08-21-1995 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 21, 1995
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Hayman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Jack Hayman
Councilman Danny Hatfield
Councilwoman Louise Martin
Councilman Michael Hays
Councilman David Mitchum
City Attorney Krista storey
City Manager George McMahon
city Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
Present
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The invocation was delivered by Rev. Campagnone, retired Roman
Catholic priest. There was a pledge of allegiance to the Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Reqular Meetinq of Auqust 7. 1995
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve the August 7, 1995
minutes, second by Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY
(Other than public hearinqs)
There were no citizen comments at this time.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Martin
Councilwoman Martin had nothing at this time.
councilman Havs
Councilman Hays had nothing at this time.
Councilman Mitchum
Councilman Mitchum had nothing at this time.
Mavor Havman
Mayor Hayman had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hatfield
Councilman Hatfield had nothing at this time.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
Mayor Hayman commented on a request from City Attorney storey to
change the agenda slightly to help accommodate any questions from
the bond counsel.
There were no objections to hearing presentations regarding Res.
95-R-13 or 95-R-14.
City Attorney storey explained the need for Res. 95-R-13 and Res.
95-R-14 being to amend resolutions previously adopted by Council
relative to the financing for the road improvement project.
City Attorney storey informed Council they will be closing on the
financing for Part A tomorrow.
City Attorney storey explained 95-R-13 conforms Resolution 95-R-
09 that Council adopted in July to the specific provisions of the
bid that was accepted from First Union.
City Attorney storey explained 95-R-14 ratifies the award of the
bid that was made to First Union by the City Manager and Finance
Director. copies of the certificate of award, the bid tabulation
and the actual bond document are attached to the resolution. She
commented on Exhibit A which is the repayment schedule which is
reduced from what was originally proposed.
city Attorney Storey informed Council, Robert Freeman, the City's
bond counsel, was available to take any questions.
Mayor Hayman read 95-R-13.
Councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve Res. 95-R-13, second
by Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Hayman read 95-R-14.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve Res. 95-R-14, second
by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
A. First readinq Ord. No. 95-0-11 Increasinq monthly recvclinq
fee bv fifty cents
City Manager McMahon briefed Council on the need for an
additional $.50 increase and his recommendation being to approve
Ord. 95-0-11.
Mayor Hayman read Ord. 95-0-11.
Mayor Hayman recognized a long term agreement contract that we
have with Southards Recycling. He commented on the sterling and
outstanding job that has been done.
Mayor Hayman stated the City has been subsidizing the cost by
almost $.40 and the city can no longer continue to subsidize it.
Mayor Hayman hopes to, in the near future, sit down with
Southards and arrive at an agreement where the City could derive
some benefit from the profit or help to free costs from the
profit associated with the resale of the recyclables. He hopes
to look to ways that will defray such costs by having some kind
of rebate back to the City as the market improves.
Councilman Hays feels the City is making an investment with the
recycling. He commented on everything being put in the recycling
bins not being taken to the landfill.
councilwoman Martin made a motion to approve Ord. 95-0-11, second
by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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B. First readinq Ord. No. 95-0-12 Establishinq requlations for
outside storage of vehicles. equipment and materials
Mayor Hayman read Ord. 95-0-12.
city Attorney storey explained why this issue is being brought
before Council. She commented on this being brought before the
Code Enforcement Board on a fairly regular basis and becoming
more so. She has become aware of some inconsistencies within the
ordinance and other zoning regulations.
city Attorney Storey commented on the proposed changes in Ord.
95-0-12.
community Development Director Mark Karet further commented on
the need for Ord. 95-0-12.
Councilman Hays questioned if canvas covers meet the criteria.
Mr. Karet explained this is asking for screened areas, not
coverings.
Councilman Hays explained there are vehicles covered with canvas
throughout the City and not being able to tell if there is a
license plate on the car. Mr. Karet stated there are many of
those in the City and those are not being complained about.
Councilman Hays questioned Page 1, Section 1101.01, where it
states from any public right of way.
Councilman Hays would be more comfortable being able to review
this some more. He asked that this be placed on the table until
he has an opportunity to do that.
Councilman Hatfield commented on commercial uses and being able
to store landscaping and gardening supplies in front of the
business. He questioned if the McGregor's will still be able to
keep the rental equipment in front of the business under the
proposed ordinance. Mr. Karet explained this is referring to
anything that would be typically used outdoors.
Councilman Hatfield spoke about his garage being in front but to
the side of his house. He questioned his trailer being kept
beside his barn in front of his house but to the side of his
barn. Is he in violation. Mr. Karet questioned if the trailer
is licensed. Councilman Hatfield informed him it is licensed.
Mr. Karet stated there would be no violation unless it was not
licensed and completely inoperable.
Councilman Hatfield commented on a salvage business down the
street from his house. He spoke about vehicles in front of the
business that are unlicensed. He questioned if they are
considered used cars under this ordinance or are they permitted.
Mr. Karet explained there are a couple of issues that this
raises. Council has to make a decision on how they want to deal
with existing uses that might be in violation of this code in
terms of grandfathering them in.
Councilman Hays moved to table, second by Councilman Mitchum.
Councilman Mitchum stated he supports the ordinance and he
supports Councilman Hays wanting to table this ordinance.
Councilman Mitchum commented on being able to register a car
without getting a license tag.
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Mayor Hayman agreed with Councilman Mitchum. He stated he would
like section 1101.02 to include such office uses as Winnebagos
used on construction sites.
Mayor Hayman questioned section 1101.03B. He expressed concern
about the rental people across the street. He commented on auto
repair businesses having to wait for parts before vehicles can be
fixed. He expressed concern with them having to put up a screen.
Mayor Hayman commented on section 1101.03D where it states limit
of anyone product or model. He spoke about businesses who sell
pools, spas or lawn furniture and only being able to display one
item such as one chair, one umbrella and one table.
Mayor Hayman commented on automotive repair places selling cars
and he questioned if that type of business will be affected.
Mayor Hayman commented on section 1101.04B. He commented on
equipment and material being secured to withstand winds. He
feels this is an ambiguous statement. You need to be a little
more precise about how many miles per hour winds we have to
withstand.
Councilman Hays feels these items being brought up can be
discussed further at another meeting.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
C. Res. No. 95-R-11 Establishing a procedure for ex parte
communication with city officials
Mayor Hayman read Res. 95-R-11.
City Attorney Storey briefed Council on Res. 95-R-11 and how this
was brought about. She commented on a bill that was passed in
the legislature which based on certain procedures being followed
would remove the presumption that there was prejudice. This bill
established procedures which would allow public officials to
communicate with constituents so long as that communication is
disclosed on the record prior to a decision being made.
City Attorney Storey explained what would be able to be done
under Res. 95-R-11. This provides a process but this does not
require any City official to engage in ex parte communication.
Councilman Hatfield presented an example of what if a member of a
Board votes against something but it isn't clear in the minutes
why, does he have the right to discuss this with the member as
long as he goes through the proper procedure. city Attorney
Storey explained as long as it is disclosed on the record.
City Attorney Storey stated the real emphasis is the constituents
who have been unable to discuss these types of issues.
Councilman Hays expressed concern on this causing problems. City
Attorney Storey explained this does not obligate Council to
engage in ex parte communication, it just provides a process.
Councilman Hays asked why City Attorney storey feels they need to
do a resolution on this. city Attorney Storey explained because
it gives you an option. otherwise without doing this, you do not
have the option. There will continue to be a presumption of
prejudice if the Council engages in ex parte communication.
Mayor Hayman presented his understanding of the matter being
discussed and the procedure that needs to be followed.
City Attorney Storey elaborated on Mayor Hayman's presentation.
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Councilwoman Martin asked if they would still have the option to
meet or not meet with someone. City Attorney storey again
explained this does not obligate Council.
There was a brief discussion regarding site visits.
Councilman Mitchum made a motion to approve Res. 95-R-11, second
by Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
D. Res. No. 95-R-12 Extinquishinq drainaqe easements on Lot
15136. Block 491 and Lot 15152. Block 492. Florida Shores
City Attorney Storey explained the reason for this request. There
is an existence of a drainage easement covering Lot 15136 which
would keep an individual from utilizing the lot for building
which is the requested use.
City Attorney Storey explained city Engineer Fegley discovered
there is a similar drainage easement on Lot 15152 and it also
covers the entire lot. That lot has a home built on it and is
within the existing drainage easement. To assist a future sale
of that property, staff's position would be to vacate and
extinguish that easement as well.
Judy Elliott, Associated Land Title, explained how this drainage
easement was discovered.
Mayor Hayman read Res. 95-R-12.
Councilman Hays feels it would be a benefit to the city to bring
these forward and deal with them. He sees no reason to not
approve any of these because it is to the benefit of the City to
be able to develop a lot, tax them and build houses on them. He
asked if this whole issue can be dealt with at one time or if
each one has to be addressed individually.
city Attorney Storey stated they may need to identify the
specific parcels and then maybe do a blanket resolution listing
those parcels.
Ms. Elliott stated from a title standpoint, it is going to be
cleaner and purer than it has been in the past with these blanket
sort of things and who is going to bear the expense of someone to
do the research.
Councilman Hays questioned how many of these they will see. Ms.
Elliott didn't know.
city Attorney Storey explained although the resolution points out
that on Lot 15136, staff's recommendation is to extinguish that
entire drainage easement, on Lot 15152, the City Engineer has
requested that the city retain 20' of that due to the canal.
city Attorney Storey briefly commented on recording costs.
Councilman Hatfield questioned if there is a house on Lot 15152
and would this 20' impact that house at all. city Attorney
Storey stated it looks like the structure is certainly more than
20' away from the drainage easement. city Engineer Fegley stated
that is correct.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve Res. 95-R-12, second
by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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CONSENT AGENDA
A. Transfer of $1,000 from Special Law Enforcement Trust Fund
into General Fund to help offset some DARE proqram costs
B. Aqreement with Professional Services, Inc. (PSI) to provide
geotechnical and materials testinq services for Florida Shores
Roadway Improvement proiect
C. Addendum Number 3 to continuinq service aqreement with
Quentin L. Hampton Associates, Inc.
Mayor Hayman commented on a change in the verbiage in the PSI
agreement, paragraph 4A.
City Attorney Storey spoke about comments received by the City
Engineer from PSI in reference to the agreement. If Council
authorizes, they will proceed to negotiate out the non-
substantive items on the agreement in fairness to both parties.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve the consent agenda,
second by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
There was a five-minute recess at this time.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Award of bid for seawall cap at Kennedy Park to Daytona Dock
and Seawall Service with change work order
Parks and Recreation Director Jack Corder made a presentation
regarding the need for a replacement seawall cap at Kennedy Park.
He explained he noticed a section that was not included in the
bid so he asked for a price on that which is a result of the
change work order for an additional $1,700. The total amount
being $18,200. This is in the budget and there is a 50/50 Port
Authority matching grant for this.
Mayor Hayman commented on the detailed drawings of the project.
It doesn't say what the PSI rating is for the concrete. Mr.
Corder stated it would be 3,000 PSI.
Mayor Hayman commented on the six inch thick sidewalk. He
commented on there being no mesh or any type of rebar, no
construction joint details and no expansion joint details with
the cap. The plans also show no expansion patrol joints for the
cap. continuous rebar throughout the cap is going to be a
problem with the expansion and contraction. On the tie backs, he
would like to see steel going from the tie back to the cap
encased in PVC pipe but it is showing it as epoxy coated but even
epoxy coated steel will rust out. If you sleeve it with PVC you
don't have that problem.
Mr. Corder stated he would contact the contractor and get back to
Council on that. It would probably require an additional change
order.
Mayor Hayman asked why they are going with a six inch walk rather
than a four inch walk. Mr. Corder stated to replace the existing
walk that is already there. It was felt to be appropriate to
have the stronger and deeper walkway.
Mayor Hayman explained why he does not agree with that.
Mayor Hayman stated he would like to see control joints in the
steel and cap or you are going to have a hot day expansion and it
is going to blow it right out.
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Mayor Hayman stated they need to have some sort of control joints
in the slabs as well.
city Manager McMahon stated the expansion joints and other things
were discussed this morning. He agreed with Mayor Hayman. He
feels we need to be conscience that very likely this will be a
higher price but he would rather do it right or not do it.
City Manager McMahon asked Mr. Corder to take this under
advisement and they would sit down with City Engineer Fegley in
the morning. He stated he would like to use this as a basis for
issuing the contract but on the other hand there could be
substantial changes and will probably have to be rebid.
Mayor Hayman stated on sleeving the tiebacks that shouldn't be a
substantial change. On the control joints in the wall that
shouldn't be a problem because he can't make a continuous pour
anyway.
Mayor Hayman suggested negotiating these items of concern.
Mr. Corder stated the expansion joints on the sidewalk are cut in
every ten foot sections after the concrete is poured.
Mayor Hayman explained why he does not want that done.
City Manager McMahon asked Council to approve this with the
modifications that were discussed.
Councilman Mitchum made a motion to approve this based on the
Mayor's comments, second by Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED
5-0.
B. Replacement of Finance Department Computer System
Finance Director Fred Munoz gave a presentation on the need for a
new computer system due to the current system being outdated.
There was a discussion regarding the funding mechanism.
Councilman Mitchum asked where the figures are coming from. Is
this a bid amount? Mr. Munoz informed him it was under state
contract.
Councilman Hatfield moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
C. Appointment to Parks and Recreation Board due to resiqnation
of Paul Alvord, whose term had expired.
Councilman Hatfield moved to appoint Erwin Brown, second by
Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
D. Cancellinq or reschedulinq reqular meetinq of Monday,
September 4, 1995, due to Labor Day holiday
Councilman Hays made a motion to cancel the September 4, 1995
meeting, second by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Inez Walker, 3307 Victory Palm Drive, questioned the PSI going to
cost $300,000 to inspect the pavement as the roads are paved.
Mayor Hayman stated the inspection contract for the entire
project will cost $300,000.
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Ms. Walker questioned how many roads would be worked on at one
time. city Manager McMahon stated he couldn't answer that
without seeing the schedule from the contractor. He explained
the earth moving will be done first and then they will do the
base work.
There was a discussion regarding the cost of the inspectors being
so high.
Ms. Walker commented on witnessing a house fire on pine Tree
Drive. The firemen arrived fully clothed and sat in a circle on
the lawn and watched the house burn because they couldn't get any
water. Who put the wastewater in and didn't have the sense to
hook up fire hydrants to it.
City Manager McMahon informed her that is illegal because that
water comes from the water supply plant and you can't co-mix that
water with the reuse water. The pressure we need and the water
supply we need on a continuing basis cannot be provided to the
same system.
Ms. Walker feels the money that was going to be used for a new
firehouse should be used for fire hydrants.
city Manager McMahon asked Ms. Walker to contact him. She said
she left a message this afternoon and he is supposed to get in
touch with her tomorrow.
There was further discussion regarding what happened the night of
the house fire.
city Manager McMahon invited Ms. Walker to speak with him and
Chief Vola. He informed her he would contact her in the morning
and schedule the meeting.
Mayor Hayman asked again for Ms. Walker's name. City Manager
McMahon asked for her phone number.
OFFICER REPORTS
city Attorney
city Attorney Storey had nothing at Othis time.
city Manaqer
City Manager McMahon reported on the rates
us which he is discussing with the County.
oanswerto present to Council after Friday.
an answer, he would have a recommendation.
for the water south of
He expects to have an
If he does not have
city Manager McMahon commented on a discussion he had with the
new County Manager.
city Clerk
city Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman Hatfield
moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:58 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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