07-08-1991 - Special
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
SPECIAL MEETING
MONDAY, JULY 8, 1991
MINUTES
Mayor Wessler called the meeting to order at 7: 00 P. M. in the
Community Center for a Resolution amending the Special Assessment
Resolution 91-R-9, discussion of Board duties and objectives with
the Industrial Development Board and the Merit Board, and for
appointing members to the Industrial Development Board and the
Merit Board.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Tanya Wessler
Councilman Kirk Jones
Councilperson Louise Martin
Councilperson NoraJane Gillespie
Councilman Michael Hays
Interim City Attorney Nikki Clayton
Acting City Manager Fred Munoz
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
Present
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Excused
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Excused
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Mayor Wessler stated the first item on, the agenda was the
Resolution on the Special Assessment Resolution 91-R-9, fixing the
date, time and place of the Final Public Hearing and authorizing
publication and mailing of notice of the final assessment.
Councilperson Gillespie stated she had asked questions of the
bonding people. She stated the City's Charter had always been a
conflict with her and she has always had problems with it. She
stated under Home Rule 166 it says if the Charter predates it you
can change it by Ordinance and if it follows Home Rule, as ours
does, then it has to go to referendum. She stated bonding
sections of our Charter were removed by Ordinance by the previous
Council and she has a great question as to the legality of where
the Council stands right now until this is clarified.
Mayor Wess ler asked Mr.
Gillespie's questions.
Livermore to answer Councilperson
Mr. Dan Livermore. a lawyer from Livermore, Klein, and Lott the
City's Bond Council, stated he needs more facts. He stated he did
provide The City with general advice some time ago which was that
under Home Rule generally Charters which have been adopted by
Ordinance and Referendum vote of the people after the Home Rule
Act has been in effect, cannot be amended by Ordinance without
another vote contrary to what was adopted in the Referendum vote.
He added in looking at the City's Charter he didn't see any 1979
City Charter that was adopted by Ordinance and Referendum. He
stated if the City had one it was a whole new set of facts that no
one provided him with to review. He stated what was sent to him
was a whole series of Charter sections which were changed, he did
not see a whole City Charter that was adopted by an election of
the people. Mr. Livermore stated if that was done he would have
to look at that before he could answer the question.
Mayor Wessler stated it sounds to her like Mr. Livermore is saying
that a full City Charter was adopted. Mr. Livermore stated no,
that was what Councilperson Gillespie was telling him and he had
seen no such document so he has no opinion as to what it says
because he has never seen it.
Councilperson Gillespie stated that was what confused her was the
original Charter was done in 1951 that had the boundaries and the
name change. She added according to the City's own Code Book we
only have Section 1 and it says adopted May 21, 1979 to go into
effect July 31, 1979 if approved by the Secretary of State. She
stated she wants to know if they are leqal.
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Mayor Wessler asked Mr. Livermore if they could get a copy of the
Charter, so he look at it and the Council move something else up
on the agenda. Mr. Livermore stated he could not promise that he
would resolve that by looking at what is going to be handed to
him. He stated Councilperson Gillespie is saying there is a whole
City Charter out there that he hasn't seen and just because it is
in a codified book it doesn't necesscarily mean that is the case.
He stated the official record of the City will reflect whether
there is an Ordinance to adopt that book and whether there was a
City wide vote approving that book as an entire revision of the
whole City Charter.
Mayor Wessler stated it might clarify things if Council did have
him go look at the official records. She stated she had asked
Interim City Attorney Nikki Clayton and her legal opinion was that
it was all right to use Chapter 166.
Mr. Livermore stated that was a whole different question, even if
they had a vote and even if the City had a whole City Charter
adopted in 1979, unless it has in it some sections which
absolutely take away general law with respect to Special
Assessments it still wouldn't have any effect on the Special
Assessments Procedure.
Councilperson Gillespie stated it does, it puts us over the
bonding limit by removing 102 and 103 which was your
recommendation by Ordinance and not by referendum. She added this
would factor in on it because that caps us out at 2% of the value.
Mr. Livermore asked if those sections were voted on in 1979.
Councilperson Gillespie stated they were put into part of the
Charter in 1979. Mr. Livermore stated they have always been part
of the Charter since they were adopted, the legal question he had
is were those sections part of a formal vote in 1979.
Councilperson Gillespie stated she did not know. Mr. Livermore
stated that he can't answer a question on documents that he was
not provided. Councilperson Gillespie stated she only had Section
1 in her Code Book of the Charter, that was why she was going to
Mr. Livermore for advice as the City's legal bond advisor since
the Interim City At torney is not here. Mr. Livermore stated
Councilperson Gillespie's book is not necessarily an official
document, the records of the City Council as to what Ordinances
were passed and what attachments there are to those Ordinances is
really the official record. Councilperson Gillespie stated what
she is afraid of is that Council is going to bond on Friday and
talking about the loan today, if 102 and 103 should still be in
there then they are over the limit. Mr. Livermore stated not
necessarily because that limit may be construed to apply only to
general obligation bonds.
Mayor Wessler stated perhaps they could move this down on the
agenda and Mr. Munoz could go with Mr. Livermore to City Hall and
dig up whatever documentation they can and come back with it. Mr.
Livermore stated he wanted to see the Ordinance Book for 1979.
Mr. Munoz stated he didn't know where everything was in the City
Clerk's office but they could try.
Councilman Hays asked Mr. Livermore if there wasn't correspondence
between Mr. Livermore and Mr. Alvarez dated about a year ago
addressing just this topic. Mr. Livermore stated yes, he was not
sure of the exact date but they discussed the subject of those two
old Charter sections. He added it was his advice in the letter
that they could be amended and repealed based on the state of the
City Charter that was provided to him which did not reflect any
City wide vote after 1972 adopting a whole new Charter
incorporating those sections in it. Councilman Hays stated Mr.
Livermore did write the Ordinance but what did he reference in
writing this Ordinance. Mr. Livermore stated copies of Ordinances
of the City and Special Acts of the Legislature that were sent to
him to review as being those official actions that related to the
City Charter of the City of Edgewater.
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Mr. Livermore added with respect to the Special Acts of the
Legislature he looked those up himself and looked at those in the
State published laws with respect to Ordinances since charters can
now be amended by Ordinance and Referendum. He stated there is no
general statewide source that all lawyers readily have access to
like they do general Statutes. He said they always ask the City to
provide them with whatever actions have been taken with respect to
their Charter by Ordinance after 1972. He stated he has a whole
stack of those with which he was provided in his file and there
were none which state what this premise is and there were none
which affect the ability of the City to repeal those sections.
Mr. Livermore stated that probably those two sections really
relate to general obligation voted bonds payable from ad valorum
taxes. He stated that when you tell him there was a whole new
Charter adopted in 1979 then all bets are off because he has never
read that Charter. He stated he has no idea what is in it at this
point and its true as a matter of law if you had a whole new
Charter adopted in 1979 by a vote of the people following an
Ordinance adopting it subject to that vote by Council that is the
governing document and not what he read. Mr. Livermore stated he
has no idea what is in it. Councilperon Gillespie stated she
thought the book contained the whole Charter but it does not.
She added they are getting ready to put a whole new Charter on the
ballot so this is not uncommon. Mr. Livermore stated it was
common to have a whole Charter on the ballot.
Mayor Wessler asked if any of the Council members had any
objections to Mr. Munoz going to City Hall with Mr. Livermore and
seeing what they could find. Councilperson Gillespie stated she
would appreciate it because it puts Council in a precarious
situation for the bonds on Friday. Mr. Livermore stated he assumed
Councilperson Gillespie didn't know anything about it until today.
Councilperson Gillespie replied she was sorry but she didn't know.
Mr. Livermore stated he was not unprepared, he would have looked
into it if he had known about it earlier than three minutes
before.
Mayor Wessler stated the next item on the agenda was the
discussion of Board duties and objectives with the Industrial
Development Board and the Merit Board. Mayor Wessler stated they
would start with the Industrial Development Board.
Joe Martin. Chairman, Industrial Development Board, gave a
presentation. He played a video tape with subject matter
concerning the Economic Development in Volusia County,
Mayor Wessler wanted input from the Boards as to what the Boards'
duties are and if there are any questions the Boards have for
Council. She stated the idea behind this was to help Council
better equip them with people.
Councilperson Gillespie thanked Mr. Martin for his presentation
and his time and effort on the meeting Council had previously with
his group. Mr. Martin pointed out there were four other members of
the Industrial Development Board present: mr. Hanson, Ms. Swiney,
Mr. Gleason, and Mrs. Rymsza. He stated one member was absent.
Mayor Wessler asked if Council wanted to go ahead and appoint
members to this Board now or wait until further down on the
agenda. Councilman Hays asked if Council was going to use the
procedure they discussed. Mayor Wessler stated it was Council's
pleasure. Councilperson Gillespie stated it means that Mr. Jones
would appoint the first one, Mrs. Martin would appoint the second
one, and then she would be last. Councilperson Gillespie stated
it was fine with her.
Councilman Jones stated in the past the Boards used to select
three members and send them to Council for their approval. He
added they did a background check and looked for people who would
best serve that particular Board. He stated he does not
understand why the way of selection has changed, he had no problem
with the old way.
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Mayor Wessler stated she had spoken with Mr. Martin about people
that have applied for the Board and his opinion. Mr. Jones stated
he had not had the chance to talk to Mr, Martin. Mayor Wessler
asked if they could go through and appoint, take a voice vote on
all of it, and then make a motion on the Resolution, There was no
objection.
Councilman Jones recommended Joe Martin.
Councilperson Martin recommend Guy Hanson,
Councilperson Gillespie recommended Phillip Fong.
Councilman Hays recommended Agnes Rymsza.
Mayor Wessler read the Resolution RESOLUTION 91-R-35, A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA,
APPOINTING FOUR MEMBERS TO THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF THE
CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA; PROVIDING FOR TERMS OF OFFICE,
PROVIDING FOR RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES; REPEALING
ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER THAT JOE MARTIN, GUY HANSON, PHILLIP
FONG, AND AGNES RYMSZA ARE HEREBY APPOINTED TO THE INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, THAT THE TERMS OF
OFFICE SHALL BE FOR THREE YEARS TO END JULY 1, 1994.
Councilperson Gillespie moved to accept Resolution 91-R-35.
Councilman Jones seconded. Motion CARRIED 5-0,
Mayor Wessler asked Mr. Livermore if he was ready to give his
opinion,
Mr. Livermore stated in looking at what Councilperson Gillespie
was looking at he understands her question. He stated the title
page read: Code of Ordinances of the City of Edgewater, the
Charter and General Ordinance of the City adopted May 21, 1979.
He added that Ordinance is reproduced on page Roman Numeral IX
that Ordinance says: An Ordinance adopting and enacting a new Code
of Ordinances for the City providing for repeal of other
Ordinances and providing for an effective date, and what that does
is adopt a Code of Ordinances. He added while you look at the
title page alone you think that both the Charter and the Ordinance
were adopted in 1979. He stated the present Charter was adopted
by Chapter 27532 Special Acts of 1951 and there have been portions
of the Charter that have been amended since then, and there is a
Charter update of supplements which reflect the legislative
history of the whole City Charter. He stated this does not
reflect any new City Charter adopted in 1979; the Charter of 1951
is still the City Charter. Councilperson Gillespie asked if
Council was on firm ground. Mr. Livermore stated yes he thinks
Council is. Councilperson Gillespie stated that was what Council
needed to know. Mr. Livermore stated what was in the Charter
itself was what was amended out was Sections 102 and 103. He added
in the Editor's note on page 38 recites that those two sections
were repealed by the 1990 Ordinance that he drafted for the City.
He said it stated such repealed sections derived from the present
Charter adopted by Chapter 27532 Special Acts of 1951. Mr.
Livermore stated he and Mr. Munoz read all of the Ordinances of
the City for 1979 by quick title in the City Clerk' s office and
found none which adopted a Charter or submitted any to vote of the
people. Mr. Livermore stated the answer is there was no Charter
in 1979 and the law is still as he thought it was. Councilperson
Gillespie stated she was sorry but when she read it the way it
was, she really needed the clarification. Mr. Livermore stated
they put it in one book and the date is really misleading.
Councilperson Gillespie stated now Council won' t have to worry
about it coming up along the way. Mr. Livermore stated neither
would he,
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Mayor Wessler read the Resolution A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE
RESOLUTION 91-R-9 RELATING TO SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN THE
FLORIDA SHORES IMPROVEMENT AREA SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS DISTRICT BY
AMENDING APPENDIX B THERETO RELATING TO THE METHOD OF
PROPORTIONMENT OF ASSESSMENTS TO PROVIDE FOR EQUIVALENT LOTS, AND
TO PROVIDE FOR A SINGLE INITIAL APPORTIONMENT TO IRREGULAR PARCELS
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Councilman Jones moved to adopt 91-R-
9. Councilperson Martin seconded. Councilperson Gillespie stated
she would like to discuss Section B-6, she needed clarification.
She asked that Mr. Ferland go over it with her. Councilperson
Gillespie stated the way it reads it would mean that if people did
not prepay their assessment prior to Council's signing of the SRF
loans they would start paying interest on it. She stated it was
her understanding they could pay cash up until the day they were
required to connect.
Mr. Ron Ferland. Dyer, Riddle, Mills and Precourt, stated anybody
can pay their assessment at any time prior to the time they are
going to connect and they are also able to pay during the course
of the assessment period such as for a transfer of title where the
title insurance company may want to clear the lien or the
assessment they can pay the outstanding balance that is currently
on the assessment. Mr. Ferland state Section B-6 is saying that
after all the costs of .the project have been defrayed if they are
under budget or project costs are below the amount you
anticipated needing the annual payments will be lowered.
Councilperson Gillespie stated what she wanted to be sure was that
they will not be penalizing anyone the day they sign the SFR
loans, the way this reads is five days after that they have to pay
up front or they couldn't get it without the interest. She stated
that is not what Mr. Ferland intended but that is what it reads
like and she wanted to make sure that people can pay cash up front
with not interest up until the day they connect.
Mr. Stan Livengood. stated essentially what they have here is a
problem in that interest commences when the loan is draw down, and
it does not start when someone decides to prepay. He stated the
concept here is yes, a cash prepayment can be made at any time of
the principal amount unpaid of the Special Assessment but the
concept is also that the accrued interest at the 5 1/2% rate up to
the day the cash payment is made must also be made with the cash
payment. Councilperson Gillespie stated this was not what Council
intended for the public. Councilperson Gillespie asked if it was
interest free or not for the taxpayer up until the day they
connect. Mr. Livengood stated the total assessment included an
allowance for interest during construction. Counoilperson
Gillespie stated which we are going to charge off to the public to
start with. Mr. Livengood stated that is inoluded in the total
borrowing cost of the State Revolving Fund. Councilperson
Gillespie stated it is being oharged off to the public to start
with is that not right. She stated if the assessment is $1,425 if
she pays if five days after the loan is signed she knows she is
going to pay it interest free because that is what the wording
says right now. Mr. Livengood stated that $1,425 includes an
allowance for capitilized interest. Councilperson Gillespie stated
technically it has already been figured into the assessment to
start with Mr. Livengood stated yes. Councilperson Gillespie
asked if she waited until next year to pay is she going to pay
$1,425 or $1,245 plus 5.5% interest. Mr. Livengood stated prior
to the completion of the projeot and the finalization you would
pay only $1,425 which would be subjeot to the final assessment
which cannot be greater than $1,425 it could be less than $1,425.
Counoilperson Gillespie stated that goes back to everyone. She
added she has a problem with that wording also. She asked if it
comes in under what is on the assessment rolls that are being
mailed out, it looks like we don't give it back to the people we
use it for another worth while project for the same people who are
going to benefit. Mr. Livengood stated only if the amount to be
refunded is less than the cost to refund it. Counoilperson
Gillespie asked who decides. Mr. Livengood stated that would be a
policy decision of the Council.
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Mr, Livermore stated the language already does what you both want
it to do, He added the example talks about interest charged for
deferred payment of the Special Assessment and the Assessment is
not going to be due until after the completion of Phase I and
Phase II sections so there wouldn't be any interest on the Special
Assessments until after the date that it is due, Councilperson
Gillespie stated she wanted to make it very clear in the records
and on the tapes because when it comes to the Federal Code she
doesn't plan to be worried about it 5 years down the road.
Councilperson Gillespie stated to Mr. Ferland she felt effluent
return should be removed from this and that it should be City
wide. She stated she has a copy of the settlement of the lawsuit
wi th her and it says the Ci ty, it does not say Florida Shores.
She stated she knows they keep telling her that's the prorated
charge of what the effluent is going to cost us but there are many
sewer homes in Florida Shores. Mr. Ferland stated there are
approximately 114 parcels,
Councilperson Gillespie asked how those people are going to pay
for their effluent return. Mr. Ferland stated in their user fees.
Councilperson Gillespie stated she is going to pay for it in her
monthly charge, why should she be assessed specially for it. She
asked why any resident of Florida Shores should be treated any
differently than any other citizen of Edgewater. She added they
are not a subdivision they are a part of the City and she doesn't
feel the effluent should be charged to them on a Special
Assessment. Councilperson Gillespie stated if it is a user fee it
should be City wide. Mr. Ferland stated that was an issue that
should be handled in the workshop meetings prior to the August 6th
hearing. He added that some of what Councilperson Gillespie was
saying has a valid premise but when you see the full picture
maybe there can be some middle ground. He stated the reclaimed
water system that is in Florida Shores was planned long before the
administrative hearing and long before the legislation regarding
the Indian River and it was planned as an environmental benefit to
the City to try and get out of the Indian River of their own
volition. He stated it was planned to be put into Florida Shores
to take advantage of cost savings and economy of scale associated
with already digging the roads and putting in 1 more pipe. He
stated the reclaimed water system is an effluent disposal system
and as such the cost associated with effluent disposal has been
prorated between user fees and assessments on the same basis as
the Wastewater plant costs have been apportioned and it is
approximately 50/50.
Mr. Ferland stated you will be paying user fees as a resident of
Florida Shores as well as paying the assessment is a concern of
equality but to address that in the past what they have done is
show that the assessment of the Wastewater Treatment Plant being
at $504 is much less than the impact fee of $1,425 to address that
inequity and to try and put some of the benefit of the lower cost
to the assessment area. He added he agrees that the issue does
need to be discussed fully in the workshop meetings and he hopes
that these meetings can be scheduled prior to the August 6th Board
of Equalization hearing or the Final Assessment hearing under the
City's Home Rule Ordinance associated with Special Assessments.
Councilperson Gillespie stated Mr. Ferland had been most kind to
discuss this with her at great length but she still feels voting
on this tonight the way it reads with the effluent return assessed
to the homeowners of Florida Shores is incorrect, unfair and
completely out of bounds for the settlement. She added she had
spoken to Mr, Berryhill about this and he felt normally effluent
return is part of your sewer, part of your wastewater system but
it is a user commodity the same as water or sewage service,
therefore she doesn't feel Council can vote on this without
amending it to remove effluent return and working out something
that is equitable to the residents of Florida Shores.
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Mayor Wessler asked if anyone had more questions for Mr. Ferland
as there was a motion on the floor. Councilman Hays stated during
the workshops they they will have over the next month, these are
some of the issues Council will be addressing. He stated he has
some concerns over the effluent return being assessed. He added
this Resolution is Council's intent to proceed with the project,
and the issues will be resolved in the hearings and there is
nothing that cannot be amended or changed. Mayor Wessler stated
she believed Mr. Livermore agreed with Councilman Hays that
nothing in there cannot be amended. Councilperson Gillespie stated
they could change anything. Mayor Wessler stated there was a
motion on the floor and roll call was taken. Motion CARRIED 4-1
Councilperson Gillespie voted NO.
Mayor Wessler stated the next thing Council needed to do was set
up workshops and there will be public participation in the
workshops. A member of the public asked if there could be public
participation in this meeting. Mayor Wessler stated that was
entirely up to Council. Councilperson Gillespie stated yes, any
time the Public's money is effected under F.S.170 they are allowed
to speak. Mayor Wess ler stated the gent leman was referring to
this evening. Councilperson Gillespie stated Council had just
effected his money. Mayor Wessler stated she did not believe Mr.
Vasquez was a property owner in Edgewater, but he was welcome to
speak if Council said he could.
Mr. Ben Vasquez. stated he represents Bessie Trombetta, 2807
Needle Palm Drive she is his mother in law. He stated this
municpality does not have the legal authority to create a Special
District and assess those people under the guise of local
improvements as specifically benefitting property under the guise
of Home Rule. He added municipalities have no right or powers to
levy Special Assessments and before Special Assessments can become
valid they must be made pursuant to the method proscribed by the
State Legislators. He cited State Statute Chapter 170. Section
170.04 only permits the City to estimate the cost of a proposed
improvement before an adoption of the assessment resolution. He
stated this is the only time an estimate is permitted and upon
completion of the improvements the City then shall credit to each
of the assessment the difference in the assessments as originally
made and the proportionate part of the actual cost of improvement
paid by special assessments. He stated in no event shall the
final assessment exceed the amount of benefitted originally
assessed. Mr. Vasquez stated Section 170.07 states in part upon
completion of said assessment roll it does not state upon the
estimate of assessments. He stated a time and place shall be
fixed for persons to be heard as to the priority, advisability and
cost thereof and as to the manner of paYment thereof and the
amount to be assessed. He stated the State' s purpose in this
section is intended that citizens will have the knowledge they
need to ensure that their assessments are dealt with by the
municipality on the basis of justice and right. He asked how can
this be determined by the property owner with an estimated bill.
Mr. Vasquez stated once this assessment is approved by a City at a
hearing the people assessed will stand confirmed and remain
binding first liens upon their property. He cited SS 170.06
saying it clearly requires the assessment roll to be completed
showing lots/lands to be assessed, the amount of benefits and the
assessments against each prior to any hearing or equalization
hearing held by this City, therefore this estimated assessment is
clearly against the intent and purpose of State Statutes and
another attempt to mislead the public. He added this Council was
grossly premature in submitting of bids and opening bids or the
awarding of contracts pertaining to this Capital Improvement
Program with no actual monies, grants or bonds in hand and no
authority as yet to lawfully expand any proceeds for this
contemplated purpose.
Mayor Wessler asked if there were any other citizen's comments,
being none she would like to set up the workshops.
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Councilperson Gillespie asked if she could ask a question since
Council had all their specialists there. She stated she had been
looking at the EPA approved plan for the Wastewater Facility for
over a year, why haven't we gone to bid for the facility. Mr.
Ferland stated you haven't executed a loan agreement, you haven't
been able to execute a loan agreement because the Special
Assessments have to be perfected before they will accept a loan
agreement. Councilperson Gillespie stated they can always reject
all bids. Mr. Ferland stated you can't award. Councilperson
Gillespie stated the original plan was to bond both facilities and
she wondered why they have every bid on the water plant but they
have never gone to bond on the sewer plant. Mr. Ferland stated
they have not gone to bid because they are still in the process of
DER technical review, and water plant and the water program bids
were received approximately one month prior to if you close on
your bonds on July 30th they open the bids on July 3rd. He stated
they are well within the time frame for awarding the contract, and
within the time frame that your are going to issue the bonds.
Councilperson Gillespie asked if there is a legal time frame that
is bound into this. Mr. Ferland stated the bids are open for 90
days in the bid quorum. Councilperson Gillespie stated that was
the question she needed answered. Mr. Ferland stated in the
Wastewater Plant before you go to bid you want to make sure DER
gives you the authorization to incur funds. He stated they can't
get a loan agreement signed until the Special Assessments are
perfected and the State is very touchy about the whole thing. Mr.
Ferland stated what they are intending to do is to put the program
out for bid, the Wastewater Plant and the Collection System, by
late August or early September so they will be in a position to
award the contracts in October. He stated that would be in
advance of the SRF obligations from the state just like you are
saying you will have the bids in and know how much it is going to
cost and we probably won't have the final executed loan agreement
before then but at least we'll be in a position that once we do we
are ready to start movement right away in October. Mr. Ferland
stated that is the current schedule at this point. Councilperson
Gillespie asked if there is something in the law that actually
gives a binding period. Mr. Ferland stated when you go out for
bid part of the contract the bidder is signing in the bid
documents has a period of time of when that bid is good for. He
added that for EPA bonds it is kept open for 120 days in case
there is any bid protest. He stated the amount of time put in is
strictly up to the owner depending on how long you want to keep
those prices good. He stated in the case of the Water Program
they are kept open for 90 days the intent being we know what the
project costs are and we know what the bond size has to be based
upon those project costs. Mr. Ferland stated if Council issues
the bonds on July 30th he intends to come to them with
recommendation of award of contract at the first August meeting
after the issuance of the bonds, at that point they will be able
to dig dirt and proceed with the projects. Councilperson Gillespie
asked Mr. Ferland why are we borrowing $15,000,000 when we only
need $13,000,000. She asked if Mr. Ferland can reduce the bond
issue to $13,000,000 and save the public $2,000,000 plus interest
for 30 years. Mr. Ferland stated there are some other costs that
are outside the water system in that bond size one being is the
Engineering costs associated with the Florida Shores distribution
system this is part of the bond size but it is not part of the
project costs. Councilperson Gillespie stated she would like
those costs in writing from Mr. Livengood.
Mr. Livengood stated he had some updates for Council concerning
the water and sewer revenue bond issue. Mayor Wessler stated
Council is going to set Workshop Meetings and then they were going
to discuss that subject. She stated she was going on vacation
from the 16th to the 22nd and being it is not a Special Meeting
she would like Council to arrange those meetings around those
dates. Mr. Ferland stated the notice should be published in the
local newspaper on July 11 and 18 and they are stuffing the
notices in the envelopes now. He stated they would be mailed the
10th and the 11th.
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Counoilperson Gillespie stated even it Mayor Wessler is on
vaoation she wouldn' t have to sit through the workshops. Mayor
Wessler stated she wi~hes to. Counoilperson Gillespie stated she
had no problems working around the Mayor's vacation. Mayor
Wessler stated she had disoussed with Mr. Ferland the dates of
15th, 29th, and the day before the equalization hearing the 5th
unless you wanted to move one of those to a Saturday.
Councilperson Gillespie stated she did not think that was fair to
the public. Mayor Wessler asked what she thought was fair.
Councilperson Gillespie the night before the equalization was
asking a lot. Mayor Wessler stated they could have it on the
Saturday before on August 3rd. Councilperson Gillespie stated
that would be more fair as it would give different people a chanoe
to come. Workshop meetings were scheduled to be: July 15 at 7:30
P.M. , July 29th at 6:00 p.m. and August 3 at 2:00 p.m.
Councilperson Gillespie stated Councilman Jones and she had
coauthored a motion a while back that Council was going to publish
this in every paper plus the letter. She stated she reminded Mr.
Munoz that she did not wish to be reminded about this six months
down the road by the taxpayers that they did not publish it. Mr.
Ferland stated the size of the ad would be at least half a page
and possible a full page. Councilperson Gillespie stated it was
required to be a quarter of a page by law.
Mr. Ferland requested that Councilmembers and citizens through the
City Manager let him know other issues that were thought to be
relevant to be handled in the workshops. He stated this would
help him, he would like to focus in on the important issues and
resolve them as quickly as possible.
Councilperson Gillespie stated in the text of the old minutes in
Exhibit A Mr. Ferland has Guava as being sewered, partially Guava
is unsewered. She stated it needed to be corrected.
Mr. Livengood stated that we are on schedule with the revenue bond
issue. He added they will issue only the amount of bonds
necessary to carry out and accomplish it. He stated the Board has
authorized no more than $15,000,000 the principal amount of bonds.
He stated to bear in mind that some of the costs if the issue are
dependent upon the final interest rates which have not been
established. He stated they expect that the final issue size
would be less than $14,000,000. Mr. Livengood stated they had
their first real finance group meeting April 29th at which time
they established a schedule which called for closing on or about
July 30th and we are on schedule for that. He added either
tonight or more likely tomorrow night the preliminary official
statement for the bond issue will be mailed to investors and it
is possible that with the favorable market right now and he is
confident that the final annual debt service will be well within
the levels that are anticipated in the rates that were adopted and
the Engineers projections of annual debt service and required
revenues. Mr. Livengood stated he expected no negative surprises
along those lines.
Mr. Livengood stated that it may be possible the underwriters may
be able to price and get the bonds sold this week in which event
there would need to be a Special Council Meeting sometime mid-day
this coming Friday for the purpose of approving a bond purchase
agreement and approving the final bond resolution with some minor
modifications to reflect the bond insurmountably requirements. He
stated he had neglected to mention the City did receive two bond
insurance commitments one from NBIA and the second from FGIC. He
stated the NBIA premium quote was 42 1/2 basis points which was
excellent in his judgement, and the FGIC bid was 55 basis points
and that is one of the things in the bond resolution that would be
one of the formal actions which the Council would be taking. He
stated they would be formally approving and accepting the NBIA
bond insurance commitment.
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Mr. Livengood stated as a fall back a second Special Meeting
should be set for next Thursday if they can't get into the market
next week and get a bond purchase agreement before Council this
Friday. He stated the Thursday meeting could be an evening
meeting the purpose being that on Friday they must meet midday
because the underwriters must have the opportunity to tell the
purchaser who is going to get the bonds and it is burdensome for
an underwriter to carry unallocated bonds over the weekend.
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Mayor Wessler stated Council needed a meeting for Friday, July
12th at 2:00 P.M. Councilman Hays stated this caught him at short
notice. Mr. Livengood stated there is only a one in four chance
that this meeting will actually take place. He stated it is
really pushing it to try to be prepared for Friday. He stated
realistically they would be looking at Thursday the 18th. Mayor
Wessler stated that Mr. Livengood wanted them to call a meeting
for Friday, July 12th and if he could get them the information he
would, if he couldn't they would call a Special Meeting for the
18th. Mr. Livengood asked if they had to have four Councilmembers
present. Councilperson Gillespie stated 2/3 needed to be present.
Mayor Wessler asked if anyone had any questions for Mr. Ferland,
Mr. Livermore, or Mr. Livengood, there were none.
Mayor Wessler stated the next item on the agenda was the objective
and duties for the Merit Board.
Councilperson Gillespie stated she complemented the Merit Board on
how much she enjoyed her meeting with them and she hoped that
those who had not been able to attend one of their meetings would
see fit to do so as soon as possible.
Shirley Roberts. 423 N. Riverside Drive, stated she has been a
member of the Merit Board for 3 months and she has lots of
questions. She stated apparently the Merit Board was originated
before the City Manager form of government and that has raised
some questions with the Merit Board. She stated the Board really
needs their help and since Cece Stevens had been on the Board
longer she would let her speak.
Councilperson Gillespie stated the Board has been waiting for the
City to get an in house attorney to resolve some of the questions.
Cece Stevens. member of the Merit Board, stated she feels things
have been going along fairly well and there are problems, but
nothing she can't forsee being resolved. She stated she feels the
Merit Board is a good Board for the City and she has enjoyed
working on the Board.
Mayor Wessler asked if anyone had any questions for Ms. Roberts or
Ms. Stevens. Councilperson Gillespie stated as soon as we have
secured an in house attorney and if it is Ms. Storey, could she
make one of her unofficial visits to the Merit Board. Mayor
Wessler stated since she would not be in the City's employ at this
time she did not know if Ms. Storey could render any legal
opinions. Councilperson Gillespie stated it would be just to get
acquainted. Mayor Wessler stated as far as the questions that Ms.
Roberts had that they might best wait until the City Attorney
comes so that she could answer them and as Council does not even
have an Interim Attorney here tonight it would be unwise of them
to answer questions.
Ms. Roberts stated one of the questions was one from the meeting
that Mr. Munoz attended. She stated at one time the Merit Board
made a decision and it was not agreed on by the City Manager at
that time. She asked if that does happen should the Merit Board
meet with Council and let them make the decision. Mayor Wessler
stated she would imagine if it came to loggerheads it would come
to Council.
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Councilman Hays stated it would depend on what the issue
addressed. He stated it mayor may not be an issue that would
come under Council's umbrella. He added if it was an item that
was specific to management of employees that would come under the
City Manager form of government and sometimes that is a fine line.
Mayor Wessler stated if it was job reclassification they were
talking about it would fall under Council. Ms. Roberts stated
they should take it case by case. Mayor Wessler agreed.
Councilman Jones stated whenever the Merit Board has a problem per
se and the City Manager doesn't agree, there is always the avenue
of going to the Council because you serve the Council and the
people. He stated it would be a case by case basis and the Merit
Board serves the employees and once the City Attorney comes and
clarifies the Board's duties they would not be on shaky ground.
Councilman Hays stated he wanted to know if they have a problem
with attendance of a member of the Board those things need to also
be brought to Council's attention. He stated Council tries to
keep up with these things through the minutes but it is hard to
keep track of everybody.
Councilperson Gillespie stated there are Ordinances pending one of
which concerns absenteeism that allows the City Manager to remove
anyone from a Board after they have reached a percentage of
absenteeism to take the load off of the Board members who do
attend. She stated it bothers her when a member calls the Chairman
of a Board and asking to be excused. She feels the Board should
vote whether the member should be excused for that evening if they
have a reasonable excuse. Councilman Jones stated he recommends
any time that DBCC offers a course in City Government Council
should try to encourage Board members to attend.
At this time three members of the Merit Board were selected.
Mayor Wessler selected Shirley Roberts.
Councilman Jones selected Cece Stevens.
Councilperson Martin selected Erma Cook.
Mayor Wessler read Resolution 91-R-37. RESOLUTION NO. 91-R-37 A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA
APPOINTING THREE MEMBERS TO THE MERIT BOARD OF THE CITY OF
EDGEWATER, PROVIDING FOR TERMS OF OFFICE; PROVIDING FOR RIGHTS,
PRIVILEGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES; REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN
CONFLICT HEREWIth AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. NOW
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
EDGEWATER THAT SHIRLEY ROBERTS, CECE STEVENS, AND ERMA M. COOK ARE
HEREBY APPOINTED TO THE MERIT BOARD OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER.
THEIR TERMS OF OFFICE SHALL BE THREE YEARS TO END ON JULY 1, 1994.
Councilperson Gillespie moved
Councilperson Martin seconded.
to accept Resolution
Motion CARRIED 5-0.
91-R-37.
Mayor Wessler stated the only other item was Ms. Storey's
background check is in and if Council has no objection for Mr.
Munoz to go ahead and notify her of that. There was none. Mayor
Wessler stated Mr. Munoz could go ahead and notify Ms. Storey
tomorrow. Mr. Munoz stated Ms. Storey could give notice to her
employer. Mayor Wessler stated that was correct.
Mr. Munoz stated he had some information in reference to the ad
valorum. He said the present millage was at a rate of 4.6 and the
roll back rate is 4.43215 and if we initially tell them 4.6 we can
roll it back to the roll back rate at the first or second meeting.
Councilperson Gillespie asked if this meets the Trim Law
requirements. Mr. Munoz stated this was correct and 4.6 would be
a tax increase. Councilperson Gillespie asked if Mr. Munoz would
give the public and Council a short explanation of the Trim Law at
the next meeting.
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Mr. Munoz stated he needed to not1ry the County or the1r meeting
date and those cannot be confirmed until he finds out when the
County and the School Board are having their meetings so there
will not be a conflict. Mr. Munoz stated he would notify them
that our tentative millage rate would be the same at it is, 4.6
and then if you want to roll it back to the roll back rate at the
first meeting Council can do it then.
Councilman Jones asked how long we have been pursuing the Special
Assessment interest on the tax rolls. Mr. Munoz stated it had
been going on for some time and he had sent it to the property
appraiser and he brought him a personal copy too. Councilman
Jones suggested we call them on the non ad valorum assessment and
they will charge to do it for us. Councilperson Gillespie stated
they gave her the figure of 1-4% on the phone. Councilman Hays
stated at that point they'll decide whether they are going to use
them. Mayor Wessler stated that would be a point in the workshops
too that they would address.
ADJOURN
Councilperson Martin moved to adjourn. Councilperson Gillespie
seconded. Meeting adjourned at 8:28 P.M.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa R. Warren
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