07-15-1991 - Public Information & Discussion Meeting
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
PUBLIC INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION MEETING
JULY 15, 1991
MINUTES
Vice Mayor Martin called to order the Public Information and Discussion Meeting
on the Florida Shores Improvement Area Special Assessment Program at 8:14 p.m.
in the Community Center.
Ron Ferland, of Dyer, Riddle, Mills & Precourt, the City's Consulting Engineers,
stated the City's wastewater collection system is approximately 337,000 lineal
feet of 8" collection lines, about 1,000 manholes and 11 pumping stations. He
said two are upgraded to take additional flows from the Florida Shores area and
they'll take the wastewater from Florida Shores to the treatment plant.
Mr. Ferland stated the wastewater treatment plant expansion is to expand from
1 to 2.25 MGD and upgrade the treatment process from secondary to advanced.
A gentleman in the audience asked if it's a new plant or upgrade and expansion.
Mr. Ferland replied it's upgrade and expansion. The gentleman asked if they'll
take the old plant and have a new plant. Mr. Ferland replied he'll take out the
guts and use the existing plant site. Vice Mayor Martin asked the audience to
wait until the presentation is completed to ask questions. Mr. Ferland stated
it's an upgrade from secondary to advanced treatment and he reviewed the process.
He explained that's for continued discharge to the Indian River and provides
level of treatment.
Mr. Ferland stated the third component is reclaimed water facilities that will
be put in throughout the assessment district. He pointed out they'll be digging
up roads anyway to put in the system and will put in 137,380 lineal feet of
various sizes of distribution piping throughout Florida Shores. He explained
the projects will eliminate the public health hazard due to septic tank use due
to soil conditions. He added they're providing protection of Class II waters
of Mosquito Lagoon and 10% wastewater effluent disposal by reclaimed water use
as required by the Consumptive Use Permit and St. Johns River Water Management
District requires the City use 10% in a reclaimed system and to meet recent
legislative requirements for discharge to the Indian River. He said it's also
to provide additional capacity to Florida Shores and at build out they'd allocate
1.12 MGD. He noted existing customer flow is approximately 650,000 GD which
would leave about 480,000 GD outside Florida Shores.
Mr. Ferland reviewed a breakdown of project costs, displayed on flip charts, with
the following construction cost estimates: collection system - $13,562,000;
wastewater treatment plant - $7,648,854; and, reclaimed water system -
$1,641,640. He explained 1/2% of the construction figure is design allowance.
He stated construction management and resident inspector and design engineer or
engineer of record has to assist the City to make sure facilities are operated
in conjunction with the way they're supposed to be and make any modifications
necessary to perform functions they're supposed to perform. He explained there's
a SRF audit and he doesn't know how much that will be so he used rough figures.
He said the loan reserve is normally one year's debt service payment and with
SRF it's only 15% of your annual payment so it won't burden a community. He said
you have capitalized interest for 3 years for collection system and reclaimed
water and the treatment plant is 2 years interest. He stated it's 3-1/2% of the
FY-92 SRF amount for the DER administrative fee, which applies only to the
collection and reclaimed systems. He said total project costs are: $17,092,721
for collection system; $9,106,987 for wastewater treatment plant; and $2,288,541
for reclaimed water.
Mr. Ferland explained the collection system will be 100% special assessment and
they took the total collection project cost and divided by the equivalent lots
in the district, which is 40 x 125 deep, a standard platted lot in Florida
Shores, and there's approximately 14,955 equivalent lots including Cherokee
Ridge. He stated it's $1,143 per equivalent lot so with 2 lots, you pay 2 times,
3 lots would be 3 times, etc. He explained the theory of front footage is if
you have two lots it will take the City 80 feet of line to go across your lot
in the road there, and 4 lots will be 160 feet of line.
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Mr. Ferland stated the interest payment is 4-1/2% and 1% for administrative costs
for collecting the special assessment which is what the City will have to pay
to the County for administering the special assessment program for the City.
He explained with 20 year repayment on the collection system and a 4% discount
for early tax payment applied the annual payment is $99.71 for an equivalent lot
and 2 lots would be $199.42 per year.
Mr. Ferland stated the wastewater treatment plant project total cost is
$9,106,987, using $886,000 impact fees on hand rather than borrowing that amount,
and the project cost to be funded by State Revolving Fund loans is $8,220,987.
He added 50% of the cost to be funded will be by user fees which equates to
$316,000 a year debt service. He explained 50% is allocated to Florida Shores
and they took the grant and applied it to the Florida Shores assessment which
lowered the amount to $2,110,492. He added they divided that by equivalent
parcels and took the contiguous lots owned by one owner with a building on it
but they had to do it manually and may not have found everybody. He explained
there are approximately 6,028 equivalent parcels developed and undeveloped
throughout Florida Shores and an equivalent parcel is used to measure wastewater
treatment capacity used by that parcel with one residence being one equivalent
unit and it's not going to be more than one piece of a treatment plant.
Ms. Clayton stated they're paying for the collection system by front feet and
the capacity of the plant by the house, so one house on 6 lots will have one
connection to the plant, but if in the future they decide to split off, at the
time they connect to the plant they'll have to pay an impact fee. She added
that's the fee that will justify the difference between front feet and sewer
connection by equivalent parcel.
Mr. Ferland stated it will be $350 per equivalent parcel and on a yearly basis
with 20 years and 4% discount the annual cost is $30.53 per equivalent parcel.
Mr. Ferland stated the reclaimed water system, which is effluent disposal, total
cost is $2,288,541 and because of the way treatment plant costs are being
assessed the reclaimed water system costs will be allocated the same way. He
said 50% is funded by user fees and 50% by special assessments and it's $190
per equivalent parcel, or $16.57 a year per equivalent parcel. Ms. Clayton asked
if this system is cheaper than some other types of disposal. Mr. Ferland replied
this is the most cost effective they found in the 201 Facilities Plan. Ms.
Clayton asked if this technique is the most effective they can find. Mr. Ferland
replied for in Edgewater.
Mr. Ferland reviewed the assessment method versus the current method (as outlined
in attached).
Mr. Ferland explained if a house is on equivalent parcels with one owner, it's
assessed one ERU on one equivalent parcel, and if in the future they sell some
lots off, then when that person gets ready to build they would be subdividing
an equivalent parcel. He added they haven't paid their treatment plant capacity
and will pay for the collection system assessment that's based on the number of
lots and will have to pay a wastewater development fee of $1,425, or whatever
it is when they pull their building permit.
Mr. Ferland then reviewed the cost impacts to users in the special assessment
district (last page of attached report).
Mr. Ferland explained there's a map in City Hall to show the different phases
or anyone can call the City Clerk to find out which phase they're in. He noted
phase 1 is tax year 1992, which is November, 1992, through April, 1993. He added
each construction phase will take approximately one year to complete and they'll
start phase 1 October, 1991, and be complete October, 1992, and then phase 2 will
start 6 months later, or April, 1992, and phase 2 is 3 months later and phase
4 is October, 1992, to October, 1993. He pointed out the entire project is
estimated to take 2 years to complete and construction will be overlapping. He
explained you have to determine what phase you1re in to determine if you'll start
paying in 1992 or 1993. He said the notices had some glitches and some people
weren't assessed correctly and if anyone thinks they're not assessed correctly
they should contact the City Clerk or City Manager and give the parcel number,
name and address to check it against a master list to resolve the problem. He
added if adjustments need to be made, they'll reissue attachment IIAII and correct
the assessment roll.
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Councilperson Gillespie asked that someone from Briley, Wild explain the effluent
for the rest of the City. A gentleman from Briley, Wild stated the firm prepared
a program for the rest of the City and looked at different applications for reuse
and decided the most economical was to get rid of it by irrigation. Ms. Clayton
noted the report was done in conjunction with administrative proceedings.
Councilperson Gillespie stated the administrative hearing settlement required
the City to come up with a plan for effluent for the rest of the City that wasn't
covered in this assessment. Ms. Clayton explained the administrative hearing
was brought about by Volusia-Flagler Environmental Political Action Committee
and the motivation was to require the City to cease allowing its effluent to
reach the Mosquito Lagoon, and Briley, Wild came up with a technique to prevent
wastewater from reaching the Lagoon.
A gentleman in the audience asked how it will be financed. Council person
Gillespie replied the balance is on a user fee and they're going after a
stormwater 1 million dollar grant.
Wilbur Geho, 2229 Pine Tree Drive, stated he understands they'll be forced to
use this water and that's not constitutional. He said he has a well and it costs
$72-$76 a year to sprinkle his lawn. Councilman Hays asked if it's hooked up
to the well. Mr. Geho replied yes and he won't have to use effluent return
because it will cost about 3 times more a year. Councilman Hays explained
effluent return is a means to deal with disposing of effluent versus dumping it
in the River and it will be available to homes but if you have a well and don't
choose to hook up or use it, no one will make you do it. He noted it could be
when the pump fails or he gets salt water intrusion, he may be happy to have the
reuse available. He added it will benefit everyone in the City to use effluent
because they're dealing with a City problem. Mr. Geho stated he pays for water
coming in and going out and now it would be for coming back again.
Ms. Clayton stated as a condition of the City getting a consumptive use permit
to supply potable water, you're required to wean people from using potable water
for irrigation and the CUP is tied to use of gray or reuse water for irrigation
purposes and has significant long term impact on reserves of fresh water.
Councilperson Gillespie pointed out that people spray their lawns and it runs
back into the River when it rains and reuse will take care of that.
Mrs. Gleesing, 2316 Tamarind, said she cannot use her air conditioner without
water. Mr. Ferland explained she can hook up her water to air and use reclaimed
water. Councilperson Gillespie said they took away her water to air in Brevard
County and it will probably be 10 years down the road before she has a problem.
Mrs. Gleesing asked if there's an option. Councilperson Gillespie replied yes.
Councilman Jones noted the well water has a lot of iron in it and stains the
house and you won't have that problem with reuse water and when there's a drought
there won't be restrictions. Vice Mayor Martin stated she had the water
conditioner system and because of salt she had to change the system.
Ms. Clayton noted a survey was taken to find out where the interest was so
installation of reuse lines and availability of water would go first to the areas
where there was higher interest.
George Naill, 1604 Royal Palm, stated the calculation of pipe was equated to
lineal feet to number of lots. Mr. Ferland explained it's the physical lineal
feet of pipe. Mr. Naill asked how they account for cross roads and who pays for
the intersection. Mr. Ferland explained you take the total project cost with
manholes and pipes and collection systems and plants and divide by the number
of equivalent lots and piping going through public rights of way are being paid
by people in the assessment district which is the normal way it would be assessed
if it were front foot.
John Finch, 2230 Umbrella Tree, stated it will cost him $5,112 for wastewater
collection and treatment and that's a lot of money when he's retired and it's
a hardship because he knows this isn't the bottom line. He said Mr. Ferland
doesn't care about his problems and doesn't live here and wouldn't live here if
he were given a lot. He referred to water bills 5 years ago of a little over
$10 a month and now over $20 a month, and with the sewer it will probably run
$40 plus this and everything else. He stated he doesn't think this is fair or
legal and they need to find an attorney in Florida Shores and get an injunction
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John Finch (Continued) against Council on this whole process and this type of
billing. Councilman Hays reminded Mr. Finch he has an estimate on the assessment
and the estimates were greater when they started. Mr. Finch asked if they will
be higher. Councilman Hays said the goal has been to minimize those assessments
and up to this point they've done that and after tonight they'll do it more.
He pointed out the bonds were less than $14 million and they'd started out quite
a bit more and were able to lower that. He explained the project has to be done,
it's necessary and the majority of the people agree, and Council's trying to find
the best way to do the project. He stated that, according to the State, we're
proceeding in a legal manner and he hates to see an impression given to the
public like this. Mr. Finch asked if it's fair to pay double because he has two
lots on each side and he built in the middle. Councilman Hays explained he'll
pay for the pipe laid in the ground in front of his property as the amount
assessed is the front foot assessment. Mr. Finch stated he only has one house.
Ms. Clayton explained the collection and treatment are separate components and
he's being charged on the collection system by the foot and the treatment system
is by the house. She noted there's an alternative of being sued by those people
who would like the City to discontinue polluting Mosquito Lagoon and at some
point the cost for litigation would meet the cost proposed now for upgrading the
plant. Mr. Finch stated New Smyrna Beach must be polluting the water also. Ms.
Clayton noted if you look at jurisdictions around the State, those faced with
similar issues have used similar techniques, and this is being modeled from them.
There was brief discussion about the $600 to abandon the septic tank. Mr. Finch
stated he doesn't know of an ordinance that allows special assessments and an
injunction should be issued to determine if it's legal.
Henrv Dardinski, 2704 Sabal Palm, commended Council, Ms. Clayton, and Mr. Ferland
for the great job they've done. He stated some people are being penalized that
have extra lots and were conservation minded and the basis of the present special
assessment is discriminatory. He said the major cost is elimination of waste-
water and with the wastewater line in front of each lot, why should he have to
pay twice as much as his neighbor who only has two lots. He stated itls
discriminatory and unfair. He asked that consideration be given when you only
have one home, regardless of how many lots, as long as you built the house and
are occupying the lots. Ms. Clayton explained each house is only assessed for
one, the treatment component is assessed per house. Mr. Oardinski stated if
there's only one source you're not increasing the amount of wastewater you're
putting into that line. Councilman Jones stated if he has 4 lots he'll only be
charged for one equivalent lot for the wastewater disposal. Ms. Clayton
explained it's collection to get wastewater and transport by pipe to the
treatment plant and the second phase is wastewater treatment. She pointed out
it's going from secondary to advanced wastewater treatment facilities which is
the highest level of treatment and then you do the third phase which is disposal
of it by reuse or irrigation method. She noted the collection is the most
expensive because of pipe lines that go miles throughout the system and they'll
be bid by front foot the same as a sidewalk. Mr. Oardinski stated he has a 10"
line in front of his house but they're being charged $1,100 per lot and it's only
one source, the one house, going into the system. He asked why he should be
charged 50 or 100% more because he's not putting more wastewater into it.
Councilman Hays stated his problem is that in front of his house is a 10" main
and somewhere down the road is 24" so he's paying for 24" and is using it also.
He explained you cannot collect sewage from the other houses along the street
without getting into a larger pipe, they're all part of the same system, and the
sewage has to be transported from the house through the pipes to the lift station
and to the plant and then treated.
Mr. Oardinski stated they're discriminating against people with 3 or 4 lots and
they can't show him it will cost twice as much to move sewage along the line.
Mr. Ferland explained if he was on an unpaved street when the prior assessment
was done, it was based on length of paving that had to be done in front of your
lot and you pay more than people with less lots and the wastewater collection
assessment concept is the same, based on front footage. A lady in the audience
stated if you have more, you Ire going to pay more. Mr. Ferland replied for the
treatment plant you only pay for one house regardless of how many lots it is on.
Paul Zimmer, 1511 Mango Tree, stated he has about 6 lots on one side of the
street and 2 on the other on a corner and asked if that will be the way the pipe
line goes. Mr. Ferland replied it's based on how many platted lots. After brief
discussion, it was learned Mr. Zimmer did not get an assessment notice and is
not in the assessment district.
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Mr. Zimmer asked if they're sure the environmental people will let us continue
to put treated wastewater in the River. Councilperson Gillespie explained that's
why they're doing this and we're stopping and not going to dump. She added
there's a State law that everyone has to stop by 1995. Mr. Zimmer asked what
the City will do then. Councilperson Gillespie explained that's why it's going
to the homes and by 1995 100% will be going back. Councilman Hays noted the only
time we'd put treated water in is during a hurricane when nobody can take it and
because of the treatment level it won't have the environmental impact of what
we're putting into the River now. Mr. Zimmer asked about charges for businesses
and industries. Councilperson Gillespie replied that's figured separately. Ms.
Clayton explained they'll have a separate and higher charge. Mr. Zimmer asked
what those charges are. Councilperson Gillespie suggested he see Mr. Munoz for
the information. Ms. Clayton explained this is just about residential
assessments. Mr. Ferland noted it's along Guava and Hibiscus and some others.
Mr. Zimmer asked about Park Avenue. Mr. Ferland replied it's not being assessed.
David Molnar, Travelers Palm, stated he has a geo therm heat pump and has his
own water and doesn't need this water. He said nobody will make him throw out
his geo therm system because his bills for air conditioning are $70. He asked
why he should pay for reuse water. Councilman Hays pointed out reuse water
being returned to the homes is treated sewage he sent to the plant and he may
choose not to use this but it's the City's responsibility to deal with sewage
and stop putting it into the Indian River. Mr. Molnar stated it's the City's
problem for the water to go into places that are environmentally safe and other
cities discharge into swamps because it1s good for the swamps. Councilman Hays
noted it costs more because it's farther. Mr. Molnar stated he's already paying
for water and if he's paying for recharge water he's paying for the same water.
Councilperson Gillespie stated he may be paying for the service to get rid of
the water but he's providing it to them and the City has to dispose of it and
the Hammock may be a protected place. Mr. Molnar suggested the City find
somewhere to dump it but not to his yard. Councilman Hays pointed out if nobody
wants to receive this effluent they can find other options but it will cost more.
Mr. Molnar asked that they find more options. Councilman Hays asked if he's
willing to pay more. Mr. Molnar replied it's up to Council to find out.
Councilperson Gillespie agreed they would. Councilman Hays explained the City
looked at deep wells and buying property for retention ponds and other options
and the most economically feasible way is to return it and put it on the lawns.
There was discussion regarding the high quality of the reuse water and if there
should be a fee charged to take care of effluent water. Mr. Molnar asked why
there's a 4.5 and 5.5% interest rate mentioned. Councilperson Gillespie
explained the loans are 4.23% and 1% is figured for collection by the County.
Mr. Molnar stated this is the first he's heard of this. Councilperson Gillespie
pointed out the CIP was started in 1982. Mr. Molnar asked if they could raise
the interest rate over the 20 years. Ms. Clayton explained there's an agreement
with the State that for the life of the loan the interest rate is set and it's
not an adjustable rate, it's a fixed rate. Mr. Molnar asked if it's fixed for
20 years. Ms. Clayton replied they pay the State 4.23 or up to 4.5%, and the
fee, which is a percentage of 1%, is paid to Volusia County for administrative
costs for tax collection.
Anthony Bocskor, 3003 Yule Tree, suggested limiting discussion by each person
to 2 or 3 minutes to allow time for everyone. Councilperson Gillespie explained
there's a 3 minute rule they should have announced. Mr. Bocskor stated he has
an irrigation system and wonders why they want to charge for gray water if
there's difficulty disposing of it. Councilperson Gillespie stated she'd like
to give it free but they have to pay for pipes. Ms. Clayton noted some juris-
dictions are using a free distribution system but she' not sure that will be the
final solution because they discussed at a meeting this afternoon how to
encourage citizens to use reclaim for irrigation so they can dispose of more
and not util ize more expensive holding techniques. Mr. Bocskor stated only
people with irrigation systems could use it or it would cost them double.
Vice Mayor Martin recessed the meeting at 9:38 p.m. and called it back to order
at 9:46 p.m.
Mr. Fisher, 3209 Vista Palm, asked how much time will be given to pay it up front
after he's hooked to the sewer. Councilperson Gillespie replied the ordinance
says it's upon hook up. There was brief discussion regarding the latitude for
paying up front. Mr. Munoz pointed out he'll get the bill before hook up to the
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sewer system but won't have to pay until after he's hooked up and it will be
billed October/November, 1992 and he won't have to pay until April, 1993. Mr.
Fisher stated he lives two blocks away from the canal and has to pay for
stormwater and the nearest fire hydrant is on Vista. Councilperson Gillespie
explained they're working on it and are over 300 fire hydrants short but Mr.
Wadsworth is putting them in as fast as they can get them budgeted and in.
8;11 Sm;th, 2629 Victory Palm, asked if Mr. Ferland is recommending that Florida
Shores be special assessed for the new treatment plant, which he believes is a
new plant. He asked how the rest of Edgewater will pay for it because they'll
also pay user fees. He asked if he'll pay $540 up front and then user fees.
Mr. Ferland replied yes. Mr. Smith stated it will be a couple of years before
it's put in and he asked how much user fees will be then. Mr. Ferland replied
the highest is in 1994. Mr. Smith stated it's unfair to pay $540 up front and
then pay a user fee when the rest of Edgewater is paying only user fees.
Adele Sedor, 2304 Pine Tree, asked what it will cost to connect to the system.
Councilperson Gillespie replied now it's $150 but they haven't made a decision.
Mr. Ferland explained that previously it was decided the connection fee for the
wastewater system would be $150 and it would be part of the assessment and that's
part of the construction cost of the laterals would be up to the front line and
it's the homeowner's responsibility to hook up to that lateral. He added the
homeowner's cost is septic tank abandonment of about $605 and you can do your
own laterals. There was brief discussion regarding plumbers doing the hookups.
Councilperson Gillespie stated septic tanks have to be by State licensed
qualified people only. Mr. Ferland explained the process of abandoning the
septic tanks. Councilperson Gillespie stated $275 for pumping and filling isn't
a bad price. Mr. Ferland pointed out $275 is for the septic tank but you have
to run the line from the property line. Councilperson Gillespie suggested Ms.
Sedor contact her for more information as she's had the procedure explained by
plumbers. Ms. Sedor asked if people on the other side of the railroad tracks
paid a sewer system impact fee. Councilperson Gillespie replied no, and she
lived on Magnolia and paid nothing and she put in her own laterals and her septic
tank was abandoned and she only started paying for it.
Councilman Jones stated the majority of the current sewer treatment users paid
impact fees. Ms. Sedor stated Riverside Drive and those on the other side of
the tracks paid only a hook up fee. Councilperson Gillespie said initially it
was 689 homes and they paid nothing but they're still researching that. Ms.
Sedor stated she's willing to pay her fair share but doesn't think it's right
to have to pay for other homes that have been there and they get the use of this
and their lines.
8;11 Sm;th asked if it's Florida law if the whole City has the same usage of an
item, the whole City pays for it because he thinks the whole City should pay for
this new plant. Ms. Clayton replied it's being paid for by the whole City.
Rav Anderson, 1905 S. Riverside Drive, stated if you built a house in 1987 you
paid an impact fee and older homes did not. Ms. Sedor asked how much he paid.
Mr. Anderson replied $1,700 for water and sewer.
M;ke 8;11;ck, 2528 Lime Tree, United Taxpayers of Edgewater, asked Council if
this is a new wastewater treatment plant. Councilman Hays replied yes, it's a
new facility that will utilize a few small portions insofar as a hold tank that's
existing and as far as processing facility it's new but what's existing now will
be redone or refurbished and used in the future. He said he thinks it's a new
plant but some old facilities will be used as far as the plant facility itself.
Mr. Billick asked if Council agrees that in the past Florida Shores residents
helped pay for the plant and sewers that were put in in the rest of the City.
Councilperson Gillespie replied yes, because water underwrites sewer and the way
the utilities tax used to be. Mr. Billick stated he hopes the rest of the
Council will agree that it will be fair and equitable. Council members indicated
agreement. Mr. Billick stated United Taxpayers has always said the way this is
done is unfair and inequitable to Florida Shores residents because of the way
they helped pay for the system. He said he talked with DER about the $2 million
they gave Edgewater, not to Florida Shores, and Mr. Ferland said he took 50% and
50% and Florida Shores is bigger so they should pay more so then they should get
more of the grant. He added they took the other portion belonging to the rest
of the City and gave it to Florida Shores because of the inequities. Mr. Ferland
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stated he doesn't dispute that. Mr. Billick requested an extension on his
speaking time and no Council member objected. Mr. Billick stated this is a new
treatment plant and it has to be built and if Florida Shores does not hook up
it still has to be built. He said they've been told scare tactics but Don
Berryhill said they won't lose the loan as long as they go forward and when they
have the equalization is when they need to be heard. He stated this is spread
out and before June 1, when they had the rate increase for sewer, the cost for
6,000 gallons was $17.65 and the rate went to $18.70 June 1st, which is $1.05
a month increase, or $12.60 the first year. He said by 1994 all sewer customers
will pay $78.84. He said they're taking care of the plant now and the first
person coming on line will pay $416.24 and section 3 will pay $380.32, with the
last one in section 4 paying $350.
Mr. Billick stated this entire assessment and the way the user fees are being
charged is unfair and it's double dipping. He said they'll be assessed first
for the plant and then user fees and everyone will benefit from the plant and
will put their waste into that treatment plant and they have to get rid of it.
He noted if they follow the plan he suggested they'll be taking water the rest
of the City is pouring into the wastewater treatment plant and charge a user
fee for it. He said the objective is to do away with assessment and the solution
is to charge everyone the same and nobody will say it's unfair or inequitable
and they won't complain they poured their money into the current plant.
Mr. Billick stated everyone pays $3.00 for stormwater and asked how many have
had anything done with their stormwater. He asked how much has been spent in
Shangri-La and Wildwood, as he heard it was $130,000 for Shangri-La. Council-
person Gillespie agreed they work on the stormwater drainage problem of Shangri-
La. Dominick Fazzone stated it's at the other end. Mr. Billick stated they got
screwed by the developer and the City released the bond. He asked if he knew
Mr. Ferland recommended there be an assessment in Shangri-La and Wildwood. Mr.
Fazzone replied yes. Mr. Billick said all that came out of it was the $3.00
charge for stormwater.
Mr. Billick stated they presented Council with a remedy to make it fair and
equitable and if they're going to get fairness and equity they'll have to back
the United Taxpayers and they'll make it fair and equitable and not the way it's
being ramrodded down their throats.
George Ewing, 2923 Royal Palm, emphasized the large crowd present and asked that
everyone in Florida Shores let everyone else know there's going to be an
equalization hearing August 6th.
Dominick Fazzone, 302 Paradise Lane, Shangri-La, stated this Council has worked
very hard and tried to be fair and if they let Council do their job, they'll do
it right without being coerced or forced by other groups. He said he ran for
Council and was defeated and it was on a platform of a fair and equitable
solution to the CIP. He quoted from a newspaper article written by UTE. He
said he doesn't dispute the fact these people have paid something over the years
but the statement was made that Mr. Munoz didn't tell the people that user fees
of uti 1 ity taxes paid 98% of the cost of the current sewer system that was
installed throughout the City and Florida Shores wasn't included in this system.
He stated there are six subdivisions in this City that paid impact fees and user
fees and they've paid wastewater fees in the last 10-13 years and didn't get a
dime from the City. He added the older homes didn't pay but they're looking at
a population of about 4,000 then. He said the City's grown so fast the last 10
years and it's at 15-16,000 and all these people paid outside Florida Shores for
impact fees and user fees. He asked if it's fair to charge people for something
they already paid for as 98% of the present system until 1988 was paid by utility
tax and water fees. Councilperson Gillespie stated she has the paper work and
will show him facts and figures. Mr. Fazzone noted she'd said that previously
and he still doesn't have it. Councilperson Gillespie stated Totem Park and
Highland Park were two subdivisions that came in free.
Al Keaton, 3029 Kumquat Drive, stated he talked with Gates Castle earlier in the
year and for every 1/2 million gallons that you don't use for the reuse program,
you have to have a 60 by 100 foot pit, which is a lot of land. He stated if and
when a sewer system has been put in, the value of that property has kept pace,
not quite as fast, but from his experience as a realtor it will keep pace.
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Linda Stevens, 3214 Silver Palm, asked if they're building and sinking 5 new
wells to the West as part of the CIP. Councilperson Gillespie replied yes, they
spent 1/2 million for a new wellfield. Utilities Director Terry A. Wadsworth
explained there's some intrusion in the Eastern wellfield but the rest is to
provide capacity at the new plant. Ms. Stevens asked if it will benefit everyone
in Edgewater. Councilperson Gillespie replied yes, plus a 2 mile radius around
Edgewater. Ms. Stevens asked if only Florida Shores will pay. Councilperson
Gillespie replied no, everyone will pay but they took paving and stormwater out
and left in water and sewer and effluent. She added there's a water and sewer
plant going up. Ms. Stevens asked how someone in Edgewater Landing or on Park
Avenue would pay for water. Councilperson Gillespie explained everyone is paying
that and it's a 5-year program. Ms. Stevens asked how they'll know there's no
AIDS virus or anything else with reuse. Councilperson Gillespie replied that's
all taken care of by the Federal government and they won't be drinking it, it
will be for watering lawns. She added they don't recommend they water while the
children are awake and at schools they recommend times at night when children
aren't there. She referred to an instance in St. Pete when a family hooked up
to it in error and used it. She noted the locked boxes are your responsibility.
Ms. Stevens asked about paying off the old bonds. Council person Gillespie
replied it was $4.7 million and it was used for engineering and other costs and
it's being audited now and she can receive a copy of where every cent went.
Dennis O'Brien, Juniper Drive, stated he owns 8 lots with two houses and he
bought it with the intention that there would be sewer and paving and they knew
it would cost money but his property values will reflect it. He said he has no
problem with the way Council has gone about it and it's a great rate at 5.5%
and if they don't take advantage of it, it will cost millions of dollars in
interest if it goes higher. He wished Council good luck and said they're doing
a good job and should pass it as soon as possible.
Fred Breziner, 2932 Queen Palm, asked if the plant is strictly for residential
or if it's for commercial. Councilperson Gillespie replied the plant serves the
entire community. Mr. Breziner asked if they have commercial hookups. Council-
person Gillespie replied yes. Mr. Breziner stated they'd better have a good
treatment system. Councilperson Gillespie noted it's the Cadillac of all of
them. Mr. Breziner asked how many people are on duty. Mr. Ferland replied two
per shift, 24 hours a day. Mr. Breziner asked if they're registered, licensed
operators. Councilperson Gillespie and Mr. Ferland replied yes. Councilperson
Gillespie added they take updated courses all the time and she just took a course
with two of them. Mr. Breziner asked if they'll allow other industries to come
in. Councilman Hays replied our Industrial Development Board addresses that and
they're stressing clean industries and will look at any industry for byproducts
to be sure it won't have contaminants put into the system. He expressed
appreciation for Mr. Breziner's concern and added he's concerned also. Mr.
Breziner stated the price of this plant is too high. Councilperson Gillespie
noted it went up and if it had been built when it should have been, it would be
about half of this. Mr. Breziner asked if they provided for infiltration when
it rains and if the plant is big enough to handle it. Councilperson Gillespie
replied yes. Mr. Breziner asked about 5 years from now. Mr. Ferland noted it's
until 2000. Councilperson Gillespie said they're planning for extra repair and
replacement for the plant and the only thing that could have been more updated
is the membrane. Mr. Ferland agreed, for the water treatment, adding they have
state of the art on both plants.
Ms. Clayton suggested they announce a time and place of the next meeting so
people know when to come back. Councilperson Gillespie stated it's August 6.
Mr. Ferland added July 29 and August 3 are information sessions. Councilperson
Gillespie noted they're different times, one is Saturday to accommodate people.
Councilman Jones stated UTE mentioned fair and equitable and he thinks that's
what Council's trying to do and he hasn't seen a better plan from UTE. He said
people in Edgewater Landing and Wildwood and other areas paid their share and
he has relatives in Florida Shores and this is the best plan he's seen so far.
He added he thinks Mr. Ferland did an excellent job and got us the State
Revolving Fund loan at a good rate and the grant which doesn't have to be paid
back. He added he hears they paid utility taxes from 1964 to 1988 when they
changed it but there were probably 1,100 people in 1964. Mr. Munoz explained
it started going into the general fund in October, 1988. Councilman Jones said
they could try to figure out every dime spent by Florida Shores but they don't
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know the people to send rebates to. He stated almost a $2 million dollar grant
put into the Florida Shores area is a good idea to help solve the problem and
if there's a better and fairer way, helll be for it.
Councilperson Gillespie moved they go back to the regular meeting. Councilman
Hays seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0. Meeting was adjourned at 10:35
p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
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1. Eliminate public health hazards caused by septic tank use
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2. Upgrade treatment to advanced level to mitigate impact to
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67,812
471,600
242,000
25,000
25,000
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38,244
461,000
296,220
30,000
25,000
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2,126,993 535,736
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$17,092,721 $9,106,987
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189,410
41,472
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GRANT 2 000,000
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