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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 1, 1993
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Hayman called the regular meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Jack Hayman
Councilman Kirk Jones
Councilwoman Louise Martin
Councilman Michael Hays
Councilman David Mitchum
City Attorney Krista storey
city Manager George McMahon
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Dr. William Sharp, Christian Life Center, delivered the
invocation. There was a pledge of allegiance to the Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Special Meetinq of October 13, 1993
Councilman Jones made a motion to approve the October 13, 1993
minutes, seconded by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Gail Wells, 2503 Woodland Drive, asked about the fences being
placed around the lift stations being mandatory.
city Engineer Kyle Fegley stated DER required a barrier or some
type of device to protect the equipment. It was determined the
city can make the final decision on how to protect their
equipment.
Councilman Jones asked how much more of an expense the City is
looking at to make the necessary changes. Mr. Fegley informed
Councilman Jones he hadn't pursued that.
City Manager McMahon asked Council to authorize staff to proceed
with this as long as the cost does not exceed 10% of what was
originally budgeted. He also suggested to Council if they were
to authorize us to proceed, if the cost looks like it is going to
be unacceptable, he would make an effort to contact each
Councilmember and ask them to have a meeting.
Councilman Hays made a motion for the City Manager and staff to
determine costs and report back to Council if the costs appear to
be in excess or prohibited, seconded by Councilman Mitchum. The
motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mr. Fegley asked Council is this only for the existing lift
stations and questioned the ones that have not been done yet.
Mayor Hayman does not want fences around any of the lift
stations.
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Councilman Hays stated if there are no complaints leave them as
is, but if this becomes a problem then do something about it.
Mrs. Wells thanked Council.
Ray Vath, 2703 Kumquat Drive, commented on the paving of Juniper
Drive. He stated up until the CIP Juniper was one of the better
paved streets in the City. He stated now there are ten pot
holes. He stated the City should get the contractor to repave
the street because fixing pot holes just leads to them getting
bigger.
Mayor Hayman informed Mr. Vath this would be coming up under New
business Item 5C.
Donna Smith, 123 Thomas Street, spoke about the Thomas Street
access to the river. She read a letter from her neighbors on
Thomas Street.
City Manager McMahon stated this has already been abandoned for
access to the Riverwalk.
Ms. smith asked why the bench on Thomas Street was taken away.
City Manager McMahon informed her there was an issue with the
property owner in regards to the bench and we are still working
to resolve this. City Attorney Storey elaborated on this. She
informed Ms. Smith all of the papers have been signed and the
bench will be put back within the next few days.
Pete Hellsten, 1717 B S. Riverside Drive, stated he was
disappointed by the action of Council with the way they treated
items he was involved with. Mr. Hellsten explained his reasons
for saying what he said. He feels it was taken out of content.
He commented on the ethics workshop he attended. He feels he was
not given a chance to defend himself. He doesn't feel there is a
case. He is extremely disappointed on the way this matter was
handled.
Mr. Hellsten thanked the LDRA and everyone that spoke in his
defense.
CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Hayman read the consent agenda.
A. Extension of Employee Assistance Proqram with ACT Corporation
from 10/1/93 to 9/30/94
Mayor Hayman asked about the periodic reports regarding
assistance rendered to the city for the services of $11.50 per
employee. He doesn't recall ever seeing a report.
City Manager McMahon informed him they have been remiss in
providing these reports but the ACT corporation has assured they
will take care of this.
Mayor Hayman asked this be placed under New Business.
city Manager McMahon stated this has been used heavily by our
employees and they have the right to cancel this contract within
30 days.
Mayor Hayman asked what the utilization rate of this is at $11.50
per employee. He questioned if there is any redundancy in
benefits with the new medical package that we have.
Councilman Hays suggested a presentation from a representative of
ACT at the next meeting.
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Councilman Jones made a motion to table this until the next
meeting, seconded by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
NEW BUSINESS
A. Road pavinq proiect Presentation and Authorization to
Initiate the proiect
City Manager McMahon gave a presentation. He explained this is
one of his most difficult challenges because this comes on top of
assessments making infrastructure improvements in the City. He
stated this problem goes back to the history of the City. He
stated the citizens who benefit from this are the people who are
asked to pay for it.
City Manager McMahon stated they have gone over a number of ways
to pay for this. He explained these ways. He stated if this
project is completed, the property values in the city will
increase 10% - 15%. He stated if we do this program, when it is
completed we can eliminate approximately $280,000 for maintenance
from the Public Works budget.
City Manager McMahon explained they have looked at the most
painless way of dealing with this and the method they came up
with is the longevity spread over 10 or 15 years.
city Manager McMahon explained the benefits in doing this program
at this time are; by completing the paving program at one time we
will significantly effect the resale value of all property, the
economy scale will reduce the paving costs; the current bond
market for municipal bonds is excellent and this will have a
further positive effect on funding; the entire concern for dust
and health problems will be overcome; and, the City maintenance
of the unpaved streets will decrease immediately preceding the
paving program.
City Manager McMahon stated any money the City paid came out of
the general revenue money. He stated there are subdivisions in
the City that have already paid for paving which was paid for
when they bought their property. He then spoke about some of the
streets in Edgewater being resurfaced.
City Manager McMahon explained the project he is proposing would
envision a 100% assessment to be shared on a 50% cost basis by
each property owner abutting the street. He stated the entire
cost of this would be financed and it is estimated to be
$10,000,000 for the Florida Shores area only.
city Manager McMahon explained a payment of $215 on an annual
basis would be required to repay the bond issue over 15 years.
If this is paid over 10 years, the payment would be $297.
City Manager McMahon explained also proposed in this are the
east-west streets to provide a reasonable circulation pattern in
the Shores. He spoke about the east-west streets having
retention areas and he explained no one will lose their driveway
access. He spoke about beautifying these retention areas.
City Manager McMahon spoke about the rejection of the 41% tax
increase with paving included in the original budget.
Community Development Director Mark Karet spoke about three
handouts made available. First is a basic summary from the City
Manager, second is a schedule of the major events in the approval
phase to the capital improvement program and third is a list of
the streets which are proposed for paving.
Mr. Karet asked Council for authorization. He went on to explain
a step-by-step overview of the project.
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City Manager McMahon informed Council and the citizens it is part
of his proposal to go out for RFP so this can be federally done.
Mr. Karet informed Council the time of the construction phase
would be 30 months. Councilman Hays questioned why it would take
30 months. Mr. McMahon informed Councilman Hays stormwater
drainage is also included in this project.
Councilman Hays mentioned this was a portion of what was
originally proposed in the ClP and it was withdrawn for
reasons. He doesn't understand why paving the roads is
take as long as the whole ClP project is. City Manager
explained Councilman Hays' concerns on the time frame.
explained this would be a 15 to 20 year road as well as
stormwater being included.
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City Engineer Kyle Fegley explained his estimates of the time
frame for construction. He stated it would take approximately 3
1/2 weeks to do a mile including the stormwater drainage.
City Manager McMahon stated we should be able to do put this to
contract and begin construction around March.
Councilman Hays asked about the type of roads that would be put
in Florida Shores. Mr. Fegley stated he is trying to match the
life of the amortization with the usefulness of the road.
Councilman Hays asked if the $280,000 we are using per year for
road grading is going to be a reduced budget item once the roads
are paved.
Public Works Director Hugh Williams informed Councilman Hays we
should be able to knock off about $200,000 for road grading.
Councilman Hays asked about the bike paths, swales and parks. He
does not feel this should be a part of the paving assessment. He
was informed this would be funded for Parks and Recreation and
Streets.
City Manager McMahon suggested having a workshop with the Council
to discuss the business aspect of this that has to do with the
east-west streets in detail.
Councilman Mitchum asked if there would be a problem with the
reactivation of stormwater permits. Mr. Karet informed him they
don't anticipate that being a problem but they do feel it is
necessary to go back and inform the st. Johns River Water
Management Commission of the alterations.
Mayor Hayman stated he will not support creating a bunch of ponds
on every east-west street for children to drown in.
Mayor Hayman also spoke on the Water Supply Cooperative and how
they can help us.
Mayor Hayman also spoke about the specifications and engineering
and design. He stated we have to have no less than a 15-year
road out there. He feels this needs to be done right the first
time.
Councilman Jones asked about the original design done by DRMP.
He asked how much the city is going to have to spend to revise
the plans done by them.
Mr. Karet informed him we would not have to scrap the original
design. He stated the expected basic changes are going to cost
approximately $200,000 but this should be significantly reduced
through negotiations with DRMP.
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Mr. Karet explained there is not enough room on the rights-of-way
to hold stormwater runoff. He explained the options that were
looked at.
Ron Ferland, DRMP, spoke about the stormwater retention areas.
He explained the reasons for the 30 month construction schedule.
Councilman Jones spoke about ponds on the back of Silver Palm
Drive that are grown up and the ponds being empty. He questioned
them being used as part of the scheme for water retention. Mr.
Karet informed him this property is owned by the County.
Councilman Mitchum commented back when this all started there was
a lot of effort taken to minimize the impact on the access to
driveways.
Finance Director Fred Munoz explained how the cost estimate of
$10,000,000 was figured. He presented the street paving and
drainage costs over 15 years. He stated if this amount was paid
up front, the approximate amount would be $1,860.00.
City Manager McMahon spoke about the appreciation of property
values with paving.
City Manager McMahon stated he is asking for approval of the
overall paving project.
Councilman Hays asked if this could be done in a shorter time
frame. He feels we should get this done as quickly as possible
as long as it is done right.
Councilman Jones feels we need to get on with the program.
city Manager McMahon feels the cost is reasonably safe to work
with.
Councilman Jones expressed concern about our community being able
to afford this assessment on top of the sewer assessment.
Councilman Mitchum feels the price is right now because he sees
it getting worse before it gets better.
There was discussion on the community being able to afford this.
Councilman Jones would like to see this brought to the people to
see what they want. If there is support, it will go.
City Attorney Storey informed Council they need to direct staff
to take the necessary steps to proceed forward and initiate the
necessary steps to bring the resolution back.
Councilman Mitchum made a motion to authorize staff to progress
forward taking the necessary steps, seconded by Councilman Hays.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
There was a five minutes recess at this time.
B. Proposed Beach Improvements Proqram bv Bud Asher, Chairman,
Volusia County Beach Trust Commission
Bob McIntosh, Edgewater representative, briefed Council on the
budget for the Volusia County Beach Trust Commission.
Bud Asher, Chairman, explained the proposed Beach Improvements
Program and the proposed budget.
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Mr. Asher would like the County and cities do what they can to
find ways to mill these beach rangers into other employment so
they don't go unemployed.
Mayor Hayman asked Mr. Asher to explain the local businesses
creating a special taxing district. He asked what that concept
would do and how much money that would generate for capital
projects. Mr. Asher elaborated on this matter.
Councilman Jones feels this proposal is the way to go. He feels
this should be endorsed.
Councilman Mitchum agreed. He feels this proposal should become
accountable.
Councilman Hays stated he appreciated Mr. Asher's presentation.
He doesn't feel we got what we voted for when we voted for a
beach commission. He feels maybe this needs to go back to the
voters to see if we even need a beach trust commission anymore.
He feels individual cities did a better job running the beaches.
Mr. Asher stated the Beach Trust Commission is not going to take
an official recommendation action until the various City Councils
make their decisions on what their feelings are on the plan and
on November 11, 1993 the feelings will be conveyed to the County
Council by resolution.
Mayor Hayman told Mr. McIntosh and Mr. Asher they have Council's
total endorsement of the proposal.
Councilman Hays thanked them for coming.
C. Defective Road Pavinq/Capital Improvements Proqram
City Manager McMahon stated there are roads in the CIP that do
not meet the standards of the City. He spoke about getting this
taken care of now instead of having to correct it later.
city Engineer Kyle Fegley gave a presentation on the defective
road paving in Florida Shores. He proposed to add an additional
1" asphalt to the proposed 1" which is required by the contract
documents. He feels this is the most economical feasible thing
to do.
Mr. Fegley mentioned the current paving contractor is not as
generous as the previous paving contractor was. They are meeting
the bare minimum requirements.
Councilman Mitchum asked what the minimum requirements are. Mr.
Fegley informed him the minimum requirements of the asphalt
itself is an average 1" thickness. He commented on the paving
job that has been done near his house. He stated there are
enough unlevel areas on his street to solve the stormwater runoff
problem.
There was further discussion about the unlevel streets in Florida
Shores.
City Manager McMahon recommended to minimize the cost, the
Council should borrow from the insurance fund and pay it back
through the general fund debt service over a period of five
years.
Councilman Mitchum feels we need to get everything we have got
coming to us to go underneath that before we spend our money to
go over it. Councilman Hays agreed.
City Manager McMahon stated they will not be paid for completion
until they meet the specifications.
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Mayor Hayman stated we have two inspectors on site that are
supposed to be monitoring the progress of work. He stated they
either don't know what they are doing or they are not there doing
it. He asked what authority the inspectors have on the streets.
Mr. Fegley elaborated on Mayor Hayman's concerns.
There was discussion on who has the authority to stop the
contractors and tell them when something is being done wrong and
advise them to fix it.
Councilman Hays suggested inviting S & E Contractors to speak to
the Council.
Mayor Hayman stated he would no longer sign any payment requests
and Mr. Fegley is to no longer sign any authorizations for
payment until they are satisfied with the job.
City Attorney storey stated they need to be careful that their
concerns about the defective paving and the payments being made
match.
Councilman Mitchum asked if Phase II and Phase III have been
accepted and paid for. Mr. Fegley informed him a percentage has
been paid for.
Council discussed some paving problems in the Florida Shores area
and payments being made.
Councilwoman Martin stated Council would appreciate a list of the
problem areas in Florida Shores.
Councilman Jones feels the inspectors should be finding these
problems before the citizens report them. He stated he would
like the inspectors to come to a meeting.
Mayor Hayman asked where the money is going to come from. City
Manager McMahon informed him the money comes from the SRF loan or
from borrowed money from another City fund. He stated the
logical thing to do is spread debt service and pay back to the
insurance fund over a period of time.
City Manager McMahon gave the costs for each phase.
Councilman Mitchum is opposed to taking care of this matter
tonight because he wants to know what the final is. He stated we
need to look at Phase II and Phase III and make sure they are
completed before payment is made.
Mr. Fegley informed Council Phase II is 99% completed.
Councilman Hays also was opposed to taking care of this matter
tonight.
Councilwoman Martin suggested having a workshop with the
contractors.
Mayor Hayman stated there are three things they need: test
results in the phases being tested, the status of funding, and a
detailed description of shortcomings and the required work by
phase.
Councilman Mitchum spoke about having a problem with paying half
a million dollars to correct the roads after telling the people
they were going to get a brand new road which would be included
in the CIP.
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Councilwoman Martin asked if a meeting has been held with the
contractors. She has not seen any report on this meeting if
there has been one. Mr. Fegley informed her it is a matter of
them either rectifying the problem or us not accepting it.
Councilman Mitchum asked who has the stop work authority. Mr.
Fegley stated he does, Mr. McMahon does, and Mr. Wadsworth does.
Mr. Ferland explained how the 1" of asphalt pavement was decided
on. He stated the request for additional asphalt is not to cover
the problems of the contractor. He stated there are two
alternatives to correct the problem: withhold payment for
asphalt portion or increase the retainer. He explained that the
reason for having a one year warranty bond is to correct any
problems that come up after the contractor is gone.
Mr. Ferland informed the Council he would get with Mr. Fegley,
staff, the inspectors and the contractor and paving contractor to
resolve the issue and Mr. Fegley would come back with a report to
give Council a positive feeling these problems will be taken care
of.
Mayor Hayman informed Mr. Fegley the Council wants a detailed
description, test results and feedback of the SRF loan
possibility.
Councilman Hays asked when we changed to eight inches of shell to
the other mixture, how do we know we got the quality we should
have had. He doesn't think we did and that is part of the
problem.
Councilman Hays was concerned if we are approaching this the
right way by increasing the thickness of the roads.
Ray Vath, 2703 Kumquat Drive, asked the Council to drive down
Juniper Drive to see the holes in the road.
George Ewing, Royal Palm Drive, stated he is in Phase III and
Royal Palm has not been paved yet. He presented the Council with
a sample of the paving before the CIP program began. He
questioned if the road that would be laid would be the same as
the road they had before. city Manager McMahon elaborated on Mr.
Ewing's concerns.
D. Final Chanqe Order No.5 for decrease of $53,918.90 in
Chapman Construction contract amount for CIP Phase I
Councilman Mitchum made a motion to approve Change Order No.5,
seconded by Councilman Jones. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
E. Change Order No. 2 for Roberts Rd. Bike Trail proiect,
decreasing price by $1,500
City Manager McMahon informed Council they withheld $17,000 until
the contractor did the job the right way.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve Change Order No.2,
seconded by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
F. Discussion re: Amendment to Aqenda Format
Councilman Hays made a motion to bring up Council Comments as
Item 4 and also after citizen comments at the end, seconded by
Councilman Mitchum.
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Mayor Hayman suggested a three month trial period but due to this
requiring a change in the ordinance, it was decided this would be
changed and brought back in ordinance form at the next meeting.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
ORDINANCES, PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND RESOLUTIONS
FIRST READING:
There were no items for first reading at this time.
SECOND READING:
(PUBLIC HEARING)
A. Ord. No. 93-0-17 providinq for Cable TV rate regulation
consistent with Federal Communication commission requirements
Mayor Hayman read Ord. 93-0-17.
Mayor Hayman opened the public hearing.
Mayor Hayman closed the public hearing.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve Ord. 93-0-17, seconded
by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Res. 93-R-27 Urqinq Leqislature to end or limit state
Mandates without adequate funding
City Manager McMahon made a brief presentation to council.
Mayor Hayman read Res. 93-R-27.
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve Res. 93-R-27,
seconded by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Appointment of one member to Land Development & Requlatory
Agency to replace Pete Hellsten (Tabled 10/18/93)
Councilman Hays removed this from the table.
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to appoint Albert Rossini,
seconded by Councilman Hays.
Councilman Jones feels Danny Hatfield would be a good choice
because he has served before. He feels he would be a good asset
to the LDRA.
The motion DIED 2-3. Councilman Mitchum, Mayor Hayman and
Councilman Jones voted NO.
Councilman Mitchum made a motion to appoint Danny Hatfield,
seconded by Councilman Jones. The motion CARRIED 4-1.
Councilwoman Martin voted NO.
COUNCIL/OFFICERS REPORTS
city Attorney
City Attorney storey had nothing at this time.
city Manaqer
city Manager McMahon spoke about the assessment notice for
prepayment which was mailed two years ago.
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Councilman Mitchum
Councilman Mitchum had nothing at this time.
Mayor Hayman
Mayor Hayman had nothing at this time.
Councilman Jones
Councilman Jones made a motion to send a message to Chairman Bud
Asher endorsing his proposal and adopt this by resolution,
seconded by Councilman Mitchum. Councilman Hays asked this be
carbon copied for County Council.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
Councilwoman Martin commented on a new application being
presented for a board appointment. She commented on the motion
to appoint Mr. Rossini being denied. She feels it was not
polite.
Councilman Hays
Councilman Hays commented on the rotating for board appointments.
He liked the way they did it before. He stated he supported
Councilwoman Martin.
Councilman Jones and Councilman Mitchum feel the way it is done
now is by majority and it is the only fair way.
Councilman Hays commented on enclaves. Councilman Hays asked Mr.
Karet how far along we are on this. Mr. Karet stated they are
not yet prepared to bring this matter before Council.
Councilman Hays commented on looking into the economic fiscal
impact analysis and economic development strategy for the Port
Authority.
Councilman Hays commented on Fish Hospital and the twenty million
dollar expansion. He stated Fish Memorial is going out for a
general obligation bond.
Questions from Press
There were no questions from the press.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
There were no citizen comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman Jones made
a motion to adjourn, seconded by Councilman Hays. The meeting
adjourned at 11:11 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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