10-19-2009 - Regular
CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 19, 2009
6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
1.
Mayor Thomas called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Michael Thomas Present
Councilwoman Debra Rogers Excused
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington Present
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes Present
Councilman Ted Cooper Present
City Manager Tracey Barlow Present
City Clerk Bonnie Wenzel Present
City Attorney Carolyn Ansay Present
INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to
the Flag.
2.APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A.Special Meeting of August 31, 2009
Councilman Cooper moved to approve the August 31, 2009
minutes, second by Councilwoman Rhodes
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The MOTION CARRIED 4-0
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3.PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/DON
ATIONS
Mayor Thomas asked the promoters of the Charlie Daniels
Band concert to provide a report.
Ramira Garrett
, Horizon Events, thanked the City of
Edgewater and City Council. She has had nothing but great
sentiments from the people that were a part of it. They
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ended up with more people than they expected. The vast
majority were from Edgewater from what the ticket sales
show so far. She felt all in all it was a great success.
Mayor Thomas asked Ms. Garrett if she knew how many people
attended. Ms. Garrett stated they were still working on
final ticket numbers but estimated there were 5,000 to
6,000 in attendance, not counting kids who were free and
not ticketed. They are really excited and hope to do
another one.
Councilwoman Bennington stated she worked traffic and
parking was a problem. Ms. Garrett informed her they ended
up with more people than they expected. The ticket sales
more than doubled Friday night and Saturday before the
show, which is unusual. It did catch them off guard. They
could have had a lot more parking in the main field had it
been properly set up. They found a lot of cars were
leaving themselves plenty of room to tailgate before the
show. The next time they will have more parking attendants
to get them in a lot closer. She knew aerials had been
taken but hadn’t seen them yet.
Councilwoman Bennington commented on people showing up as
late as 10:00 p.m. wanting to get in. Ms. Garrett stated
their ticket sales continued until almost 9:30 p.m., which
was another odd thing.
Councilwoman Bennington felt the traffic went really
smooth. Parking was the only issue.
Mayor Thomas asked what benefit it was for Edgewater.
City Manager Barlow mentioned comments he received from
businesses that were further in town from the event that
had record-breaking days that day. The entire event went
extremely well. Staff plans within the next two weeks to
work with the land owner and the promoters and if they are
interested in doing additional events out there, is sit
down with them with an after action and talk about and put
that punch list together of things they learned and things
to expect. He further complimented City staff that worked
the event as well as the volunteers. Those costs for the
City staff that was there is reimbursed by the event itself
so there were no costs to the taxpayers.
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Councilman Cooper further commented on this being a family
event. He thanked everyone involved for everything they
did to help pull this together.
There were no Presentations at this time.
4.CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Elizabeth DiMascio
, 1918 S. Riverside Drive, wanted to
report a dangerous situation on Boston Road. On two
separate occasions two pedestrians were walking across the
bumper closer to Riverside Drive and tripped. She feels
the bumpers are too wide for that road. Half of Boston is
not wide and that bumper starts in the area where the road
is not widened.
Ms. DiMascio wanted to meet the person that designed that
and offered to personally supervise for free the removal of
that bumper. Councilwoman Rhodes informed her it was
designed by the Florida Department of Transportation.
Ms. DiMascio mentioned the first bumper being removed that
was closed to U.S. #1 because people crashed into it.
City Manager Barlow asked for Council to give him time to
look into it with staff. He believed that was a DOT
requirement when the Family Dollar was brought in.
Development Services Director Darren Lear informed him it
wasn’t DOT. City Manager Barlow stated it was local and
agreed to look into it and report back to Council.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated she thought DOT mandated them to
have something there. City Manager Barlow believed it was
previous administration and again agreed to look into it.
Matthew Thurmire
, President of Southeast Volusia Habitat
for Humanity, had some brochures for Council. He commented
on a second program that Habitat International started that
their affiliate is participating in called “A Brush With
Kindness”.
5.APPROVAL OR CHANGES/MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA
There were no Modifications to be made to the agenda at
this time.
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6.CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Cooper commented on being unable to attend the
YMCA Board meeting. They also hosted their appreciation
dinner on Friday night, which was well attended. They have
made a few changes at the Y. Laurie A. Denoff will be the
new director. Herman Mitchell will be going to the Deland
Facility.
Councilman Cooper briefly commented on the Jam for America
event.
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Mayor Thomas stated on October 2 they had a DUI Saturation
patrol in the City. He asked Captain Arcieri to come up
and give them the results of the DUI Saturation report.
Police Captain David Arcieri informed Council the Police
Chief put this together about a year ago and by
participating in this they earn points with the State and
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get free equipment. On October 2, they had nine agencies
participate and a total of 16 officers from outside
agencies. He commented on the agencies that came. From 7
p.m. until 1 a.m. there were 25 officers on the streets in
Edgewater. They had 16 arrests, 3 were DUI’s, 6 were drug
related, 98 citations were issued and 51 verbal or written
warnings were given. He commented on this being a big
success.
Mayor Thomas stated he received a call. He asked if any of
the other Councilmembers received phone calls.
Councilwoman Bennington received one from her daughter who
received a ticket for a burned out tag light. Councilwoman
Rhodes didn’t but she saw them because she was out that
night.
Councilwoman Bennington reported that the General Employees
Pension Board was in the process of getting rid of
Principal. She was hoping it wouldn’t be too much longer.
They have already picked an alternate to take over when
they terminate Principal.
Councilwoman Rhodes had nothing at this time.
7.CONSENT AGENDA
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A.Confirmation of the purchase of a Kenworth T800
Semi-Tractor 52,000 lb GVW in the amount of
$118,397
B.Confirmation of the purchase of a Kenworth T370
Garbage Truck with an 18-yard rear loader in the
amount of $119,633
C.Approval to use Odyssey Manufacturing Company for
the purchase of Sodium Hypochlorite for the Water
Treatment Plant
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation on the items
on the Consent Agenda.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to approve the Consent Agenda,
second by Councilwoman Bennington
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The MOTION CARRIED 4-0
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8.PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A.Resolution No. 2009-R-18 – Update of Purchasing
Policy dated April 21, 2008
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2009-R-18 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation by going over
the proposed changes to the Purchasing Policy.
Councilman Cooper asked if there was any indication that
any department failed to perform due to the present set
standards of the no more than $1,000 merchant account
limits or the $15,000 maximum limit for City Manager
approval. He asked City Manager Barlow if they ever had a
problem where they couldn’t get Council’s approval or vote
to access cash for him. He has trouble increasing these
amounts when there is no real reason. If it’s not broke,
why are they trying to fix it? The present limits that
have been set and they have been working with for years
don’t seem to be a problem and he wondered why they were
asking to increase them to such large amounts. With their
budget and everything they argued with over their budget,
allowing this money to be spent without council approval
could put them in a reserve problem almost instantaneously.
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City Manager Barlow explained these are already budgeted in
their budgeting process. The budget they approve are the
line items. They can’t spend outside those line items.
That money is already allocated for those. He commented on
ways this is making it more efficient.
Councilman Cooper felt it sounded like they were going down
a dangerous path. City Manager Barlow explained everybody
has a purchasing card and it is tracked back to him. They
aren’t authorized unless they have the supervisor that is
empowered to make those decisions. They can’t spend
outside their budget and those line items.
Councilman Cooper was more concerned with the $25,000 and
the $50,000 going out to bid and the section where City
Manager Barlow appoints the Committee to review those bids
under $50,000. He feels it kind of takes it out of where
they would have come forward and they would have had a
proper conversation and they would have been able to look
the contractor in the eye. He doesn’t like the idea of
appointed Committee that can be appointed by the City
Manager to vote for what he wants to bid under $50,000. He
spoke of two bids totaling almost $100,000 using up what
little bit of reserve they have left and they aren’t in
compliance with their own budget and the reserve they are
supposed to maintain.
City Manager Barlow stated he can’t go into the reserves
without coming back to Council and these items are already
in the budget now. Councilman Cooper stated but if he had
an emergency he could spend $50,000 without anybody’s say
so. Councilwoman Rhodes informed him $25,000. City
Manager Barlow assured him he would be back before Council.
Councilman Cooper stated prior to that it was $15,000 and
it has never been a problem.
Councilwoman Bennington stated the dollar isn’t worth what
it used to be. Councilman Cooper stated and the economy is
coming down the other direction too and they need to watch
the dollar that much closer.
Councilwoman Bennington pointed out it is a matter of trust
in their City Manager and staff. Councilman Cooper stated
he loves his City Manager and staff right now but they
aren’t always going to have the same ones and they have
large amounts there. Why change it if it’s not broken?
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Councilwoman Bennington stated City Manager Barlow just
told him there is a problem. Councilman Cooper didn’t see
how it could be more efficient when there hasn’t been one
instance where they have ever had a problem getting the
money to the City Manager to run the City.
City Manager Barlow used the Consent Agenda as an example
of coming after the fact in an effort to save $21,000,
which was a detailed item in the budget and he had to
execute that purchase.
Councilman Cooper stated he has never heard Council never
say they wouldn’t meet to take care of any kind of
emergency funding. He feels this is a bad path to follow.
Councilwoman Rhodes disagreed. She feels anything that
saves money is to their benefit. They have already
approved the budget and they can’t spend more than what
they have approved anyway. To approve the budget and come
back to them for every one of those expenditures is
redundant and doesn’t make any sense to her. She thinks
this is a good idea.
Councilwoman Bennington agreed with Councilwoman Rhodes.
Due to there being no further comments, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve Resolution 2009-R-
18, second by Councilwoman Rhodes
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-1. Councilman Cooper voted NO
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B.Nancy Hansen, on behalf of Edgewater United
Methodist Church, requesting a Special Activity
Permit for the Annual Christmas Under the Palms
event to be held at 211 N. Ridgewood Avenue on
December 12, 2009
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Rhodes disclosed she used to work for and is a
member of the Edgewater United Methodist Church.
Due to there being no further comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
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Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve the Special
Activity Permit, second by Councilman Cooper
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The MOTION CARRIED 4-0
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C.1 Reading, Ordinance No. 2009-O-07 –
Establishing a temporary moratorium on the
issuance of permits, business tax receipts and/or
certificate of uses for game rooms, arcades,
dance halls, internet cafes and similar indoor
entertainment and amusement activities
City Attorney Ansay read Ordinance 2009-O-07 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation. He
explained this is establishing a 180-day moratorium so a
study can be conducted to determine the application
criteria, standards and other approval processes and
approvals related to the regulation and/or location and
issuance of said permits. He made mention of having three
internet cafes located in the community.
Councilwoman Bennington asked why they needed an ordinance
for this and why they weren’t doing a resolution. City
Attorney Ansay explained the likely land use changes that
may occur could potentially be within the LDC so to the
degree they are affecting anything that relates to land
development in terms of a moratorium there is law that
indicates it should be done with at least the same
formality that they would have originally or will
subsequently pass a land use ordinance by. They have to
pass land use changes by ordinance.
Councilman Cooper asked if they would naturally fall under
the State and Federal regulations to have a license to do
this. City Manager Barlow stated it is his understanding
the State Attorney and Attorney General are possibly
looking at some of these loopholes. City Attorney Ansay
commented on there being a State law that deals with some
of these types of uses and there are Federal laws in place
as well. She didn’t think City staff was attempting to
preempt through any kind of regulations, State or Federal
law. She thought this was more a question of where do they
locate these in our community. She views it more of a
local concern as opposed to the issues that the State and
Feds regulate.
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Councilman Cooper stated they aren’t forbidding it, they
are just asking for a moratorium of 180 days. City Manager
Barlow stated until they can do a study.
Mayor Thomas stated they have three in Edgewater now. From
what he understands, sort of the requirements is our
population is 21,000 and they are allowed one per 7,000.
The ones they have are still going to be able to operate.
What they are saying is they aren’t going to allow any
more. City Manager Barlow stated put off on processing any
additional until staff has an opportunity to do the study.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked exactly what they would be
studying. City Manager Barlow informed her they needed to
study good locations for these.
Councilman Cooper stated he thought the ones that were
already in business were going to be left alone and anybody
applying for a new permit. City Manager Barlow informed
him it was for future planning going forward.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated they don’t do this for every
business and questioned why they are doing it for this
business? City Manager Barlow stated they have zonings
throughout Edgewater that permit certain types businesses
throughout Edgewater. This is becoming so essentially new
and it is part of the study to determine.
Mayor Thomas questioned if they got a complaint on this.
City Manager Barlow informed him no and commented on why
this has been a concern.
Mayor Thomas stated they have three and questioned if they
have had any problems with those three. City Manager
Barlow didn’t know that he had received complaints other
than parking at one and overflow parking at one.
Mayor Thomas assumed his goal was the protection of the
citizens of Edgewater from this sort of thing. City
Manager Barlow stated it is a business that they don’t have
enough codes to regulate. It gives them an opportunity to
catch up and be able to do that.
City Manager Barlow stated if they are okay with them just
popping up anywhere they could leave it alone.
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Mayor Thomas stated what he was understanding was they are
going to leave the three existing businesses alone and they
want to have 180 days moratorium on starting a new one just
to study it and bring recommendations back to Council.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked if they were hiring someone to do
the study. City Manager Barlow informed her staff would do
the study.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Rhodes made a motion to approve Ordinance
2009-O-07, second by Councilwoman Bennington
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-1. Councilman Cooper voted NO
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9.BOARD APPOINTMENTS
There were no Board appointments at this time.
10.OTHER BUSINESS
A.Selection of firms to provide Planning Consultant
Services for a period of three years
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation. The
selection committee recommended City Council approve the
following firms to perform the requested services and are
in no particular order: Glatting Jackson Kercher Anglin,
Canin Associates, Kimley-Horn and Associates, and MSCW.
Councilwoman Rhodes questioned only paying for them if they
use them. City Manager Barlow informed her that was
correct. There was no retainer fee.
Councilman Cooper asked if they had a budgeted allotment
for these avenues of consulting. City Manager Barlow
informed him that was correct. Councilman Cooper stated so
no matter when they use them they would have to stay within
what they have budgeted for them. City Manager Barlow
informed him absolutely.
Councilwoman Bennington spoke of being the Councilmember
appointed to serve on the selection committee and how
intriguing it was reading 22 responses to the RSQ from
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planning. City Manager Barlow commented on receiving 22
very qualified responses.
Due to there being no further comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to adopt the staff
recommendations, second by Councilwoman Rhodes
.
The MOTION CARRIED 4-0
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11.OFFICER REPORTS
A.City Clerk
City Clerk Wenzel reported on going to the Florida
Association of City Clerks conference last week. Next year
will be her last year with the full conference and she will
have her education points towards her certification.
B.City Attorney
City Attorney Ansay had nothing at this time.
C.City Manager
City Manager Barlow commented on the postcards he provided
to Council regarding the Business Expo in ParkTowne on
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November 5 from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. He encouraged
Council’s attendance if they were available.
12.CITIZEN COMMENTS
There were no Citizen Comments at this time.
13.ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman
Bennington moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 6:50
p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
Attest: APPROVED:
City of Edgewater, Florida
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Bonnie Wenzel, City Clerk Michael L. Thomas, Mayor
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