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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
KARCH 17, 1997
7:00 P.M.
COHHUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Hayman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Jack Hayman
Councilman Danny Hatfield
Councilwoman Louise Martin
Councilman Michael Hays
Councilman David Mitchum
City Attorney Krista storey
City Manager George McMahon
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
Present
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Excused
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Arrived at 7:07 p.m.
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INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Hayman delivered the invocation. There was a pledge of
allegiance to the Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A. Special meeting of February 24, 1997
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve the February 24, 1997
minutes, second by Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
CITIZEN COHHENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY
(Other than public hearings)
Gail Wells, 2503 Woodland Drive, spoke on beautifying Edgewater.
One of her main concerns is Ordinance 96-0-01 pertaining to car
restoration. She presented Council with pictures and explained
her situation. She doesn't know how this ordinance is in the
best interest of the citizens. She would like Council to
reconsider this ordinance.
Ms. Wells expressed concern with not having codes for colors
painted on buildings. She commented on codes in Port Orange.
She feels codes needs to be put on the books in order to ensure
the downtown area to look nice.
Ms. Wells spoke about beautifying the ramps off 1-95 corning into
Edgewater. She then commented on the advertising on the bus
stops on Indian River Blvd. She feels it would be different in a
commercial area but they should not be in a residential area.
Mark Lutz, 3026 Queen Palm Drive, spoke about having a wedding
reception at his house and inquired about a parking permit. He
has approval from all his neighbors except one that he has been
having problems with.
Councilman Hays asked City Attorney Storey if they had a parking
permit. She was not aware of any. Chief Schumaker sees no
problem with the request as long as the road is passable.
Mayor Hayman commented on during the Road Improvement Program,
there being streets that have businesses which used street side
parking on the public right-of-way. He further spoke about
people parking on the grass.
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Chief Schumaker explained the guidelines allowing for normal
traffic. Mayor Hayman asked Mr. Lutz to follow these guidelines.
Mayor Hayman stated they will do what they can to help. Mr. Lutz
stated the reception will be April 12th from about 2:30 p.m.
until about 6 p.m.
Judith Lichter, 826 Navigators Way, spoke in reference to Item
7B. She asked if it would be possible to make comments when that
item is brought up. There were no objections from Council.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Hays spoke about the ongoing discussion with the
County regarding their proposal to build a Wastewater Treatment
Plant. He feels they need to seriously think about this. He
stated there is basically one question which is when did the
County Council decide that it wanted to start competing with the
municipalities for enterprise funds and utility service.
Councilman Hays hopes the County Council will revisit County
staff recommendations and comes to their senses and decides this
is not in the best interest of Southeast Volusia County.
Mayor Hayman presented his feelings regarding this matter. He
spoke about their proposal and their criticism of the City's
proposal. He stated the community south and west of Edgewater
are going to be given the opportunity to decide themselves what
they want.
Mayor Hayman feels it is time to put an ad in the newspaper
advertising to the citizens of Southeast Volusia letting them
know Edgewater is ready to sell them water and encourage them to
create an interlocal arrangement with the City.
Councilman Hays is surprised that the folks that live between
Edgewater and Oak Hill aren't up in arms about this.
Councilman Hays made a motion to acquaint the public with the
real facts and issues and advertise the options for inter local
arrangement with Edgewater, second by Councilwoman Martin.
Councilman Hays stated if this doesn't work, can we solicit
everyone in Southeast Volusia County.
Councilman Hatfield would like to see what Oak Hill wants and
where they are on this. Mayor Hayman suggested inviting Oak Hill
to a Special Meeting. He and City Manager McMahon agreed to set
up this meeting.
City Manager McMahon informed Council of comments he has received
from officials in Oak Hill.
Councilman Hatfield amended the motion to include setting up a
Special Meeting with Oak Hill. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
Mayor Hayman asked for a vote on the motion to acquaint the
public with the facts and issues and advertise the options for an
interlocal arrangement with Edgewater. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
Mayor Hayman spoke about correspondence received from the County
regarding the community Development Block Grant. Staff was able
to get an additional $32,320 to restore to the block grant money
allocations. We now have $112,179. He thanked city Manager
McMahon, Staff and Ms. Plaskett for the hard work they have done.
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Mayor Hayman elaborated on Ms. Wells comments regarding Port
Orange. He feels it requires a community referendum to decide
whether they want to have rigid standards about color schemes and
exterior designs.
Mayor Hayman spoke about the beautification of the 1-95
intersection. Congressman Mica has pledged his help with that.
It is tied to the Indian River Blvd. expansion.
Councilman Hatfield had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Martin had nothing at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. First reading Ord. 97-0-03 Request to change frequency of
backflow prevention device inspection for reclaimed water
connections from annually to every two years (biennially)
utilities Director Terry Wadsworth briefed Council on the
proposed ordinance. He explained they are asking to comply with
state Law and decrease the frequency of inspections from annually
to every two years. He spoke about the active reuse connections.
Mayor Hayman called attention to the letter received from the
Department of Environmental Protection. They recommend this be
done and have no objections to this action.
Mayor Hayman read Ord. 97-0-03.
Councilman Hays asked Mr. Wadsworth if he has had a problem with
any of these to date. Mr. Wadsworth informed him they have on
the inspections in finding people had problems with above ground
hose bibs.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve Ord. 97-0-03, second by
Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
B. First reading Ord. 97-0-04 Re: Firefighters Pension Fund -
Amending investment restrictions established in Chapter 175,
Florida statutes
Mayor Hayman presented background information and read Ord. 97-0-
04.
Finance Director Fred Munoz presented a report on this request.
Mayor Hayman referred to the Florida League of cities Legislative
Bulletin, Volume 24, Number 15, dated March 7th, Page 6, under
the Personnel section.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve Ord. 97-0-04, second
by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
C. First reading Ord. 97-0-05 Authorizing extension of hours for
bars and taverns during Bike Week
Mayor Hayman presented the background information and read Ord.
97-0-05.
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve Ord. 97-0-05, second
by Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. 911 System Interlocal Agreement
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda,
second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
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OTHER BUSINESS
A. Request to piggy-back Port Orange bid for sewer pipe lining
from Madsen-Barr Allwaste, Inc.
Councilman Hays moved for approval, second by Councilman
Hatfield.
Mayor Hayman presented staff recommendation. City Manager
McMahon explained this is identical to what has been done in the
past to use CDBG funds.
The motion CARRIED 4-0.
B. Preliminary discussion of abandonment of portion of starboard
Avenue, Edgewater Landing
Community Development Director Mark Karet made a staff
presentation and presented the background information. He spoke
about the proposed slide gate system they are willing to install
in the event Council approves abandonment of the property.
Mr. Karet informed Council three representatives were present to
represent the applicant, Harry Carls, Dick Martinez, and Marty
Berge.
City Attorney storey asked who owns the adjoining properties to
this proposed abandonment. Mr. Karet informed her Radnor does.
City Attorney storey stated so if this was abandoned, the
property would go to Radnor and would not be in control of the
Homeowner's Association. Mr. Karet stated those items are being
handed over to the Homeowner's Association. Once Radnor leaves,
everything will be turned over to the Homeowner's Association.
Councilman Hays asked Mr. Karet if all of Starboard Avenue is
presently a dedicated City right-of-way. Mr. Karet informed him
all the roads in Edgewater Landing are publicly dedicated.
Dick Martinez, 317 Schooner Ave, new board member, Homeowner's
Association, Edgewater Landing, explained they received control
of the association from the developer on January 1st.
Harry Carls, Attorney, Curry, Taylor, & Carls, Counsel,
Homeowner's Association, spoke about the duties of the guard and
the entrance into Edgewater Landing.
Mr. Carls elaborated on the history of the development of
Edgewater Landing. He explained there would be no cost to the
city for the gate. The residents are willing to purchase a state
of the art facility.
Councilman Hays spoke about gated communities. He questioned if
the property owner's association wants to entertain a gated
community and have the City dedicate all of that to them so they
can have that security and gated community. Mr. Carls explained
it is his understanding that is definitely not what they want.
Mayor Hayman spoke about the 250 feet they are being asked to
abandon. He questioned who would be responsible for the
maintenance of the asphalt, curbs, and stormwater. Mr. Carls
explained they have been working with Radnor and at the inception
of the development all of the stormwater systems were made the
responsibility of the association. We are fully prepared in the
reserve budget to provide for that street.
Mayor Hayman spoke about the emergency issue. He is satisfied
with what has been presented.
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Mr. Martinez commented on two different systems they have been
looking at.
city Attorney storey explained she is not clear on the ownership
issues of the adjoining parcels. When you abandon it, it no
longer becomes public property and reverts to the private
property owners. If that is the case the City has no right to
drive over that property. Mr. Martinez explained upon
abandonment they will deed that property to the association so it
becomes part of the common areas of the association to be
governed and maintained by the association.
City Attorney storey questioned if the association would provide
the City with an easement across that portion of Starboard
Avenue. Mr. Martinez stated absolutely.
Marty Berge, Managing Partner, Edgewater Landing, explained they
have already deeded all the common areas to the resident's
association. Radnor is not going to maintain any identity in
Edgewater Landing when they are sold out. It will be totally
owned and operated by the homeowners association, including the
abandoned parcel, the service building area, and the ten foot
strip on the south side of the entrance.
City Attorney Storey questioned if parcel D is a commercially
zoned area. Mr. Karet explained the parcel has a commercial
zoning but it is not the commercial parcels that Radnor has out
front of their property that are vacant. This contains a support
building for the development itself.
city Attorney Storey questioned if this portion of the roadway is
currently paved. She was informed yes. She spoke about the fire
trucks traveling on this roadway and there being a necessity for
the road to be maintained. Mr. Carls explained the residents
have already expressed that they are concerned about emergency
access as well. We will commit ourselves to any level of
maintenance that is necessary for the emergency access.
Councilwoman Martin asked for a list of what they need to do to
accomplish this. city Attorney Storey explained this will come
back to Council in the form of a resolution.
Mayor Hayman went over the items to be included in the
resolution.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to come back with a resolution,
second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
There was a five-minute recess at this time.
C. Mike visconti re: beautification
Mike Visconti, 316 pine Breeze Drive, member, Beautification &
Tree Committee, presented his plans for the beautification of
Edgewater.
Mr. Visconti showed Council a tape he made of other local cities
and the beautification done in those cities.
Mayor Hayman thanked Mr. Visconti for the video tape.
Mayor Hayman explained why he feels the Beautification & Tree
Committee needs to join with the Economic Development Board. He
commented on the battle with DOT regarding placing trees in the
medians.
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Mayor Hayman commented on the fountain, medians, and shelters.
Mr. visconti explained the quote he received from a builder for
the shelters was $2000. He further commented on the cost for the
fountain. He feels the fountain would enhance the community.
Mr. visconti thanked Council for listening to him and stated he
is very interested in seeing Edgewater beautified.
Mayor Hayman asked Mr. visconti to prioritize his suggestions.
Mr. visconti stated his first priority would be the fountain,
second would be beautifying the medians on u.s. #1 and third
would be the shelters.
Councilwoman Martin commented on DOT involvement in the process
on u.s. #1 as well as Indian River Blvd.
Councilman Hays commented on the proposed location for the
fountain being City owned. He feels maybe the area between u.s.
#1 and Riverside Drive on Indian River Blvd. could be focused on
this year.
Mr. visconti stated according to Ms. Plaskett as long as they
stay on the east of the right-of-way we should be okay.
Councilman Hatfield feels this is a great start and they need to
take this one step at a time. He complimented Mr. visconti for
the great job he did.
Mr. visconti informed Council he feels the Beautification & Tree
Committee should have a budget.
Councilman Hays commented on the beautification of City Hall.
City Manager McMahon informed Council the City just recently
received permission from the state to extend the reuse water to
SR 442. He spoke about beautifying the lakes in Florida Shores.
Mayor Hayman feels the Committee needs to work with staff. He
encouraged the Committee to join with the Economic Development
Board.
Mr. visconti stated he has the money for the foundation of the
fountain. Progressive Homes will build it and put it together.
City Manager McMahon questioned how much the foundation cost.
Mr. visconti informed him $2,500.
Councilman Hays feels they need to be careful that what they are
doing is beautifying the City and not just building more
mechanisms for advertising. He feels the signage does not need
to be a part of the fountain.
Mayor Hayman spoke about needing to establish approved design
standards for the community.
City Manager McMahon agreed to work with Mr. visconti. He
explained he would come back with the City's share for the cost
of the fountain.
D. Request of Cub Scout Pack 443 to adopt Roberts Road for clean
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City Attorney Storey explained the ladies present had to leave
but they are asking the City erect a sign that would say that
Roberts Road has been adopted by Cub Scout Pack 443. They would
like recognition from the City that this project is acceptable.
Councilman Hatfield moved for approval, second by Councilman
Hays. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
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E. Appointments to Library Board due to expiration of terms of
Fran Byrne and Sue Shaw, who request reappointment
Councilman Hays made a motion to reappoint Fran Byrne and Sue
Shaw, second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
F. Bid challenge - All Terrain Excavator
Mayor HaYman presented the background information.
City Engineer Fegley made a staff presentation regarding the
city's position on the subject matter of the All Terrain
Excavator. He recommended the City proceed with the lowest
bidder which was Menzi USA. He spoke about the six items being
challenged by pioneer Hydraulic Systems.
City Manager McMahon commented on the cost difference in the two
pieces of equipment. He recommended Council uphold the bid award
to Menzi USA.
Ron Beavon, pioneer Hydraulic Systems, made a presentation
regarding why he feels they should be awarded the bid. He
responded to City Manager McMahon's reasoning behind why he would
disregard their legitimate claim as meeting all specifications.
He presented courses of action he would like to see taken.
City Manager McMahon spoke about advantages the Menzi machine has
over the Swamp Meister. Staff stands by the recommendation to
acquire the Menzi as awarded previously.
Councilman Hatfield was excused at 9:45 p.m.
Paul Meadows, Menzi USA, presented background information
regarding his company and their equipment.
Mayor HaYman asked if they have had any problems with cooling the
hydraulic fluids. Mr. Meadows informed him no.
Tom Marks, Sales Manager, Great Southern Equipment, informed
Council he is not protesting the bid.
There were no other representatives protesting the bid.
Councilman Hays asked for City Engineer Fegley to inform him of
comments made by other users regarding the equipment. City
Engineer Fegley explained it depends on the equipment.
Councilman Hays then asked if any of the people he spoke to
described the Menzi equipment or the pioneer Equipment who
submitted bids. City Engineer Fegley explained the biggest
problem he found was the service after the sales and what the
situation was.
City Attorney Storey explained to Council there are two points to
consider, whether, with the waivers, the piece of equipment that
you have awarded the bid to meets the intent of what the City was
looking for and whether in Council's assessment those waivers
represent substantial deviations from the bids such that this is
no longer a fair bid process.
Councilman Hays feels they need to move on with this. He doesn't
feel they can afford to start the process allover again.
Councilman Hays made a motion to award the bid for the All
Terrain Excavator to Menzi USA Sales Inc. and deny the bid
challenge by pioneer Hydraulic Systems Inc, second by
Councilwoman Martin.
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Councilwoman Martin questioned if there will be a trial period
and what the warranty is. City Engineer Fegley explained they
have one year from the delivery date.
The motion CARRIED 3-0.
Councilman Hays asked how long it will take to have it delivered.
City Engineer Fegley informed him three months. Councilman Hays
asked how they could get it sooner. city Attorney storey
explained they still have to give them the opportunity to comply
with the bid specifications and they do have that time frame.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
George Barlow, 1792 Persimmon circle, spoke in reference to the
new Fire station. They have a lot of equipment that is sitting
outside that needs to be covered. He further spoke about the
location of the new Fire station. He recommended a different
location be considered. He feels SR 442 would be a better
location.
Mr. Barlow recommended Council only look at two personnel at this
time, not eight. He spoke about the personnel and the
volunteers.
John Moore, 2354 Fern Palm Drive, extended an invitation to Mr.
visconti to work on a project regarding the bus benches. He
agreed to speak to the Economic Development Board at their next
official meeting. He would like Council's support in the form of
getting the information together on how much money is going to
parks and recreation and how much it is costing the advertiser.
City Attorney storey explained they can provide that information
based on the contract and then quarterly we receive a check that
sets forth how much revenue is coming in from each bus bench.
Since the benches have been put up along willow Oak Drive and SR
442, the dollars have increased about 10 to 15 percent in the
last couple quarters each time.
OFFICER REPORTS
A. Discussion of reV1Slons to off-street parking and loading
requirements contained in zoning ordinance
Mr. Karet presented the background information. He explained the
different materials that can be used for parking facilities. He
then spoke about material costs. Staff's opinion that the
permanently hard surface that is currently in the code should be
retained as opposed to offering alternatives that in the long run
will require significantly more maintenance and degrade the
aesthetics of the community.
Councilman Hays expressed an interest in Geoweb. He feels they
need to evaluate, for parking spaces, the type of business, the
size of the lot, and the traffic flow.
There was a discussion regarding parking for churches and
commercial districts.
Mayor Hayman spoke about the parking at the Edgewater united
Methodist Church and the shell parking area. He spoke about the
way New Smyrna Beach deals with the parking issue. Mr. Karet
spoke about studies done regarding various parking generation
rates. He agreed to get the information for Council.
There was a discussion regarding the situation with parking at
Mr. carwile's business.
Mayor Hayman would like to see a more lenient process created for
the light and moderate needs for parking.
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Councilman Hays spoke about when DOT came to Council regarding
removing parking from u.s. #1. He would like to try to work with
the business people to work out a solution. He questioned if
they are too restrictive on the ordinances and discouraging
business in Edgewater. He feels there has to be some middle
ground. He asked Staff to help work out other solutions.
city Attorney Storey explained Mr. Karet doesn't have discretion.
The Council would be required to change the ordinance.
Councilman Hays feels that is what they need to do to help Mr.
Karet do his job. City Attorney Storey explained there is a
danger to allowing discretion and that is why administrative
officials are not given discretion.
Mayor Hayman spoke about light and moderate needs for the
business people in the community.
Councilman Hays feels they have to allow the professionals to act
as professionals and give them some discretion in their decision
making. He feels that is part of the process.
City Manager McMahon informed Council the City is going to pick
up the water hydrant expansion program. We are going to have to
wait until the RIP project is finished. He is going to authorize
out of the contingency in the general fund to the degree that we
can put hydrants in when the RIP is done.
Mr. Wadsworth informed Council the City needs approximately 300
hydrants. When they take up the issue of the funding for the
fire services, he is going to look at that as being part of the
fire assessment option.
City Manager McMahon reported on the status of the new fire
station. We will be going out for RFP's on that shortly at the
direction of Council.
City Manager McMahon commented on the organization studies and
field audits of the positions and classifications. That is
moving along very well. Towards the end of May, he would be able
to give a more comprehensive report. VCOG has offered to
consolidate that and either use an FSU or stetson study.
City Manager McMahon informed Council he would be coming back in
April with other matters he has discussed with FSU.
City Manager McMahon informed Council Charlane Runge has been
transferred to the Fire Department. He acquainted Council with
some of the new things she will be doing. She will be assisting
in the enforcement of and the administration of the fire safety
code the city currently has in effect.
City Manager McMahon spoke about a letter he received from
Florida League of cities stating their position on that and what
it has meant to us from their perspective.
There was a brief discussion regarding fire and safety issues.
Mayor Hayman spoke about a conversation he had with steve from
FLOC.
City Manager McMahon commented on the increase and change in
duties being performed by Ms. Runge.
Mayor Hayman asked when they can look for the water lines to be
upsized on u.s. #1 particularly at the south end. Mr. Wadsworth
presented a brief report on the upsizing of the water lines.
until the RIP is done, he isn't going to be able to do anything
due to lack of personnel.
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city Manager McMahon suggested Mr. Wadsworth make a list of
priority areas indicating start times between now and budget
time.
Councilman Hays thanked staff for their help with trying to bring
the Wastewater Plant issue to the County Council.
Mayor Hayman stated earlier he asked for permission to revisit
the bills in the House and Senate that have to do with the police
and fire municipal pensions. He briefly explained the bills.
The colleagues at the FLOC are strongly opposing both of the
house bills and senate bills and they would like the City to do
likewise.
Councilman Hays made a motion to support FLOC's recommendation,
second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 3-0.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman Martin
made a motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 10:46 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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(~It~Y OF' OAK HILL
234 South U.S. HIghway #1
Oak Hill, Florida 32759
SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING
Monday
March 31. 1997
7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
[ . Call To Order
Mayor Jack Hayman of Edgewater welcomed everyone to the joint meeti of the
Cities of Edgewater and Oak Hill.
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Roll Call. Commissioner Jiles J. Sm.ith-present; Commissioner James
ill-present; Commissioner Jeffrey E. Bracy-present; Vice-Mayor Donn
.Bennett -present; Mayor Toreatha M. Wood -present.
Ill. Opening Remarks
Mayor Toreatha M. W cod stated that the City Commission of the City of ak. Hill
would Iik,e to thank Mayor Hayman and the City of Edgewater for invitin us. She
further stat\~d that we have looked forward to this meeting in order to do s me
constructive listening.
Mayor Jack Hayman stated that the City of Edgewater Council has been i erested
for some time in the revitalization of Southeast Volusia County. One nee' that
became apparent was for an adequate and efficient utility network. That s the
reason for the $42 million capital improvement project completed a couple of years
ago that provided a sewer system, a reuse water system, and expanded w er
facilities in our City. He went on to say that Edgewater has a pipe full of ater,
that anyone can tap into, all the way down to Boston Whaler - the Count owns it
from there on down. Mayor Hayman wants to see the residents of Southe st
Volusia take charge of their own destinies and not let the County Gove nt Staff
have control. He stated that this meeting was the first step towards findin the best,
most efficient outcome - whatever that is.
Councilman Michael Hays, from the City of Edgewater. reiterated Mayor
Hayman's position that the citizens of Southeast Volusia County need to p icipate
in this endeavor.
Vice-Mayor Louise Martin, from the City of Edgewater, expressed eonce about
the expenditure of tax dollars without good purpose and the lack of cooper tion
from the County.
Councilman Danny Hatfield, from the City of Edgewater, stated that he ho d this
step tonight would open the door for future intercity cooperation,
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Councilman David Mitct'em stated that he personally doesn't thirik we ne d the
County in the utility buslUt;ss.
[V. Hllckground Infol'lUiltfon
George McMahon, City Manager for the City of Edgewater, assured eve
Edgewater's Utility Plant is well equipped to handle their own needs, as
needs of their fellow communities. He advised that they have an it
treatment plant. The County does not propose this because. beinginlan
not be subject to the same requirements. The Environmental Protection
(E.P.A.) regularly tests Edgewater.lt these higher standards and they ha
all their tests fine. Mr. McMahon went on to say that Edgewater ha~ bot
wastewater facilities available to residents of Southeast Volusia County.
one that
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Fred Munoz, Finance Director for the City of Edgewater, gave some fact and
figures concerning the sewer issue. He stated that the County presently as 16
plants. with an average of 250 cllstomers per plant. Edgewater has I pI t with
7.500 customers. Rdgewater's (m-line plant is just about equivalent to ,
County's proposed one, which the County would have to charge about
per customer just to pay for the plant itself. The City of Edgewater is ng the
position that it is much more cost-efficient to make use of what is already in place.
instead of building something with redundant capacity. They believe the are the
low cost producer, hands down.
George McMahon explained that growth in Edgewater has been slower they
had anticipated and. even with the westward growth that is forthcoming, hey have
the capacity and capability to accommodate the needs of other communiti s.
Jerry Haltman. City Engineer for the City of Edgewater, gave an inform jve
presentation utilizing visual aid projections to answer questions like (l) hy
are We here? (2) Overall Benefits of Selecting Edgewater, (3) Quality of~ red by
Edgt:~water. (4) Service of Edgewater. (5) Cost and (6) Edgewater's Hist deal and
Projected Flows. A copy of this segment is avaiJable forin-oftice viewi in
City Hall. Mr. Hartman stressed thar Grant money and State Revolving oan
money was used to fund this project and that it is already being paid back the full
debt burden has already hit the rates. He also stressed that the only canst lction
impact would be for extending the water lines. Mr. Hartman advised tha the Cities
of Edgewater and New Smyrna have a network which allows them to bu ancUor
sell water from and/or to them, ao;; needed. He also explained that Edgew ter's
Plant is currently projected to expand in 2011; it would be moved to 2 . , is the
City of Oak Hill opted in.
George McMahon stressed in a closing statement for the background info
that cities do no make money on wastewater. they make it on water.
Councilman Michael Hays asked the City of Oak Hill and residents of th
unincorporated areas to find out how the County plans to bill for this S8
treatment - you cannot meter sewer. A tlat service fee would not differe
between 2 member households and 8 member households.
Vke.-Mayor Donna J. Bennett asked how Edgewater disposes of the slud e? Jeny
Hartman advised that it is fully digested and applied to farms. Effluent, owevel',
is made available as rew;e for residential yards.
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Terry Wadsworth, Directo' of Utilities for Edgewater, advi~ that the_ tv of
Edgewater has an impact fee for every additional residence that comes 0 -line.
This does not differentiate between in City limits and outside City limit.,.
Currently, this impact fee is $1,425. This is for treatment. transmission and other
misc, including collection and improveme.nt, The amount for this impac fee would
have to he re-evahIart~d to allow for the difference in these costs for the eas in
questiun.
Conncilman David Michem stated, "We are in the utility business. If we can do it
cheaper, than yOll as a buyer will reap those benefits."
v . Publlc Comments/Questions
Fomler City of Oak Hill Mayor Bruce Burch askt"..d if Oak Hill residents would
receive the same rates as the residents of Edgewater. George McMahon advised
that whoever is requiring the additional pipe will have to pay for it. Je Hartman
advised that State Revolving Loan money is available to a city even if th don't
own their own plant.
Jim Ward, Volusia County Councilman. stated that he wants the best de
citizens of Southeast Volu5ia, whatever that is. He has asked the Count
cost analysis, raking into consideration that Edgewater can provide this
also stated that the County has put about $200,000 into this project, thu
asked if the City of Oak Hill wa~ ready to become involved in thi~ issue.
that his position was that cities should handle utilities. whenever possib
for the
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far. He
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VI. Consideration of Resolution 97.R-06 for Cooperation and
Mayor Jack Hayman stated that it had been brought to their attention that he City
of Oak Hill's Charter prohihited them from taking any action outside of e
houndaries of their City and that this issue in particular could not he dete lined
without appropriate discussion from the citizens of Oak Hill. Therefore, it would
not be appropriate to ask the City Commission of Oak Hill to consider t s
resollltion at this time.
V I I. Adjournment-The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
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