11-16-2009 - Regular
CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 16, 2009
6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES
1.CALL TO ORDER
Vice Mayor Rhodes called the Regular Meeting to order at
6:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Michael Thomas Excused
Councilwoman Debra Rogers Excused
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington Present
Vice Mayor Harriet Rhodes Present
Councilman Ted Cooper Present
City Manager Tracey Barlow Present
City Clerk Bonnie Wenzel Present
City Attorney Carolyn Ansay Present
INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to
the Flag.
2.APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A.Regular Meeting of September 14, 2009
Councilman Cooper moved to approve the September 14, 2009
minutes, second by Councilwoman Bennington
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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3.PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/DON
ATIONS
A.A Proclamation proclaiming November as Gangfree
Edgewater Month
City Attorney Ansay read a proclamation declaring November
as “Gangfree Edgewater Month”.
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B.A Proclamation supporting F.A.I.T.H. and the
Center for Business Excellence
City Attorney Ansay read the proclamation supporting
F.A.I.T.H. and the Center for Business Excellence.
4.CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizen spoke:
Mike Visconti
, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, stated in District 4
before the election they had Judy Lichter sitting in the
seat where Ted Cooper is right now. Judy Lichter for every
ceremony, Veterans Day and Memorial Day, she attended and
made a speech at every one of them. She was always there
to represent Edgewater. Ted Cooper took over her place and
since then Ted Cooper followed the same thing that Judy
Lichter did. He attends every Veterans Day and Memorial
Day service. He outdid himself this Veterans Day. He made
an inspiring speech that he will always remember. He
thanked Ted Cooper and those who attended the Veterans Day
ceremony on behalf of the Veterans.
5.APPROVAL OR CHANGES/MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA
There were no Changes/Modifications to the agenda.
6.CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Bennington stated the Business Expo they had
at ParkTowne was a tremendous success. They had a lot of
people. It was an eye opener. A lot of people had never
been out there to know what the City had. It was very well
attended. She thanked the Barnett Group and the Chamber for
supporting the City on that.
Councilwoman Rhodes had nothing at this time.
Councilman Cooper commended the citizens that came out for
the Business Expo. He thought there were over 200 people.
He thanked everyone who attended the Veterans Day ceremony.
Councilman cooper reminded everyone of the Christmas parade
next month. He would like to see everyone out there. He
then wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
7.CONSENT AGENDA
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There were no items on the Consent Agenda to be discussed
at this time.
8.PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
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A.2 Reading, Ordinance No. 2009-O-07 –
Establishing a temporary moratorium on the
issuance of permits, business tax receipts and/or
certificate of uses for game rooms, arcades,
dance halls, internet cafes and similar indoor
entertainment and amusement activities
City Attorney Ansay read Ord. 2009-O-07 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Vice Mayor Rhodes opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to accept Ordinance 2009-O-
07, second by Vice Mayor Rhodes
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The MOTION FAILED 2-1. Councilman Cooper voted NO
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B.1 Reading, Ordinance No. 2009-O-08 – Amend the
Comprehensive Plan to update the Capital
Improvements Element (CIE) and the accompanying
Capital Improvements Program (CIP)
City Attorney Ansay read Ordinance 2009-O-08 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no further comments, Vice Mayor Rhodes
opened and closed the public hearing and entertained a
motion.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve Ordinance 2009-O-08,
second by Councilwoman Bennington
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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C.1 Reading, Ordinance No. 2009-O-09 – Repealing
and Restating Article VII (Water Conservation
Standards) of Chapter 19 (Utilities and Services)
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City Attorney Ansay read Ordinance 2009-O-09 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
There were no citizen comments at this time.
Councilwoman Bennington stated they all received notices in
the mail from St. Johns telling them when they can water.
This does not apply to the reclaimed water. City Manager
Barlow informed her that was correct. He spoke of the
advertisements being done by St. Johns in the newspaper as
well as on television. It is silent on the reclaimed but
is confusing to those who have reclaimed. Notice was put
in the newsletter but they are going to look at putting an
ad in the newspaper.
Councilwoman Bennington asked what the cost would be to put
door hangers on the doors of the reclaimed water customers
rather than take an ad out in the paper and second-guess
that they may see it. City Manager Barlow informed her it
was in the newsletter and they will all get the newsletter.
She was talking about a large area in Florida Shores they
would have to canvas and that would be man-hours. He
thought it would be cheaper to do the newspaper ad than pay
the man-hours. Councilwoman Bennington informed him it was
just a suggestion. City Manager Barlow suggested he could
hold off on the ad and they could watch after the
newsletter goes out to see if they see a significant
decrease in the consumption of the reclaimed water and then
they may go back and try a different tactic.
Vice Mayor Rhodes agreed with Councilwoman Bennington that
it was a good idea but she felt it would be cost
prohibitive at this time.
Councilman Cooper stated the important thing with the
County advertising and making sure they did the direct
mailing, he felt it would be important to put in the
newsletter every month that they have reduced the impact
fees drastically to hook up to the reclaimed water because
of having an abundance of it and it costs tax dollars to
flush it. He feels they need to advertise that as much as
they can. He then asked how the program had been received
by the citizens. Environmental Services Director Brenda
Dewees informed him they had a few.
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Councilwoman Bennington pointed out it was wintertime too.
Councilman Cooper also commented on it being the holidays.
He felt they would see an increase in the Spring.
City Manager Barlow pointed out they would also be
streaming information commercials about Edgewater on the
televisions in the lobby at City Hall so the people waiting
in line would see those.
The following citizen spoke:
Jeff Gheris
, 208 Canova Street, New Smyrna Beach, asked how
they get the reclaimed water. City Manager Barlow informed
him it wasn’t available in the area of his project. Vice
Mayor Rhodes informed him right now it was only available
in Florida Shores.
Vice Mayor Rhodes closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to adopt Ordinance 2009-O-09,
second by Councilman Cooper
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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D.Resolution No. 2009-R-31 and Resolution No. 2009-
R-32 – Authorization for the City Manager or
Mayor to execute the appropriate documents for
Refinancing of the 1991 and 1993 Revenue Bonds
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2009-R-31 and
Resolution 2009-R-32 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Vice Mayor Rhodes opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve Resolution 2009-R-
31, second by Councilman Cooper
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve Resolution 2009-R-
32, second by Councilman Cooper
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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E.Resolution No. 2009-R-35 – Approving the Final
Year End Amended Budget for the City for Fiscal
Year 2008/2009
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2009-R-35 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Vice Mayor Rhodes opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve Resolution 2009-R-35,
second by Councilwoman Bennington
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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F.Resolution No. 2009-R-27 – Modifying the Schedule
of Fines, Fees, Costs and/or Penalties
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2009-R-27 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
There was no public comment at this time.
Councilwoman Bennington asked who goes over this. City
Manager Barlow informed her every single department that is
responsible for those, they go through and clean up and
between the Finance Director and himself, they manage all
of that. Everybody has their fingerprints on that work.
Councilwoman Bennington felt this was a lot easier to read
than the other one. Councilman Cooper felt it would be
easier for the Finance Director to help out when people
come in arguing about the penalties and fees.
Councilwoman Bennington stated in the new ordinance are
there exceptions to the penalties. What if somebody says
it wasn’t their fault or wanted Council to hear something,
is there an exception where it wouldn’t have to go before
Council and a decision could be made through
administration. City Manager Barlow informed her it
depended on what it was and that each case was different.
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How it is handled is identified in each one of those
ordinances.
Vice Mayor Rhodes closed the public hearing and entertained
a motion.
Councilman Cooper moved to adopt Resolution 2009-R-27,
second by Councilwoman Bennington
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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G.Resolution No. 2009-R-30 – Enacting Business
Incentives for The Big Planet Restaurant by
waiving certain Impact Fees
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2009-R-30 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Vice Mayor Rhodes asked if any of the public wanted to
comment. There was no comment from the public.
Councilman Cooper wanted to hear from the owner of the
property for his reasoning.
Jeff Gheris
, 208 Canova Street, New Smyrna Beach, commented
on the jobs and 30 hours. He commented on hiring high
school and college kids and a lot of times 30 hours is not
possible for them. He wanted to have some consideration of
that because they would like to hire high school kids.
Councilwoman Bennington asked what the number of hours was
for high school kids. Mr. Gheris informed her around 22
hours and they can’t work past a certain time. There are a
lot of regulations when they hire high school kids.
Mr. Gheris commented on not being a corporation or a chain.
He and his wife own The Garlic and P.J.’s. He has been
doing this for 40 years and wanted to do one more
restaurant. He commented on being unique. He spoke of
Edgewater being a great town to work with. There haven’t
been any hassles or roadblocks thrown in their way. It’s
been smooth sailing but the financial realities of the
economy right now make this difficult. He mistakenly
thought the impact fees were $24,000, which seemed like a
lot to him at the time and he miscalculated. He thought it
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was under $10,000 when they did The Garlic in New Smyrna.
When he called up to get the final numbers so he could get
his permit and get started and was told it was $72,000 he
about fell over backwards and that doesn’t include the
County fees. They are going to be well over $100,000. He
knows what impact fees are for and they make sense. The
burden of the infrastructure should not be placed on the
taxpayers and should be paid by the developers but the
reality now is obviously populations are not increasing
here or anywhere right now and it is impossible to get
money from banks. They had a loan all set with Regions and
a week and a half a go they decided they have to go through
SBA too. SBA would take months. There are all kinds of
inspection fees. He did that once in Vermont and he swore
he would never go through SBA again. They aren’t doing SBA
and have to come up with the additional money themselves.
There are some financial realities. It is a daunting task
to come up with that much money. He was hoping they could
get something done with some of the fees to make it more
doable for them. He appreciated Council’s consideration.
Councilman Cooper stated he understood the hardship that
$66,909 could put on any business. He also understands the
need of the City. They don’t have a huge amount of money
laying around for projects and every little penny they can
get their hands on they are looking to move the City
forward with that money. If they were to entertain any
kind of abeyance where they are going to give him some
relief, he asked what Mr. Gheris would do back for the
City.
Mr. Gheris stated if this goes at all the way the other two
restaurants have, they run either an $800,000 or $600,000 a
year in payroll depending on which business they are
talking about and looking at about 45-50 jobs. They would
be creating jobs and are obviously making a large
investment in the community with the building of the
building. He commented on not seeing a big demand on the
infrastructure. He thinks they are filling a need. He has
been told by people in New Smyrna Beach that The Garlic
especially is considered to be an asset. He thinks they
will find it is going to be an asset to Edgewater.
Councilwoman Bennington stated City Manager Barlow on
Option 1 suggested a refund or credit for every job over 32
hours. Mr. Gheris was saying the teenagers he would be
hiring are 20 hours. She asked if there was some way they
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could adjust this. Mr. Gheris stated if this goes beyond
their particular situation to other people they don’t want
to have a formula which would preclude people from wanting
to hire high school people because they are not counted.
Councilwoman Bennington stated they told City manager
Barlow to go out and find a way to entice businesses to
come here and this is one of his ideas. She is sort of
leaning to the job tie in. Vice Mayor Rhodes stated she
was leaning the whole other direction.
Councilwoman Bennington stated she was leaning that way
because they have another project that is depending on how
many jobs produced. She doesn’t want to preclude teenagers
but she wants to be able to give whoever builds credit for
having them but she doesn’t want to cut the hours. Vice
Mayor Rhodes felt that option was a logistical nightmare.
She liked the current with Option 2. She thinks cutting
the impact fees, a certain percentage and allowing them
three years to pay it off, they do eventually get their
impact fees but it helps them up front.
Councilwoman Bennington thinks in a lot of ways the job
created thing would be a nightmare to keep track of,
especially if they had a lot of businesses. She asked City
Manager Barlow how he would verify this. City Manager
Barlow informed her through payroll. He stated there are
many other cities and other incentives based on jobs
created. They have to show proof of payroll and it is a
one shot deal in the first year. Another option would be
they could give half a credit for anything between 20 and
32 hours and a full credit for anything 32 hours and
greater.
Councilman Cooper stated there are many ways they could
work the hours.
Vice Mayor Rhodes stated that is something that requires
the City to track and keep up with and she thinks if they
give them a flat fee and give them three years or whatever
they decide they want it to be to pay it off then they
don’t have to worry about it any more.
Councilwoman Bennington suggested giving them, if they pay
it off before the three-year period, a percentage off of
the $24,000.
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City Manager Barlow reminded Council that whatever
direction they give him tonight they are setting a
precedent. Two of the objectives are to attract additional
non-residential projects here and to create jobs. That is
where he was leaning towards something that would give an
incentive for a business to come here and create the jobs.
Vice Mayor Rhodes asked if they could put a caveat on it
that if they create fewer than x-amount of jobs, draw a
line in the sand and say if they create more than this then
they will give them this. If they create less than this
they aren’t going to give it to them because it’s not worth
their while. City Manager Barlow stated they could do that
and expressed his concern. In that one-year period there
are two checks, the six-month mark and the twelve-month
mark.
Councilwoman Bennington stated the other problem she sees
in this whole thing is if they do this Option 1, they could
have a business that goes up and is running for a year and
then goes down and they have lost all that money. City
Manager Barlow stated they stand that risk but the goal is
hopefully this will help keep them in business. They stand
that risk with any of the options they give.
Vice Mayor Rhodes stated if they don’t have to pay it all
up front it gives them a better foundation and a better
incentive to start. Councilwoman Bennington stated it’s
not so much money out of their pocket.
Councilman Cooper felt they could keep this very simple and
decide on giving a discount on the impact fees which
doesn’t set them into a precedent. It allows them to look
at every business. It looked like in the Options as they
get to Option 2 there is only a 10% discount. He asked
City Manager Barlow to explain how they got to the $66,909.
Originally he was looking at the $24,900, which Mr. Gehris
was looking at.
City Manager Barlow stated the $24,000 only consisted of
Fire Rescue Impact Fees, Law Enforcement Impact Fees and
Transportation Impact Fees. Those are the only ones that
staff would recommend they look at waiving or reducing. In
Option 2 it is all of those plus the sidewalk impact fees,
which were not recommended to be adjusted or waived. The
Water and Sewer Impact Fees, which were $15,000 and
$21,000, they could not because they were obligated for
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current bonds. That was where they get the $66,000. The
$72,000 was an additional $5,833.87 for the water
connection, meter deposit, sewer connection and hydrant
installation for a total of $72,743.23.
Councilman Cooper stated his City of Edgewater bill is the
$66,909 and they were looking to waive almost $25,000,
which is about a third. Rather than come up with a whole
bunch of stipulations on how to do this and he understood
why he segregated out certain impact fees. If they can
afford to do that and give him a basis there, he would like
to see them work with a percentage for the size of the
footprint and work it from that way. Keep it as simple as
possible. He would like to take a hard look at the
footprint, how many square feet he is talking, how many
parking spaces and give him an overall percentage break on
the overall $66,909 and they could divide it up anyway they
wanted. Vice Mayor Rhodes informed him they couldn’t.
They couldn’t do the water and sewer because of the bonds
that are pledged.
Councilwoman Bennington stated based on the $66,909 over a
three-year period, which comes to $22,303.12 per year, if
he pays this off early, before the three years, they give
him a discount on the $24,867. Say like a 20% discount for
paying it off early. If not he just pays every year for
three years the $22,303.
Mr. Gheris stated the problem is they have already paid it.
The money has already been expended. Vice Mayor Rhodes
stated after this would they not be able to give him back
what he has overpaid. City Manager Barlow stated they
could certainly give him a refund.
Councilwoman Bennington stated if they are going to
establish a policy, which is basically what they are doing,
that to her would be the easiest, simplest way. Let them
make payments and establish an early payment discount on
those three impact fees.
Mr. Gehris stated aside from his immediate situation the
long term is to draw more business to Edgewater. He spoke
of when he lived in Vermont, a lot of north eastern
businesses were packing up and moving to the Carolinas
because they were offered land, ten years of free taxes and
they were given some great incentives and it worked.
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Councilwoman Bennington commented on Mr. Gehris being the
trial case and this being their first try at giving an
incentive.
Councilwoman Bennington asked Mr. Gehris if he doesn’t have
to put the money all up front, like he had to this time,
but supposed he doesn’t have to and he realizes he can
spread the cost out, isn’t that an incentive. Mr. Gehris
informed her absolutely and they could pay for it with
their cash flow but also stated hopefully the business in
the first couple of years is strong enough to make those
payments. A lot of businesses fail in the first couple of
years so that could be an issue for them.
Councilman Cooper stated he would be all for wiping out the
three impact fees in the amount of $24,867.92. Keeping it
very simple, taking that off and giving Mr. Gehris that
break on that, make sure it is written in any legalize that
they need to that they are not setting a precedent, they
are looking at the footprint. It was their first one.
This is an established restaurateur with two restaurants in
the local community. Keep it simple and not setting
anything in stone.
Vice Mayor Rhodes agreed but added that they provide Option
2 for the rest of the impact fees that have to be paid.
Waive the three and give a three-year period to pay off the
remainder. City Manager Barlow stated he has already paid.
Mr. Gehris stated if he got some of that back he could pay
it over the three years and put the money in here, which
would be great.
City Manager Barlow stated he has yet to pay the $24,000 so
that part he would not pay. Vice Mayor Rhodes stated they
would deduct the $24,000 from the $66,909 and give him
three years to pay the balance.
Councilwoman Bennington stated and they are saying that
every business that comes has to come before Council and
they will decide. She asked City Attorney Ansay if that
was setting some sort of precedent.
City Attorney Ansay informed her no. They have a
resolution in the agenda packet. It is a resolution that
is specific to this particular business. There is no
current City ordinance or policy that would be set by
Council acting on a resolution applicable to this one
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particular business. The way she reads the resolution as
drafted it already as proposed in the agenda essentially
waives the three individual impact fees that total the
$24,000. She recommended they go ahead and approve the
resolution contingent on language being added that
effectuates the payment plan portion of what they are
agreeing to and then she thinks that resolution can be
finalized, action taken tonight and staff can move forward
as opposed to having to bring it back. They are acting
consistent with what was already in the agenda packet given
that slight deviation.
Councilwoman Bennington questioned any other businesses
coming before them having to go through the same process.
City Attorney Ansay stated it would have to go through the
City Manager’s office and then be brought to Council for
action.
Mr. Gehris stated if they were able to get two thirds of
that $60,000 back and leave the first year’s payment and
have two more years to pay the balance that would relieve
them and give them some additional capital.
Councilwoman Bennington clarified they were going to waive
the $24,867 and then they are going to allow the balance
for the sidewalks, water and sewer to be paid over a three-
year period. She was informed that was correct.
Councilwoman Bennington made that motion, second by
Councilman Cooper
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
.
Vice Mayor Rhodes called a ten-minute recess at this time.
The meeting recessed at 7:00 p.m. and reconvened at 7:10
p.m.
H.Resolution No. 2009-R-28 – Purchase of the
Persimmon Place Water and Wastewater Systems and
authorization for the Mayor to execute the
Contract for Sale and Purchase
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2009-R-28 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation. He informed
Council he also needed a second motion for approval to sign
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the reciprocal easement agreement that goes with it that
allows the City to go across their property to maintain our
equipment and vice versa.
Due to there being no further comments, Vice Mayor Rhodes
entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve Resolution 2009-R-
28 and authorize execution of the contract, second by
Councilman Cooper
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
.
Councilman Cooper made a motion to approve the easement as
described by the City Manager, second by Vice Mayor Rhodes
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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I.Resolution No. 2009-R-33 – Authorize the City
Manager to submit an application to the Florida
Department of Environmental Protection for
financial assistance under the State Revolving
Fund Drinking Water Facilities Loan program for
the New Water Supply Wells and authorization for
the City Manager to execute the Loan Application
and any amendments that would reduce the original
maximum loan amount and budget amendment
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2009-R-33 into the
record.
Brad Blais
, Quentin L. Hampton Associates, explained the
City in its Water Supply Plan has indicated a need to
construct new water supply wells adjacent to the existing
water supply wells north of the Water Plant. This is a
condition of the consumptive use permit as well. They
tried to get this done last year. It has been pushed back
a little bit which was fortuitous in that they have
submitted an application and request for inclusion in the
SRF program and are now eligible to receive ARRA money from
the Federal government that would come in the form of a
loan forgiveness program. They have received tentative
approval for the ARRA grant, which would be an 85% grant
towards the project completion. The estimate for the
project is about $1.3 million so they would be looking at
getting grant funds on the order of almost $1 million. The
ticket is they need to keep this moving and have a contract
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in place right about towards the end of the year and be
under construction prior to February. The reason they are
eligible to get this money is because other projects have
not met their deadlines and have not met their timelines.
They have been moving forward at a rapid rate hoping if
everything came through they would have a shot at this
money. The odds are very good at this point that the grant
money should come through. It is important to get this
executed. The project is currently advertised for bids.
He thought the receipt of bids was scheduled for December
th
7.
Councilman Cooper asked if there was any concern that
anything might happen where they would lose this particular
ARRA. Mr. Blais stated if they don’t meet their deadlines
they could lose it.
City Manager Barlow stated this is a requirement of their
consumptive use permit so it’s a project they have to do
and this is a great opportunity. If for some reason they
do the loan application and go through the approval process
which they have to do before they are eligible for the 85%
forgiveness, if for some reason that falls through they can
walk away and don’t have to execute the loan.
Mr. Blais explained the way this loan process works is they
don’t have to execute the loan or repay any of the money
until they actually take it down. They won’t start taking
that money down until they actually execute a contract with
the contractor. They pay the contract and then they send
that for a reimbursement request from the State. Until
they start taking the money from the State they aren’t on
the hook for anything. City Manager Barlow stated by then
they will have absolute assurance that they receive the
ARRA grant for that forgiveness.
Councilman Cooper asked if they had budgeted the
difference. City Manager Barlow informed him that was
correct and that was part of the motion to do the
appropriate budget amendments which is actually in the
impact fees to move them over for the expenditure side.
Due to there being no further comments, Vice Mayor Rhodes
closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington made a motion to approve Resolution
2009-R-33, authorize the City Manager to execute the Loan
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Application to the Florida Department of Environmental
Protection for financial assistance under the State
Revolving Fund Drinking Water Facilities Loan Program for
loan not to exceed $1,884,000 for the New Water Supply
Wells, authorize the City Manager to sign any amendments
that would reduce the original maximum loan amounts and
authorize to amend the budget to identify the project,
second by Councilman Cooper
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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J.Resolution No. 2009-R-34 – Authorize the City
manager to submit an application to the Florida
Department of Environmental Protection for
financial assistance under the State Revolving
Fund Drinking Water Facilities Loan program for
the Southeast Water Storage and Pump Station and
authorization for the City Manager to execute the
Loan Application and any amendments that would
reduce the original maximum loan amount and
budget amendment
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2009-R-34 into the
record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Vice Mayor Rhodes asked for citizen comment. There was none
at this time.
Vice Mayor Rhodes asked for Council comment.
Councilman Cooper asked if the serviceability of the
present equipment would have to be destroyed and start from
scratch or if some of it could be renovated. Mr. Blais
informed him that was completely ready for abandonment.
That had no salvage value whatsoever. He didn’t think it
had been in service for years. City Manager Barlow stated
there was nothing there. They gutted all of that and it is
just the shell of a building where they put the animals.
Vice Mayor Rhodes closed the public hearing and entertained
a motion.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve Resolution 2009-R-34,
authorize the City Manager to execute the Loan Application
to the Florida Department of Environmental Protection for
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financial assistance under the State Revolving Fund
Drinking Water Facilities Loan Program for loan not to
exceed $2,287,000 for the Southeast Water Storage and Pump
Station, authorize the City Manager to sign any amendments
that would reduce the original maximum loan amounts, and
authorize to amend the budget to identify the project,
second by Vice Mayor Rhodes
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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9.BOARD APPOINTMENTS
A.Police Officers’ Pension Board of Trustees –
Councilman Cooper’s appointment due to the
resignation of Jeanne DelNigro
Councilman Cooper moved to appoint Kevin B. Seymour to the
Police Officers’ Pension Board of Trustees, second by
Councilwoman Bennington
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
.
10.OTHER BUSINESS
A.Ghassan E. & Colleen M. Ajram requesting the City
waive all false alarm liens on property located
at 101 S. Ridgewood Avenue
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation. They have
calculated about $140 out of pocket for man-hours and
filing fees.
Councilman Cooper asked Mr. Ajram if there was something
wrong with the system and if it had been fixed. Mr. Ajram
stated he pulled his alarm system totally out of the
building. He leases the building stripped. Councilman
Cooper felt then the problem had been solved. City Manager
Barlow informed him the tenants had moved out. Mr. Ajram
stated the man illegally installed the alarm and didn’t
apply for a permit.
Councilwoman Bennington asked who the notices went to. Mr.
Ajram stated they went to Skidrow Customs. Councilwoman
Bennington asked Mr. Ajram how he found out about them.
Mr. Ajram stated the City sent him a letter after he left
him high and dry on the building. For five months his
check bounced. He left him with the building wide open
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with garbage all over the place. It cost them over $2,000
to clean it, never mind the $15,000 for five months of
rent.
Vice Mayor Rhodes stated there is no reason the taxpayers
of the City of Edgewater need to pick up the tab for this.
She is not adverse to Mr. Ajram reimbursing the City for
the expenses they spent and waiving the rest of it.
Councilwoman Bennington stated she would go along with what
Councilwoman Rhodes said but she doesn’t want the City to
start doing this as a routine thing because it’s not a City
matter. It’s a civil matter between Mr. Ajram and the
renter if he did something illegal to his building without
his knowledge. They shouldn’t under normal circumstances
be involved in waiving a fee. It is his responsibility as
the owner and leaseholder to make sure that things are on
the up and up. This one time she would go along with Vice
Mayor Rhodes and would be willing to waive it but she
wanted to make it on the record that she doesn’t agree with
them doing this in the future for everyone that has this
problem. It is because of the way he has kept the property
all these years that she would even consider it.
Councilman Cooper asked what the dollar difference was with
regard to man-hours spent verses the fines. City Manager
Barlow stated out of pocket was $140 and they were showing
$325 in fines.
Councilwoman Bennington made a motion that they grant this
one time exception with Mr. Ajram paying the $140 in
administrative costs, second by Councilman Cooper
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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B.Selection of firms to provide Surveying Services
and authorization for the City Manager to execute
the associated Agreements
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Vice Mayor Rhodes asked for citizen comment. There was
none at this time.
Vice Mayor Rhodes asked for Council comment.
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Councilman Cooper asked if there was a sizeable increase
from previous contracts to this new one. City Manager
Barlow didn’t know where the fees landed. When the others
expire they have to renew them. Councilman Cooper stated
he was just wondering if it was now a sizeable cost
increase. City Manager Barlow agreed to get back to him on
that.
Vice Mayor Rhodes stated it wouldn’t make the bids any
different or the process any different if they knew what
the fees were.
Councilwoman Bennington made a motion to accept staff’s
recommendation for the surveying and authorize the City
Manager to execute the agreements, second by Councilman
Cooper
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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C.Selection of firm to provide Arborist Services
and authorization for the City Manager to execute
the associated Agreement
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve Zev Cohen & Associates
to perform arborist services and attached agreement for the
arborist, second by Councilwoman Bennington
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The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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D.Selection of a contractor for the installation of
the amphitheater roof and authorization for the
City Manager to execute the associated Agreement
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
City Attorney Ansay stated the contract in the agenda
packet had been revised substantially but it mirrors the
standard contract terms they saw in the previous
agreements. The substance in terms of the amounts, etc.
are all the same. The agreement that will ultimately be
executed by the City Manager will be one she has made
changes to and it’s not the exact form they see in the
agenda packet.
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Councilman Cooper asked if there was any other stimulus
money they may have been able to go after or may still be
able to go after. City Manager Barlow stated he wasn’t
aware of any. If they continue to push the project out
they will miss out on the ECHO grant.
Councilwoman Bennington made a motion to authorize the
Mayor and City Manager to enter into a contract agreement
with Billco Construction Inc. for $79,100.00 to design and
construct an Amphitheater Roof per guidelines and
specifications set forth in the RFB #09-LS-001, second by
Councilman Cooper
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
.
Councilwoman Bennington made a motion to approve the Budget
Amendment moving money from the Recreational Impact Fee
Fund and establishing the EHCO grant revenue, second by
Councilman Cooper
.
The MOTION CARRIED 3-0
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E.Staff requesting additional information from the
Volusia Growth Management Commission (VGMC)
regarding the City of Deltona’s Water Supply Plan
Comprehensive Plan Amendment
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Bennington and Vice Mayor Rhodes both had a
serious problem with their utility service area backing up
to our utility service area.
It was the consensus of Council to keep on moving.
Councilman Cooper asked if there was a consensus with
Deltona for any movement at all, like to bring the line
back to SR 415. City Manager Barlow stated they didn’t
want to open that can of worms because of concerns the
County has.
Councilman Cooper stated hypothetically if they were to
move the red lines back to SR 415, would we be redoing our
plan to expand our lines to that 415 border. City Manager
Barlow stated State Statute permits us to petition the
Department of Community Affairs to allow us to extend that
utility service area.
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City Manager Barlow stated what could happen through this
whole process was there is an opportunity that New Smyrna
Beach, Edgewater and the County, which the County and
everybody for quite some time has talked about doing a
Joint Planning Area Agreement out there and that may be a
stipulation of Volusia Growth Management. They may
actually ask the County Council, Edgewater and Deltona and
possibly New Smyrna Beach to get together and possibly do a
joint planning area agreement.
Councilman Cooper stated by all means go forward.
There were no further comments on this issue.
11.OFFICER REPORTS
A.City Clerk
City Clerk Wenzel had nothing at this time.
B.City Attorney
City Attorney Ansay had nothing at this time.
C.City Manager
City Manager Barlow commented on the Boston Road Traffic
Directing Device that was brought up. They went out and
evaluated that and it was staff’s recommendation to leave
that as it is.
City Manager Barlow then commented on Christmas being on
Friday. He asked Council to consider authorizing Christmas
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Eve, December 24 off and those employees that are required
to work would be credited an extra floating holiday, which
would be a very minimal financial impact to the City.
Councilwoman Bennington asked if that was the only day and
questioned if it was also New Year’s Eve.
City Manager Barlow stated he only did Christmas at this
time. Council could certainly consider that. They have
another meeting before then.
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It was the consensus of Council to close on December 24.
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City Manager Barlow informed Council on November 23, 2009
at 6:30 p.m. in Deland at Stetson there was going to be a
Business Development Partnership meeting if anyone was
interested.
City Manager Barlow reminded Council the next Council
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meeting would be on December 14.
12.CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Bill Glaser
, 1703 Needle Palm Drive, commented on the City
still collecting sidewalk impact fees. He asked how much
money they had in that fund now. Mr. Glaser was informed
Finance Director McKinney wasn’t there and City Manager
Barlow didn’t know off the top of his head. Mr. Glaser
asked if it was okay if he spoke with him tomorrow. City
Manager Barlow informed him absolutely.
Mr. Glaser stated a while back, a couple years ago at
least, there was a conversation or discussion about
sidewalks in Florida Shores for the youngsters going to
school. He asked the status of that.
Councilman Cooper thought he was talking about the
sidewalks on Mango Tree Drive. That comes up in 2010. Mr.
Lear commented on this being done by Volusia County.
Mr. Glaser if there were any other plans or use for that
sidewalk impact fee money in the City. City Manager Barlow
stated he didn’t think they had anything identified. Mr.
Lear stated they were going to try to use it as a matching
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grant for 30 Street.
Councilman Cooper informed Mr. Glaser there were a few
other things. There was discussion in reference to Jack’s
lakes and turning them into some kind of parks and picnics
and sidewalks for there. He spoke of being short on funds.
Mr. Glaser was disappointed Mayor Thomas wasn’t there. He
had a very interesting discussion. As he walks around Lake
Laura, he thought it had been renamed to Duck Lake Park, he
notices a lot of dog poop and asked if the Mayor would like
to reinstitute his pooper snoopers to see if they could
catch these dastardly folks that are doing these deeds.
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Vice Mayor Rhodes suggested he ask Mayor Thomas at the next
meeting.
City Manager Barlow stated in the meantime they would try
to do extra patrol there as well.
Councilman Cooper stated they had their second CEDES
meeting. The businessmen that have stepped up and attended
this meeting, this is exciting stuff. He hasn’t seen other
than when they had their Visioning meetings, this kind of
effort and this kind of interest. Edgewater is moving
forward.
Bob McIntosh
, 2921 Sabal Palm Drive, stated he hadn’t
planned on giving a report because they haven’t moved quite
as far as he thought they were going to move. They set
goals for the Committee as far as how far they want to get
in six months, where they want to be. They want to have a
Comprehensive Plan drawn up in that time frame so they can
apply for additional funding through ARRAfunds and State
bucks to assist in economic development within the City.
13.ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman
Bennington moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 7:50
p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
Attest: APPROVED:
City of Edgewater, Florida
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Bonnie Wenzel, City Clerk Michael L. Thomas, Mayor
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