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City Council of Edgewater
Special Meeting & Public Hearing
May 30, 1989
Minutes
Mayor Mitchum called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the
Edgewater Library. He stated the purpose was for receiving public
input on the addendum to the 201 Facilities Plan for South
(Coastal) Volusia County, and for adoption of Resolution 89-R-41
as the resolution adoption is required to be submitted to the
Florida DER in support of the grant application for the wastewater
system improvements. He said the presentation on the 201 Plan will
be made by the City's consulting engineers, Dyer, Riddle, Mills &
Precourt, Inc.
ROLL CALL
Mayor David Mitchum
Councilman Dan Hatfield
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington
Councilman Russell Gold
Councilman Thomas Fish
City Attorney Jose' Alvarez
Acting City Manager Susan Wadsworth
Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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Also present were Gerry Hartman and Ron Ferland from Dyer, Riddle,
Mills & Precourt, Inc., the City's consulting engineers.
Ron Ferland, Project Manager, stated the 201 Facilities Plan Amend-
ment is the addendum to the 1978 201 Facilities Plan for the South
Coastal Vol usia County area and they addended the original 201 Plan
for the City of Edgewater with a primary impact to provide central
wastewater facilities for the Florida Shores development. He
stated that the urban density of Florida Shores and high ground
water table have made the use of septic systems a public health and
environmental hazard with septic tank failures and draining into
drainage ditches and the problems will get worse.
He stated the 201 Plan addendum has been submitted to Florida DER
in support of the City's request for a low interest loan through
the State Revolving Loan Program and they'll try to get the loan
at an interest rate of 4-1/2 to 5% when they make application in
1990.
He reviewed the average daily flows anticipated through 2010 which
were the reasons for the wastewater expansion. He showed on a
graph the existing wastewater treatment plant capacity and
projected growth rate.
He showed the Edgewater service area on a map and where the
existing wastewater treatment plant is located at a shared site
with Public Works. He pointed out the existing system is a 1 MGD
secondary treatment which is no more than 90% removal of BOD and
total suspended solids. He showed the treatment process with
eventual discharge to the Indian River. He explained the sludge
handling process.
Mr. Ferland then explained the NPDES permit limitations for the
wastewater treatment plant discharge. He pointed out the fecal
coliform count from the wastewater plant was less than 1 the last
couple of years. He stated they're conducting a waste load
limitation study on the Indian River and the State DER is modeling
studies to determine the treatment required to continue discharge
to the Indian River and not cause any degradation of the aquatic
system in the Indian River. He pointed out that secondary treat-
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ment will probably not be allowed and advanced waste treatment will
be required in the future regardless of whether Florida Shores is
central sewered or not.
Mr. Ferland stated that they'd looked at two ways to collect
wastewater. He proceeded with a detailed overview of the gravity
system and the low pressure system (STEP), pointing out costs for
each, including operation and maintenance and electricity, piping,
manholes, etc. He noted that a gravity system will require 20 pump
stations and the low pressure would require 6.
Mr. Ferland stated that three major developments have had the low
pressure sewers and they have a record for 10 years with no major
failures or problems.
Mr. Ferland showed the low pressure system on a graph with a sump
for a pump that will take the wastewater out of the tank and pump
it into the main line in the street. He showed on a color coded
map where the main lines would be.
Mr. Ferland reviewed the individual items and total costs for the
gravity versus the low pressure sewer systems with a dramatic
difference from $16.7 million for gravity to $4.6 million for low
pressure. He pointed out that if they were starting from scratch,
they'd be in favor of gravity but since they have 2,400 existing
homes with septic tanks, they're trying to maximize the invest-
ments already made and minimize the disruption and amount of cost.
Mr. Ferland reviewed a present worth analysis to see the annual
costs for operation and maintenance of the systems with the total
for gravity to be $19.2 million over a 20-year period and the low
pressure sewer system would be $10.2 million.
Mr. Ferland reviewed the four basic alternatives for treatment
using the various removal processes. He suggested they put in some
type of sludge thickening process which would reduce the number
of trips to haul it away. He also suggested they continue the
current application on the air field. He showed the proposed
Biological Nutrient Removal Facility. He said another effluent
proposal is to put in a re-use system for Florida Shores to use it
on their lawns for irrigation which would reduce the discharge to
the Indian River and the amount of water needed from the water
system. He reviewed costs for the re-use system. He briefly
reviewed the other nutrient removal processes with capital costs
for the one of 1/2 million cheaper at $9.4 million. He explained
the reason it was not chosen was because of the effluent disposal.
He showed the percolation pond site location on a map, explaining
that with the level of treatment required, it would be secondary,
the same as the plant is now, but because of the cost of the work
to get it to that site this option was eliminated. He said the
other option for effluent disposal is wetland discharge but there
are not enough in this area that would take that much flow, or deep
well injection, which after research, they determined it would not
be a viable mode. He explained the layer between the salt and
fresh water zone could be too thin.
Mr. Ferland showed the 20-year present worth analysis for each
alternative. He stated they recommended effluent residential re-
use as the highest worth and are recommending it. He showed a time
schedule for the Florida Shores infrastructure which included the
roads, with surveys, site design, permitting, and other facets of
the project. He also showed the time schedule for the wastewater
treatment plant.
Mr. Ferland showed the annual cost per household with costs for
existing customers outside Florida Shores to be $300; for new
customers outside Florida Shores to be $1,700 for the first year
and then $300; for existing residents inside Florida Shores to be
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$525; and new residents inside Florida Shores to be $2,891 for the
first year and then $341 per year. He pointed out the impact fee
would be $1,250 instead of $1,000 to make this viable if it' s
funded at a rate of 5% from the State Revolving Loan Program. He
explained the costs would be on the tax bill and people could pay
their tax bill early to get the 4% discount. He pointed out that
if the interest rate from the State goes to 7% or higher, then
these costs will go up accordingly. He showed how the facilities
will be financed with the financing proposed from State funds. He
showed the debt service and explained the betterment assessments.
He explained how they could hook up to the re-use system for a fee
of $6 per month with no limit to the use.
Mayor Mitchum requested a motion to go from the Special Meeting to
the Public Hearing. Councilman Hatfield so moved. Councilman Gold
seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Public Hearinq
John Siburn, Connecticut Avenue, asked how often they'll have to
clean out the septics since the pump only takes out fluid. Mr.
Ferland replied that the other systems have been in for 7 to 10
years, the only time they needed a pump out was because of a grease
trap problem. He explained the sludge build up leaves an
indigenous state and it eats on itself as much as it builds up and
breaks it down to a soluble waste that's taken out by the STEP pump
system. Mr. Siburn asked about the legality of grease traps and
Mr. Ferland replied that it's required in Florida for a food
service establishment.
Mary Martin, 6 Laughing Gull Lane, asked if the plplng running down
the side of the road for the low pressure system would be on both
sides of the road. Mr. Ferland explained they'll make road cuts
and push it underneath with a jet drive or in some way without
digging up the road. He noted it's only a I" line.
Ben Vasquez, representing his mother-in-law on Needle Palm Drive,
asked why they're going for a special assessment for Florida Shores
and what type of lien will be put on the homes. Mayor Mitchum
replied that wasn't decided yet and these are just preliminary.
Mr. Vasquez asked if they'd come to a conclusion on the financing.
Mayor Mitchum replied they'll need public hearings on all the costs
associated with it. Mr. Vasquez asked if they'll pay for a
discharge system to take the effluent and pump it to the line to
the lift station. Mr. Ferland explained when it gets to the lift
station it will go by force main to the plant. Mr. Vasquez
suggested they merge with New Smyrna Beach and pump our effluent
to their big system. He added that eventually the County is going
to build a large plant west of 95 and we'll have to tie into that.
Mr. Hartman, Vice President, Dyer, Riddle, Mills & Precourt, Inc.,
explained that the County did not intend to utilize or encroach
within the coastal communities service area for utilities and they
can't do it because of the Federal 201 Program with no plans
permitted to allow it to happen. Mr. Ferland noted that New Smyrna
Beach does not have the capacity to take our flow even if we wanted
them to. Mayor Mitchum pointed out the infrastructure has to be
in place no matter where they pump it. Mr. Vasquez stated that
some people in Florida Shores will pay $3,000 or $4,000 a year.
Mr. Ferland clarified that it's projected to be $525 a year.
Mayor Mitchum stated that the gravity system is a much bigger
expense than low pressure. Mr. Vasquez asked who would pay for the
pumps and maintain the systems. Mr. Ferland replied, the City.
Mr. Vasquez said they'd have to wellpoint all the homes in Florida
Shores and they'd have to pump it every 5 years. Mayor Mitchum
noted that Flagler went 10 years. Councilman Hatfield commented
that Port Charlotte and Port St. Lucie didn't have problems. Mr.
Ferland explained how the lift stations will be located throughout
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Florida Shores and said they looked hard at the low pressure system
to avoid an undue hardship on Florida Shores residents. Mr.
Vasquez asked why they hadn't gone to a general obligation bond
issue. Mayor Mitchum replied they hadn't gone into financing.
Georqe Ewinq, Royal Palm, asked for an explanation of the figure
of $525 for a second year of an existing dwelling and $341 for a
new dwelling the second year. Mr. Ferland explained the existing
customers can pay the same as new customers if they want to with
the $1,250 impact fee paid up front.
Norman Billups asked if there was a test area done when this was
proposed in the past. Mr. Ferland replied they looked at it and
evaluated it but it wasn't done for some reason. Councilwoman
Bennington stated that there was grant money of about $60,000
associated with it and they had 5 or 6 blocks targeted but there
were so many questions at the time about emptying the septic tanks
and who would do the maintenance of the pumps and access to the
property, but there weren' t answers, and she didn' t know what
happened to the money. Mr. Billups suggested they go ahead with
it since it has to be done.
Edsel Sobeck, Ridgewood Avenue, asked about 6 pumping stations for
the low pressure and 20 for gravity. Mr. Ferland showed on the
color coded map the service area boundaries for the lift station.
Mr. Sobeck asked who would come out to repair those if the lift
would go out of service. Mr. Fer land replied it's the City's
responsibility and they'd run a line to the treatment plan and each
lift station would pump into that line and if that lift station
goes down, only that lift station service area would be affected.
Mr. Sobeck asked if the cheaper system will be operable for 50
years or if it would be better to put the gravity system in for a
longer life. Mr. Ferland showed on the present worth analysis how
the gravity system tends to break down and the STEP unit pump
replacement every 10 years and the costs involved. He noted that
the current wastewater budget is $550,000. He explained that the
STEP unit has to be hooked into the home electrical system and they
are 1/3 HP pumps that will run 2 to 3 minutes a day at a cost of
about 60 cents a month. He said the costs are put into the
proposal for the maintenance and replacements and 20 years from now
it will still be cheapest.
Don Benninqton asked if they intent to extend outside Florida
Shores the cost effective water to water their lawns. Mr. Ferland
replied no, because they'll be digging in the sides of the roads
and could put another line in then. Mr. Bennington stated they'd
talked about replacing pump stations on Riverside Drive and putting
in lines. He asked if the water would be clean enough for car
washes. Mr. Ferland replied it wouldn' t be used for car washes but
it could be used for some industrial processes. Councilman
Hatfield commented that they're trying to avoid dumping in the
river. Mayor Mitchum pointed out it has to be on a closed system
for irrigation and not on a hose system.
Ben Vasquez asked if the initial cost includes the pump in the
septic tank. Mr. Ferland replied yes. Mr. Vasquez asked who would
hook it up. Mr. Ferland replied the City will contract with a
construction company to hook it up. Mr. Vasquez asked if they'd
hook it up on private property. Mr. Ferland replied yes. Mr.
Vasquez asked if the cost will include the job complete. Mr.
Ferland replied yes and the retrofit costs include putting the pump
in the septic tank, hooking up the electrical system, and running
the line to the main line in the street for about $900. Mr.
Vasquez asked about those with septics in the back. Mr. Ferland
replied it's the same cost.
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Mr. Sobeck asked if it's his op1n10n that this is the best system
for the money and maintenance-wise. Mr. Ferland replied that with
the situation in Florida Shores, that's his recommendation and the
Facilities Plan is it, and he endorses and supports it as the best
interest of the City for a short term and long term. He added that
the City's Utilities staff was concerned about it and they did a
lot of research and feel they can support this system also.
Councilwoman Bennington asked if the low pressure system is just
for Florida Shores. Mr. Ferland replied yes.
Georae Ewina asked if the re-use could be hooked into their
sprinkler systems. Mr. Ferland replied yes, if it can be dis-
connected from the well. Mr. Ewing asked if they would turn the
tap on with pressure. Mr. Ferland replied yes, with about 40 psi.
Councilman Hatfield stated that where he lives they're about 400
feet from the sewer line and they can't hook up to the gravity
system. He asked if they could use this with a retrofit system and
hook into the gravity they have now. Mr. Ferland replied yes, it' s
the same concept and it's a good solution to the site. He added
that the City should not pursue this for new development but it's
good for Florida Shores and those with a long run where they cannot
get gravity fall.
Norman Billups suggested the press be mindful that some people on
Social Security in Florida Shores will need provisions made for
payments.
Mayor Mitchum requested a motion to go from the public hearings to
the special meeting. Councilman Gold so moved. Councilwoman
Bennington seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Mitchum stated the resolution sends the 201 Plan on its way.
He read the Resolution. RES. 89-R-4l - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, ADOPTING AN ADDENDUM TO
THE 201 FACILITIES PLAN FOR SOUTH (COASTAL) VOLUSIA COUNTY,
REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Councilman Gold moved they accept Resolution
89-R-41. Councilman Hatfield seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED
5-0.
Mayor Mitchum requested a motion to adjourn. Councilman Hatfield
so moved. Councilman Gold seconded the motion. Meeting was
adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lura Sue Koser
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