10-18-1993 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 18, 1993
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Hayman called the regular meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Jack Hayman
Councilman Kirk Jones
Councilwoman Louise Martin
Councilman Michael Hays
Councilman David Mitchum
city Attorney Krista storey
City Manager George McMahon
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
Lieutenant Bucky McEver
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Excused
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Reverend Harvey Hardin gave the invocation. There was a pledge
of allegiance to the Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Reqular Meetinq of September 20. 1993
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve the September 20,
1993 minutes, seconded by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED
5-0.
Reqular Meetinq of October 4. 1993
Councilman Jones made a motion to approve the October 4, 1993
minutes, seconded by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-
1. Councilman Hays voted NO.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Gail Wells, 2503 Woodland Drive, spoke about the fences being put
around lift stations. She does not want a fence put around the
lift station by her house. She feels property in Florida Shores
will not sell because of these fences.
Galen McClain, 3119 Queen Palm Drive, asked if there has been
progress made in paving the unpaved streets. City Manager
McMahon stated a plan will be brought to the city Council the
first meeting in November.
Mr. McClain expressed concern about a bar code being placed on
the utility bills in the future. He stated with a bar code you
know nothing about what anything costs.
Mr. McClain spoke about the agenda in the Saturday Observer. He
questioned the cost and the reason for it being a display ad and
not a legal ad. City Manager McMahon stated the agenda is given
to the press and they elect where to put it and how they want to
put it in there. city Clerk Susan Wadsworth clarified the agenda
is faxed to the newspapers to be placed in the legal ads.
Mr. McClain expressed his concerns about the Consent Agenda Item
A. Mayor Hayman elaborated on Mr. McClain's concerns.
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CONSENT AGENDA:
Mayor Hayman read the consent agenda.
A. Waive purchase reauirements for vendors for
equipment/supplies and/or services that are routine and recurrina
in nature
Councilman Mitchum asked this be removed from the consent agenda
and be placed under New Business as Item J.
NEW BUSINESS:
AA. Waive purchase reauirements for vendors for
eauipment/supplies and/or services that are routine and recurrina
in nature
Councilman Hays asked since they are at this item if they could
handle this first.
City Manager McMahon explained the waiver. He answered questions
of the Council.
utilities Director Terry Wadsworth further elaborated on this
waiver.
Mayor Hayman expressed some concern with some of the items on
this waiver. City Manager McMahon addressed Mayor Hayman's
concerns.
Councilman Jones has no problems with this waiver. He expressed
his feelings on this matter.
Councilman Jones made a motion to adopt this, seconded by
Councilwoman Martin.
Mayor Hayman asked the frequency that we would use this
exception. City Manager McMahon stated this relates directly to
the amount of gallons of gasoline we use every year and the
amount of tires we use. We are stocked as necessary.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
A. Public Works Director's reauest to purchase 120 refractory
bricks for incinerator for $5,400 from Superior Brick as sole
supplier of this type brick
City Manager McMahon explained the need for these bricks.
There was discussion on the bricks bought previously and what
they were used for.
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to purchase the refractory
bricks, seconded by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Chanae Order No. 5 for Advanced Wastewater Treatment Plant &
Effluent Reuse Facility for net increase of $334.38
utilities Director Terry Wadsworth explained the items requiring
the need for Change Order No.5.
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve Change Order No.5,
seconded by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
C. Employee Cap in the B-2 District
Community Development Director Mark Karet gave a presentation on
the Employee Cap of three employees in the B-2 District.
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Mr. Karet explained the recommendations from staff. If Council
wishes to proceed with this we should go ahead and make an
amendment to the comprehensive plan and decide which portions of
the B-2 District would be most appropriate for a zone change to
industrial.
Councilwoman Martin asked if this is in reference to mini-
warehouses. Mr. Karet explained in the past, conversions of
mini-warehouses were allowed.
Mr. Karet explained there is a church on Hibiscus, a number of
duplexes on Guava and calling it an industrial district would be
difficult.
Mayor Hayman stated the City has two windows and two modifiers
and he asked what the two windows were. Mr. Karet stated there
would be one window in the spring and one in the fall.
Mayor Hayman spoke about problems he has with the three employee
cap in this area. He explained either people need to move or do
their work illegally. He feels a comp plan needs to be
developed.
Councilman Hays feels we need to look at what is on the areas
next to the railroad tracks.
Mr. Karet explained the Planning and Zoning Board was trying to
limit the intensity of manufacturing.
Mayor Hayman would like to see our staff work with businessmen
and women in that area to come up with a solution that would
eliminate a cap and create the light manufacturing classification
we can live with. He explained some of his concerns with this
matter.
City Manager McMahon stated he would have staff come back with a
comp plan amendment.
Mr. Karet stated this will have to go to the LDRA first and then
hearings will have to be held in that regard. This will be
prepared and presented to the LDRA at their November meeting.
He explained they can work with the Industrial Development Board
by Mr. Martin's direct involvement or present it to the Board.
Councilman Jones feels this matter needs to be expedited so
existing businesses can expand.
D. Beautification & Tree Committee's request to place scenic
route siqns alonq Riverside Drive
Councilman Hays stated he spoke to Mrs. Ver Way and the Committee
is asking for signs which designate Riverside Drive as a scenic
route.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve this request, seconded
by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
E. Parks & Recreation Board's request to consider pet clean up
ordinance for animals on public walks, recreational areas, or anv
propertv other than pet owners
Parks & Recreation Director Jack Corder made a presentation at
this time.
There was a lengthy discussion on cleaning up after animals that
litter on public walks, recreation areas or any property other
than the pet owners.
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City Manager McMahon suggested designating the entire Riverwalk
as a public park, then the ordinance would cover it.
Lieutenant McEver elaborated on this matter.
Mayor Hayman expressed his concerns about designating Riverwalk
as a City park just to prohibit dogs.
Councilman Hays feels if you are going to walk your dog, you
should be responsible for cleaning up after it. He stated maybe
a requirement could be if you bring your dog to a park, you are
responsible to clean up after it.
Councilman Mitchum agreed with Councilman Hays. He feels it
needs to be spelled out and signs put up to inform people.
Councilman Jones also agreed. He stated we should we ask our
citizens to be more considerate and give them an opportunity
before creating more enforcements. He stated if it continues to
be a problem then check into it later and change it.
Councilman Mitchum asked that this be spelled out in the
newsletter asking our citizens to be more considerate.
F. Appointment of one member to Parks & Recreation Board due to
resiqnation of John Cory
Mayor Hayman spoke highly of Mr. Paul Alvord.
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to appoint Paul Alvord,
seconded by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
G. Appointment of one member to Land Development & Requlatorv
Aqency to replace Pete Hellsten
Councilman Hays stated he would like to table this until the next
meeting because he received some new applications he would like
to review.
Councilman Hays made a motion to table this item, seconded by
Councilman Mitchum.
Councilwoman Martin stated she wanted to nominate Paul Rossini.
Councilman Jones feels it would not hurt to delay this
appointment.
The motion CARRIED 4-1. Councilwoman Martin voted NO.
H. Appointment of one member to citizen Code Enforcement Board
due to resiqnation of Joan stronq
Councilman Jones made a motion to appoint Jeff Lange, seconded by
Councilman Hays.
Councilman Jones spoke about Mr. Lange serving on a board before.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
I. street Corrections/Capital Improvements proiect
city Manager McMahon made a brief presentation on this request.
City Engineer Kyle Fegley explained the problem and reason for
this request.
Councilwoman Martin asked if DRMP is giving us $5,000. Mr.
Fegley stated that is correct. City Manager McMahon stated he
would not accept the offer without the consensus of Council.
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There was a discussion on different types of shell being used on
the roads.
Mayor Hayman feels the site engineers should be able to tell if
there is going to be a problem. Mr. Fegley elaborated on Mayor
Hayman's concerns.
Councilman Mitchum would like DRMP to come before Council to
answer questions he has and any other Councilmembers have.
City Manager McMahon stated when this problem is brought back, he
feels this would be an excellent time to have DRMP come to answer
questions.
It was Council's consensus to not accept the $5,000 until further
discussion with DRMP.
Councilman Hays asked for a five-minute recess.
ORDINANCES, PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND RESOLUTIONS
FIRST READING:
A. Ord. 93-0-17 providinq for Cable Television Rate Requlation
consistent with Federal Communication commission requirements
City Manager McMahon gave a summary of his request.
Mayor Hayman read Ord. 93-0-17.
Councilman Jones made a motion to approve Ord. 93-0-17, seconded
by Councilwoman Martin.
Councilman Hays thanked City Manager McMahon for all his work
with this.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Res. 93-R-24 Authorizinq city Manaqer to file application
with Federal Communications commission to certify the City to
regulate Cable TV rates
Mayor Hayman read Res. 93-R-24.
Councilman Mitchum made a motion to approve Res. 93-R-24,
seconded by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
C. Res. 93-R-25 Authorizinq city Manaqer to file complaints
with Federal Communications Commission to initiate review of
reasonableness to upper tier cable TV rates
Mayor Hayman read Res. 93-R-25.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve Res. 93-R-25, seconded
by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
Councilman Hays mentioned looking at the feasibility of the
future using Cablevision as an enterprise fund. He feels there
is potential there. He asked Council for their support which he
was given.
SECOND READING:
(PUBLIC HEARING)
D. Appeal by John Phillips. aqent for Robert Curran. 510 South
Riverside Drive. of Land Development & Regulatory decision to
deny variance to construct screen room
John Phillips, 2532 vista Palm Drive, representative for Robert
Curran, introduced himself.
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Community Development Director Mark Karet briefed Council and
presented them with the history of this variance request. He
went over the criteria and the reason for the decision made by
the LDRA.
Mr. Karet answered questions presented by Council.
Mr. Phillips presented Mr. Curran's side of the case to Council.
Mr. Phillips passed out and explained drawings to Council.
Mr. Phillips answered questions presented by Council
Mr. Karet again answered questions presented by Council.
Mayor Hayman read the criteria from a memo from Mr. Karet to the
LDRA.
Councilman Jones asked questions concerning this matter.
Mayor Hayman stated he does not support this.
Councilwoman Martin expressed her feelings regarding the screen
room.
Councilman Hays stated neither Mr. Phillips nor Mr. Curran has
made a case with him. There were other options and alternatives.
Councilman Hays made a motion to deny this request, seconded by
Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 3-2. Councilman Jones
and Councilwoman Martin voted NO.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
A. city Enqineer's report on fencing of lift stations in Florida
Shores
City Manager McMahon stated the DER does require fences but there
are other options and other costs.
City Engineer Kyle Fegley gave his report. Mr. Fegley
distributed a list of alternatives to Council.
City Manager McMahon stated there are seven lift stations that
will be involved with this.
Mr. Fegley reported he has put a stop to any further erection of
fences in Florida Shores.
Mr. Fegley presented options to Council other than putting fences
around the lift stations.
There was further discussion on the lift stations that require
fencing around them.
Mr. Fegley answered questions presented by Council.
There was discussion about the barbed wire being put on the top
of the fences.
City Manager McMahon recommended letting Mr. Fegley get a hard
estimate from the contractor and come back with a change order
that allows us to modify the landscaping within the rationale the
Council wants and the requirements of the DEP.
Councilman Jones suggested writing a letter to DEP asking them to
reconsider the barbed wire because this is a residential
neighborhood.
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Councilman Mitchum asked what the feasibility would be to getting
DER or DEP to come up with some low profile grate system, an
expanded metal type system that is very supported. He feels
there have got to be alternatives.
Mr. Fegley stated he would look into the metal type system.
Mayor Hayman asked Mr. Fegley to report back at the next Council
meeting.
Bill Wells, 2503 Woodland Drive, suggested Council look at the
lift stations in Port Orange and other cities.
Councilman Mitchum stated it is going to depend on the decision
of DER or DEP as to what is done with these fences.
Gail Wells, 2503 Woodland Drive, asked to get a copy of where it
states a fence is required. City Manager McMahon asked City
Clerk Susan Wadsworth to provide Mrs. Wells with a copy.
Herbert Bachellor, 2432 Woodland Drive, feels the grate is the
best idea we have come up with so far. He stated electric can be
provided to the poles. He stated this would allow for a small
grate and no electrical on the road at all. He stated the fence
is only protecting the wells. He feels fences could be narrowed
just to the opening in the road.
Mr. Bachellor spoke about the authority of the City for the
blocking of these streets. He stated he was informed by his
Attorney, Mark Hall, the plat of Florida Shores states that these
are public roads only, not public rights-of-way.
City Attorney Storey does not agree with Mr. Hall's position on
this. She stated the City has the right to utilize these roads
as we see fit.
B. R. P. Davisworth Request for Thomas Avenue Riqht-of-Wav
city Attorney Storey gave Council a history of the Davisworth
request.
Captain Jeff Hawthorne, representing Mr. Davisworth, 1320 S.
Riverside Drive, spoke about the issues being combined. He
stated Mayor Hayman said they weren't going to go further with
the construction until something was worked out. He listed some
of the things that have and have not been done.
captain Hawthorne spoke about Mr. Wadsworth stating sewer may be
put in on Thomas Street in the future. He also spoke about
stormwater runoff.
Mayor Hayman questioned if we had a copy of the survey done by
Dan Cory showing 55 feet instead of 50 feet.
Councilman Mitchum asked if we are clear on Riverside Drive. He
was informed that has been taken care of.
City Attorney Storey stated she does not have a signed easement
as of yet from Mr. Davisworth. She stated they had an oral
agreement.
There was continued discussion on this matter.
Councilman Mitchum asked what they need to proceed with this.
City Attorney Storey informed them they need direction from
Council because she needs to come back with a resolution and
vacation.
City Attorney Storey spoke about abandoning a right-of-way.
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Mayor Hayman stated he would like to see the survey. He
suggested bringing this back as a package.
Captain Hawthorne stated he would bring this back as a written
request with the survey.
C. Appointment of one member to Parks & Recreation Board to
replace Georqe Childs (Tabled 9/20/93)
Councilman Jones made a motion to appoint Larry Lamb, seconded by
Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
D. Appointment of one member to Beautification & Tree Committee
due to expiration of term of Carol Miller (Tabled 9/20/93)
Councilman Hays made a motion to appoint Kathleen Spellman,
seconded by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
COUNCIL/OFFICERS REPORTS
city Attorney
City Attorney Storey had nothing at this time.
city Manaqer
City Manager McMahon had nothing at this time.
city Council
Councilman Jones
Councilman Jones had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Martin
Councilwoman Martin had nothing at this time.
councilman Hays
Councilman Hays spoke about enclaves. He asked Mark bring back
as soon as possible all enclaves in the city. He stated he would
like to deal with this issue and take action on this now.
Councilman Hays spoke about changing around the format of the
agenda. He would like to see Council Comments to come before or
after citizen Comments at the beginning of the meeting. He asked
Council to consider this matter.
Councilman Hays spoke about a letter from R. Elzner, Jr. in
reference to a united Taxpayers of Edgewater information
bulletin. He stated he had questions on some of the comments
made in this bulletin. He spoke about turning it over to the
State Attorney.
City Manager McMahon stated he planned on taking a reprint from
the last newsletter and including it as a special insert into the
next newsletter in November.
There was continued discussion about the bulletin.
Councilman Mitchum
Councilman Mitchum had nothing at this time.
Mayor Hayman
Mayor Hayman had nothing at this time.
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Questions from Press
There were no questions from the press at this time.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
There were no citizen comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Councilman Mitchum made a motion
to adjourn, seconded by Councilman Hays. The meeting adjourned
at 11:08 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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