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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR 'VEETING
JULY L' 1995
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Hayman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Jack Hayman
Councilman Danny Hatfield
Councilwoman Louise Martin
Councilman Michael Hays
Councilman David Mitchum
city Attorney Krista storey
City Manager George McMahon
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The invocation was delivered by Reverend Boldt, Edgewater
Alliance Church. There was a pledge of allegiance to the Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Reqular Meetinq of June 19. 1995
City Clerk Wadsworth informed Council on page 2 under Article A,
The motion CARRIED 5-0 was left out but it is reflected in the
original minutes.
Councilman Hatfield moved for approval with that correction,
second by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY
(Other than pUblic hearinqs)
Mayor Hayman asked for a special exception to allow some special
guests to speak but not regarding an agenda item. He explained
vic Vandergrifft and Susan Goodrich would comment on the matter
of the net ban initiative in the area.
There were no objections from Council.
vic Vandergrifft commented on trying to help the displaced
commercial fishermen. He asked that a contribution be made to
the net ban fund. New Smyrna Beach donated $1,000 to that fund
and he requested Edgewater match it. He introduced Susan
Goodrich and stated Barbara Cox was also present from the united
Way as well as Peggy Wolsfelt, a business woman from New Smyrna
Beach.
Susan Goodrich presented her background in the fishing industry.
She explained due to the constitutional amendment passed November
8, 1994, the commercial fisherman of the State of Florida are all
out of a job. She commented on legislative bill 1317 providing
for retraining and re-education of the commercial fishermen. She
asked the Council to help the fishermen this affects in
Edgewater.
Mayor Hayman asked the amount that has to be met by each
fisherman. Ms. Goodrich explained each fisherman has the
opportunity to qualify for 26 weeks. Each 13 weeks is $189.
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Councilman Hatfield asked Finance Director Munoz how much is in
the fund used for donations. Mr. Munoz explained their fund had
been depleted.
City Manager McMahon stated on the contingency in the budget, not
much has been expended from that. If a transfer was made to the
contributions fund of the Council from that, that could be
accomplished that way.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to donate $1,000, second by
Councilman Hays.
Councilman Hays stated he understands the people's rights who
placed this on the ballot last fall but he feels the ball dropped
in not providing a better umbrella for the people affected by it.
Mr. Vandergrifft commented on restaurants and fish markets being
affected. They are going to screen the neediest of the needy for
these funds because they won't have much to work with.
Mr. Vandergrifft stated anyone who wanted to donate any amount to
the fund, they could make their check payable to united Way Net
Ban Fund which could be dropped off at the united Way Building,
515 Canal street. He stated they are also looking for staple
goods to help feed these families.
Councilman Hays asked this information be included in the next
newsletter.
city Manager McMahon stated the next newsletter would be out in
August and if there is something special they would like written
up to get it to him.
Mayor Hayman commented on a report in the newspaper about the
shortcoming of the money. He hopes the community will pull
together and helps these unfortunate individuals.
Mr. Vandergrifft stated he is not a commercial fisherman. He is
retired from the state Department of Juvenile Justice.
City Manager asked in the motion that the contingency fund be
designated as the area the money will come from in the budget.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
City Manager McMahon asked Mr. Vandergrifft to get an article to
him as soon as possible.
Joann Heeb, 115 N. Riverside Drive, expressed concern regarding
the proposed 29.4% increase in the taxes to cover the capital
funds improvement. Every time an estimate is made on the
improvements, you seem to make drastic mistakes which you cover
up by increasing taxes. How much do you think we can take? She
is very alarmed and angry by this. She doesn't feel the Council
is considering the entire City.
Tom Kane, 2031 S. Riverside Drive, feels the same way as Ms.
Heeb. He stated he went to City Hall six to eight weeks ago
asking to have a streetlight installed for four different
residences.
Mr. Kane commented on the people in Florida Shores purchasing
cheap lots on dirt streets with no sewer. Now the rest of the
town has to take up the slack for them.
Mr. Kane stated he was informed today there was no way he could
have a streetlight. I pay my fair share of taxes and when you
ask for something that small and can't get it and then the City
asks him to pay the increase in taxes. Something is not right.
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Mayor Hayman agreed to help Mr. Kane find out why he cannot get a
streetlight.
Mr. Kane commented on reuse water on Riverside Drive. He was
told they will probably never get it there. He feels the people
in Florida Shores are benefitting from it and their assessments
should be raised on their property so they can pay their fair
share.
Cliff Clark, 1818 Evergreen Drive, spoke on the history of paving
back to 1983. He feels this is too much to put on the taxpayers
back.
Mr. Clark spoke about paying his assessment up front and stated
he understands Evergreen Drive is included in the last section to
be paved and he might not be around to see it paved.
Mr. Clark commented on paving 12th Street and Willow Oak Drive
first. He asked Council to think about the heavy trucks that
will be traveling on the newly paved road.
Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, asked if raising the taxes tonight
will be discussed or will it be done at budget time.
Mayor Hayman explained they would be talking about a tentative
millage figure and establishing the highest possible ad valorem
tax figure.
Ms. Hill is in favor of the road paving but she didn't think the
taxes were going to go up. She thought the $3 extra was supposed
to pay for the City's share of the 1/3, 1/3, and 1/3. She
thought over the last year money was being put into a fund and
now there is no money.
Councilman Mitchum explained the $3 extra was not to pay the
City's share. The $3 extra was supposed to pay for stormwater
improvements because they were separated from the paving.
Mayor Hayman stated back in January they deliberated and
discussed the necessity to increase the stormwater and they also
talked about the shortfall in funding the project at the
preliminary cost. That shortfall was in the neighborhood of
$408,000. It was discussed that was the amount of money that the
taxpayers of Edgewater across the board would have to meet. They
also discussed the savings that would be garnered from
eliminating the east-west and north-south streets that are
scraped.
City Manager McMahon explained the City has gone back on more
than one occasion to try to reduce the cost. He spoke about the
annual debt service and increasing the millage rate. They will
not know the ultimate effect on the general fund until these bids
are reviewed and approved by Council.
Ms. Hill feels the City should pull in their reins on spending
and put every cent they can get their hands on on the roads and
get them finished.
Dominick capria, 606 Topside Circle, agreed with Ms. Hill that
the $3 stormwater fee and the approximate $200,000 savings on the
shell roads would pay for the City's cost.
Mr. capria read part of a letter he received back in 1990 from
his developer. He feels residents of Florida Shores purchased
their lots at a reduced price because improvements were not
included and they should pay for their utilities the way he had
to pay for his.
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He feels if the Council votes for an increase in taxes they are
not representing all of the people in Edgewater.
Ben Vasquez, 2807 Needle Palm Drive, stated he is concerned about
what he has heard. People are knocking Florida Shores as though
we are a separate entity.
Mr. Vasquez stated Florida Shores is indeed the City of Edgewater
and as such everyone is responsible to pave the roads in Florida
Shores.
Mr. Vasquez spoke about the people of Florida Shores having to
pay the assessment up front due to money not being allocated to
pave the roads which in his opinion is illegal. He feels the
whole City should have been taxed and then a certain amount of
that money allocated for roads in Florida Shores.
Mr. Vasquez feels the City has been split in half. He doesn't
feel it is fair or right to have Florida Shores pay for all of
the paving.
Mr. Vasquez stated he is sure and as positive as he can be that
the sewer program is illegal and this tax is nothing but a cover
up to make it appear that the entire city contributed towards
Florida Shores.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Hatfield
Councilman Hatfield had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Martin
Councilwoman Martin had nothing at this time.
Mayor Havman
Mayor Hayman had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hays
Councilman Hays commented on soliciting donations from New Smyrna
Beach for the 4th of July fireworks. He was presented with New
Smyrna Beach's contribution to the fireworks next year in the
amount of two cents. He asked this be put in the budget for next
year.
Councilman Hays commented on the articles in the newspaper
regarding Volusia County's position on the Water Co-op. He hoped
if anyone had concerns they would express those to the County
Councilmembers. He is not happy with some of the dialogue he has
read in the newspapers.
Councilman Hays spoke about emergency medical services and the
right of cities to transport patients. He feels cities should be
able to transport or at least be reimbursed by the ambulance
service for the emergency medical staff that ride on the
ambulances to the hospital on a routine basis.
Councilman Hays would like to see the Council and City Manager
enter into some dialogue with the County powers that be to
address this. He asked for Council's support on this issue.
Mayor Hayman stated Mayor Jim Ward of Port Orange at the last
VCOG meeting asked that each of the cities consider doing
Councilman Hays' suggestion. He feels Councilman Hays would be
the best person in our City to help spearhead this to help
formulate a position.
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Mayor Hayman stated the County Council has been very receptive to
going back to re-look at this.
Councilman Hays stated a few years ago we really didn't have the
qualified staff on hand to deal with the patient load but that is
not the case now.
Councilman Hays agreed to help with this matter.
Councilman Mitchum
Councilman Mitchum had nothing at this time.
city Attornev
city Attorney storey had nothing at this time.
city Manaqer
City Manager McMahon explained that we are preparing to go into
the budget discussions. He asked Council by consensus if they
wish to go out for bid to consider any private enterprise
services to do the services the City is now doing. The typical
and most appropriate probably is in the area of our sanitation or
trash pickup. He explained there is a lead time that is
necessary to get appropriate bids in and compare it to City's
cost.
city Manager McMahon asked Council if they wish to look at this
or not.
Mayor Hayman stated several weeks ago he suggested that solid
waste would be an area that needed to be looked at. We can't
focus solely on residential waste. The commercial waste has to
be combined as well. He feels the City is doing what we can do
with the resources in the most cost effective and efficient
manner. If the expenses of providing the levels of service to
the community rise, then the city must look at other measures.
Mayor Hayman stated there are three courses of actions: 1) to
raise taxes, 2) cut back levels of service or 3) privatize.
Councilman Hays stated one of the things the Council has worked
very hard on over the past few years is the quality of service
provided for solid waste. They are starting to see people
putting garbage out instead of throwing it on vacant lots and
dumping it in canals. He does not feel privatizing will be a
good service. The City owns its own equipment. He is not
interested in privatizing.
Councilwoman Martin stated for a few years when she moved here
she was serviced by a contractor and it was very bad service.
She feels the public service has been perfected since then and we
should stay with the City.
Councilman Hatfield feels they should look at the financial
concerns. He feels they should give more than five minutes worth
of discussion to this matter. His problem is the timing. He
feels it is something that should be looked at but this is not
the proper time.
Councilman Mitchum shared Councilman Hatfield's views. He also
feels the timing is bad. He would not support this at this time.
Mayor Hayman commented on the Ormond Beach contract and them just
changing over to a private entity. He feels they would be remiss
if they didn't look at privatization.
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Councilman Hatfield suggested staff look at Ormond Beach and
other cities and see what they are getting from their contracts
and bring it back to Council within the next two weeks.
City Manager McMahon stated likely he would not be able to put it
together much before the budget workshop due to the first meeting
being in August. He agreed to bring it back to Council during
the workshop.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. Public hearinq re: request to transfer control of
Cablevision Industries of Central Florida. Inc. to Time Warner
Inc.
city Attorney storey explained the reason for this transfer
request.
Mayor Hayman read Res. 95-R-10.
Mayor Hayman opened the public hearing.
Rich Gunter, Director of Government Relations for the Florida
Region of Cablevision Industries, 1655 SR 472, Deland, explained
Cablevision and Time Warner are merging. The franchise will
remain with Cablevision Industries but the control of the
franchise will eventually fall to Time Warner Inc. The rates
will remain the same.
Councilman Hays asked how much money is made from this. Mr.
Munoz stated $45,000 a year which is 3% of the cable franchise.
Councilman Hays questioned why the City can't run their own cable
services. He feels they need to start thinking along those
lines. This could be used as a revenue source.
Councilman Mitchum asked how long this contract is for. City
Attorney storey stated we have a fifteen year franchise agreement
which was executed in 1984 so it would expire in 1999.
Mayor Hayman spoke about the Internet and the use of fiberoptic
in the living room and within the next year at Volusia County you
are going to have public information network and government
information network and then probably within eighteen to twenty-
four months there is no reason it can't be going through your
lines. What is the possibility of that?
Mr. Gunter explained when Cablevision Industries rebuilt its
system over here, its backbone system was built using fiberoptic
technology. The backbone that is set up over here could support
any type of system like that. He further explained Time Warner
is experimenting with a full service network that provides more
services than just cable television.
Mayor Hayman stated he was going to save Time Warner several
hundreds of millions of dollars by them coming to Edgewater and
introduce the experiment here with very little cost.
Mayor Hayman closed the public hearing.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to accept Res. 95-R-10, second
by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 3-2. Councilman Hays
and Councilman Mitchum voted NO.
There was a five-minute recess at this time.
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B. Res. 95-R-09 Reaardina Financina of the Florida Shores Road
Improvement proiect
City Attorney Storey explained the purpose of this resolution is
to authorize the City Manager and Finance Director to go forward
with the financing in terms of either a bond issue or the bank
qualified loan.
City Attorney Storey introduced Sandy MacLennan, Squire, Sanders
& Dempsey.
city Attorney Storey commented on the changes in Res. 95-R-09.
The staff recommendation is to adopt Res. 95-R-09 so the process
could go forward in terms of the proposals of financing.
Mayor Hayman read Res. 95-R-09.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve Res. 95-R-09, second by
Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Police Chief's request to purchase computers. monitors and
printers from Law Enforcement Trust Fund
B. FEC agreement authorizina citv to lower invert elevation of
five existinq culvert pipes within FEC riaht-of-way north of Park
Ave. and East of Manao Tree Drive
C. ICMA Retirement Corporation 401A Plan IRS compliance
amendments
D. Confirm Special Council Meetina on Thursdav. Julv 27. 1995.
at 7:00 p.m. in Community Center for award of bids for Florida
Shores road improvement proiect
Councilman Hays asked Chief Schumaker if these computers are
compatible with the system that we bought into at CET. Chief
Schumaker informed him they were.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve the consent agenda,
second by Councilman Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Status report of road improvement proiect bids and consensus
of maximum proposed millaae rate
city Manager McMahon explained the proposed maximum millage rate
is the amount necessary to accommodate possibilities for awarding
the final bid on the road project. We feel the bids will be able
to be reduced somewhat as a result of discussion with the
consulting engineers. He went on to comment on the road
improvement project bids.
Councilman Hatfield made a motion to approve, second by
Councilman Hays. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Enaineerina proposal from Hartman and Associates to respond
to Dept. of Environmental Protection's request for additional
information for wastewater treatment plant operatinq permit.
which is impact fee eliqible
City Manager McMahon corrected what he believed may be some
misinformation and that is he is requesting they spend $28,000.
He would rather they didn't have to spend a penny but this is a
required study, not a requested study.
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utilities Director Terry Wadsworth explained the request from DEP
for additional information for the wastewater treatment plant
operating permit. He commented on the hour breakdown for the
engineers in their proposal on Page 5.
Mr. Wadsworth introduced Hal Schmidt from Hartman and Associates.
Hal was with DRMP at the time we went through part of this
process and is the primary designer for the treatment plant we
have now. He has been through the development of the entire
project up to this point of application.
Hal Schmidt, Hartman and Associates, explained the study was
something that came up recently through legislation. There is no
specific criteria that DEP is looking for. He commented on the
scope of the proposal.
Mr. Schmidt stated he had Tom Odham with him who is a Water
Quality Specialist who would be doing most of the work for them.
Mr. Schmidt went on to explain they are basically reducing the
load to the river. All they are looking for is to be granted the
30% discharge to the river.
Councilman Hays asked what volume is being put into the river
now. Mr. Schmidt stated they are putting in less than 30% on an
annual average basis.
Councilman Hays asked over the past year, how many instances have
we had where that 30% has been hit. Mr. Schmidt explained during
the rainy season.
Councilman Hays asked if DEP has any evidence that what we are
doing is making a negative environmental impact on the ecosystem
in the river today.
Councilman Hays stated he doesn't understand why they are
spending $28,000 to someone in Tallahassee who doesn't know what
he wants. Mr. Schmidt explained it is due to the recent
legislation.
There was a brief discussion regarding what would happen if the
city didn't obtain this permit.
Councilman Mitchum questioned if we are the only entity being
required to do this. Mr. Schmidt explained there are other
entities but Edgewater will be the first City along the Indian
River.
Mayor Hayman would like to see a letter written expressing our
concerns. He feels we are doing excellent as far as the effluent
being dumped into the river over a year period.
Councilman Hays had a problem with being left to prepare a
document that has is no criteria.
Councilman Mitchum stated they may be better off to go ahead and
do this and then protest the fact that this is coming about. He
feels to deliberately antagonize this same entity might be
harmful to us.
Mr. Wadsworth explained when you get to the third stage of the
study that is only 30 hours and that is when it is submitted, and
if possible then we go ahead and sit down with them and express
the City's concerns at this point.
Mayor Hayman feels this is an opportunity for an engineering firm
and city staff to point out to them how ridiculous this is to us
and possibly suggest some standards they could use.
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City Manager McMahon asked Council to remember during budget time
he doesn't like $28,000 studies.
Councilman Mitchum made a motion to approve reluctantly, second
by Councilwoman Martin. The motion CARRIED 4-1. Councilman Hays
voted NO.
C. Award of bid to Davis Meter and SupplY Co. of Orlando for
Palm Breeze water line materials
Mr. Wadsworth commented on taking a look at doing in house the
water line in Palm Breeze. He asked Council to approve this
amount so they may order the materials at an amount of $12,554.60
and get started with the project.
Councilman Hays made a motion to approve, second by Councilman
Mitchum. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
D. First Union National Bank Master Agreement and authorization
for city Manaqer to siqn aqreement
Councilman Hays moved for approval, second by Councilman
Hatfield.
city Attorney Storey stated this needs to read authorization for
the Mayor to sign the agreement as opposed to the City Manager.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
E. Discussion of Economic Development Board's suqqestion to
recoqnize Coronado Paint Company for excellence in recent plant
expansion
Philip Fong, Chairman, EDB, explained this is pursuant to
Recommendation #4 of the Business Climate and Supplier Linkage
Study. He feels there is good opportunity to recognize Coronado
Paint in their recent expansion of their plant.
Mr. Fong asked Council to consider adopting the proclamation of
excellence as a formal award entity, to approve Coronado Paint as
the recipient of the award, and to determine a date for the award
presentation.
Councilman Hatfield moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Martin. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
August 7th was the date decided on to award the proclamation.
F. Desiqnation of votinq deleqate at Florida Leaque of cities
Annual Convention at Kissimmee August 17 - 19. 1995
Councilman Hays nominated Councilwoman Martin, second by
Councilman Hatfield. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Tom Kane, 2031 S. Riverside Drive, asked why on Ocean Avenue the
one ton limit signs were taken down.
City Manager McMahon stated Ocean Avenue was never technically
directed by the Council in ordinance to have the weight limit on
it of one ton. The signs were never erected legally.
There was a brief discussion regarding which signs need to be
erected by ordinance.
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Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, commented on an article that was in
the newspaper titled "Law strikes Down Limits on Ex-Parte
Interaction." She called Mr. McMahon and asked him to see that
Council got a copy of the article. She did not appreciate this.
She commented on an LDRA meeting she attended. She was not
satisfied with the way that meeting went.
Ms. Hill spoke about not being able to talk to the Mayor. She
feels they have been dictated to by Mr. Karet and by City
Attorney Storey.
Ms. Hill stated when Mayor Hayman got back to her he informed her
there was going to be a small change made in the format but there
really isn't anything wrong with it. There was something wrong
with it and there has been all along. The legislature has
changed that. How come we didn't know about it. She asked that
this be looked into.
City Attorney Storey explained the article she is referring to
deals only with the ex-parte communication, it does not deal with
the process of a quasi-judicial proceeding. Those are two
separate issues. The new legislation allows the City to develop
a process where the ex-parte communication can be relaxed. The
Council would be required to disclose any information. We can
make that change. The bill was adopted sometime after the middle
of June. That does not deal with the process or designation of
small scale rezoning as quasi-judicial.
City Attorney Storey stands firmly behind the procedures that
were followed to protect the City's legal interest. She informed
Council a resolution would be brought before them for their
consideration.
Ms. Hill also asked Council to consider looking at the B-4 Zoning
at the end of Boston Road. That is the only B-4 zone in this
City and it is causing a problem.
OFFICER REPORTS
Councilman Hays commented on bringing an ordinance to Council
regarding tobacco use by minors. He commented on the Food and
Drug Administration taking the position that nicotine should be
treated as a drug. He would like to wait and see how this falls
out on a federal level before he brings anything before Council.
There were no other officer reports.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman Mitchum
moved to adjourn, second by Councilman Hays. The meeting
adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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