Jones explained that the City is planning to take on a
summer program and he asked if the County could help with the
program.
Mr. Giorno stated he would check and get a letter back on this.
Councilman Hays stated he was glad to see Phil there. He stated
what he is going to say is not intended to criticize him. He
stated John Massey owns some property that they are developing,
adjacent to wildwood Subdivision. He stated they have a gravity
sewer system in place in the Wildwood Subdivision at this time
but he can't see why that wasn't turned into part of our service
area. He stated there are areas that are immediately adjacent to
boundaries of the City which are going to become part of the City
of Edgewater as we grow. He stated now they are inheriting
another problem. He asked for Mr. Giorno's help to work more
with our Staff so that we don't, on a County level, develop
problems.
Mayor Wessler told Mr. Giorno to keep an eye out for our
interlocal agreement because some of the things that apparently
went on in the discussion he didn't seem to want to approve.
When we looked at your interlocal agreement with Holly Hill it
was pretty much exactly what we wanted except with our surcharge
we are asking for.
CITIZENS COMMENTS
George Ewing, 2932 Royal Palm Drive, stated Clay Henderson is
very unhappy with putting a shopping center out by 1-95 and he
would like this Council and County Council to consider the City
of Edgewater putting a shopping center out by 1-95. He stated we
are going to have all of the facilities there. He also stated
the County Council gives all their money to Ormond Beach and
Daytona Beach and Port Orange, why don't they throw a little
money our way.
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Dominick Fazzone, 302 Paradise Lane, stated all the cities along
the river are objecting to the bridges. He asked if the County
Council has considered putting pressure on the DOT to include
Edgewater when they study for the future for a bridge from SR
442.
ADJOURNMENT
Councilperson Gillespie made a motion to adjourn, seconded by
Councilman Jones. The meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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