03-19-2001 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 19, 2001
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Schmidt called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Donald Schmidt
Councilman James Brown
Councilman Dennis Vincenzi
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
city Manager Kenneth Hooper
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Legal Assistant Robin Matusick
Present
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Arrived at 7:35 p.m.
Excused
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no minutes to be approved at this time.
PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAOUES/CERTIFICATES/DONATIONS
A. Harold Gallup reauestina modification. not cancellation of
Convenience Bench Aareement. (Rescheduled from Februarv 5. 2001.
Item 3A)
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. Staff recommends
no benches.
Harold Gallup, President, Associated Marketing, thanked City
Manager Hooper, Mayor Schmidt and the Council for postponing his
presentation.
Mr. Gallup presented background information and explained the
service they provide with regard to the contract. He referred to
a cost benefit analysis.
Mr. Gallup explained back in November they asked not to have the
contract terminated and offered the following in exchange: the
City was considering placement of 20 benches of non-advertising
type in the City. They looked at that and agreed to reduce the
overall number of benches. They agreed to cap the total number
at 55, of which 20 would be non-advertising including placement,
maintenance, and repairs. All the cost would still fall to his
company. In addition they would lower the number of potential
revenue benches from 75 to 35. At this particular time, they
have 33 benches with advertising in the City.
Mr. Gallup spoke about doing away with wood seating and going
with recycled material which he showed to the Council. They are
also looking at different framing around the ads.
Mr. Gallup asked the Council to reconsider the termination and
consider the modification and what they have done for the
community in the past and what they are willing to do now. They
have also worked with and been very responsive to'staff.
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Councilman Brown asked City Manager Hooper what his objection was
and why he was not recommending approval. City Manager Hooper
commented on what staff has looked at with regard to
aesthetically enhancing the City and trying to get away from the
benches that have the advertisement.
Parks and Recreation Director Jack Corder spoke about talking of
bus stops and looking at the aesthetics there.
Councilman Vincenzi feels the main
City look better and clean it up.
rid of advertising like the street
personal.
thing is they want to make the
One way to do that is to get
signs. It isn't anything
Mr. Gallup commented on it depending on how much the City wants
to take on with regard to purchasing benches, committing staff,
and committing vehicles. He spoke about the County trying this
before and calling him back and asking him to put the benches
back after about a year.
Mr. Gallup went on to speak about bus shelters. They cost
between $9,000 and $12,000. He spoke about solar shelters which
cost an additional $1,700 to $2,300.
Mr. Gallup further spoke about this becoming more of a pain then
a positive with regard to staff, resources, storage and keeping
track of parts. He spoke about people getting hurt and suing
cities. He also spoke about trash and it always being a problem.
Mayor Schmidt asked if the benches Mr. Gallup is proposing have
trash cans with them. Mr. Gallup told him no they do not at this
time. He spoke about having to be licensed to collect trash and
dispose of it. He believes this needs further studying and he
would be willing to work with it.
Mayor Schmidt thanked Mr. Gallup for his presentation.
Councilman Vincenzi made a motion to recommend termination of the
contract with the Associated Marketing and replace them with 20
benches and trash receptacles to be placed at high traffic areas
for approximately $8,000, second by Councilwoman Rhodes. The
motion CARRIED 3-1. Councilman Brown voted NO.
Mr. Gallups stated they have commitments with small businesses in
Edgewater. This contract expires May 18, 2002. He asked if
there is a way to work their way out of the contract during that
period and take a natural termination so the businesses aren't
hurt that bad. They would freeze the contracts and write letters
to the businesses as a consideration to the businesses.
Mayor Schmidt asked to let the Legal Department and Mr. Gallup
get together. City Manager Hooper suggested they do that.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
There were no citizen comments at this time.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Rhodes had nothing at this time.
Mayor Schmidt had nothing at this time.
Councilman Brown thanked the Police and Fire Department. He had
use of three emergency calls from them. They were very
professional and took care of the situation in a timely manner
and were there in less than the four minute response time. They
made people feel comfortable and not afraid to be.taken care of.
He also thanked the City employees for the flowers and thanked
Mayor Schmidt for attending his mother's memorial.
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Councilman Vincenzi had nothing at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. Res. No. 2001-R-03. Certification that the Habitat for
Humanity Proqram is consistent with the city of Edqewater's
Comprehensive Plan
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. staff recommends
approval.
Mayor Schmidt asked since they have built many homes in the City,
have they had this before. City Manager Hooper stated he thought
it was new. He thought the IRS codes wanted them to show this.
Legal Assistant Matusick read Res. 2001-R-03.
Mayor Schmidt opened and closed the public hearing due to there
being no comments.
Councilwoman Rhodes made a motion to approve Res. 2001-R-03,
second by Councilman Brown. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
B. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 2001-0-01. Amendinq the Code of
Ordinances by Modifyinq Chapter 21 (Land Development Code).
Article XVI (Fire & Hazard Prevention) by the addition of section
21-251 (Fire Impact Fees)
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. Staff recommends
approval.
Legal Assistant Matusick read Ord. 2001-0-01.
Mayor Schmidt opened and closed the public hearing due to there
being no comments.
Councilman Brown made a motion to approve Ord. 2001-0-01, second
by Councilwoman Rhodes. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
C. 1st Readinq. Ord. No. 2001-0-02. Edgewater Lakes Partners.
LLC is requestinq annexation of approximatelY 449+ acres located
west of US 1 and north and south of Volco Road for a proposed
qolf course community
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. He commented on
an enclave that will be created and working with the County with
some language on how that will be resolved. Staff recommends
approval.
Legal Assistant Matusick read Ord. 2001-0-02.
Councilwoman Rhodes wanted it to be clear that this is solely
annexing land and nothing else. City Manager Hooper informed
Council to date, Mr. Howard has worked to resolve any issues they
as staff have brought up as well as the Planning and Zoning Board
and Council
Councilman Brown stated he has spoken to some of the people that
live down by Volco Road. Most of them are not as against this as
they were to begin with.
Mayor Schmidt stated he has had a couple of comments that people
are looking forward to it as it develops.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing
Tim Howard, 3028 willow Oak Drive, as of today th~y have resolved
the issue with the legal aspect which was a Title Company error.
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Mayor Schmidt asked how the process is going with regard to
environmental. Mr. Howard commented on this progressing.
Mr. Howard commented on the cooperation he has been getting with
staff and City Manager Hooper.
City Manager Hooper informed Council they would see this at the
first reading for transmittal of the Comp Plan during the month
of April.
Mayor Schmidt closed the pUblic hearing.
Councilwoman Rhodes made a motion to approve Ord. 2001-0-02,
second by councilman Brown. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Annual Authorization - Mayor or city Manaaer's authorization
for East Volusia Mosquito Control District to make low level
aerial inspection and spray fliahts
B. A Crisis preanancy Center. Inc. 'Walk for Life' Event - The
Center requestina to utilize Riverside Drive to setup water
stations and Kennedy park for a rest stop and bathroom
facilities. saturday. May 5. 2001. for the entire day
Councilwoman Rhodes moyed to approve the Consent Agenda, second
by Councilman Brown. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Enaineerina Services - staff reauestina authorization for
Marshall. Provost and Associates to demolish and remove the Park
Avenue elevated water shortaae tank at an amount not to exceed
$3.500
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. The tank is old
and needs to come down. D.E.P. has advised the City to do major
work to it or remove it.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved for approval, second by Councilman
Brown. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
B. Revised YMCA Aareement - staff recommendina approval of the
revised aareement with the YMCA. (Continued from March 5. 2001.
Item 7C)
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation on the revised
agreement with clarification on the facility and complex. City
Attorney Cookson has reviewed this. They addressed specific
compensation on Page 2 for the liability at hold harmless which
makes it enforceable. On Page 11 they addressed the maintenance
lease. They also added the words to use the YMCA for evacuation
for the two elementary schools. The YMCA looked it over and had
no comments.
Councilman Brown moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Rhodes. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
C. Renewal of Manaaement Aareement - staff recommends approval
of the Aareement between the State of Florida and city of
Edaewater for certain sovereianty submeraed lands and authorize
the Mayor to execute the documents
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Councilman vincenzi moved for approval, second by Councilman
Brown. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
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There was a five-minute recess at this time.
D. Draft Ord. No. 2001-0-03 - staff recommendinq review and
authorization of the Draft Ordinance recommendinq Citv Charter
Article III (City Council) (Compensation). Section 3.05 of the
citv Charter to be returned at the next Council meetinq for
consideration and adoption
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. He commented on
several approaches they have looked at on how they could do a
selection of a salary that is competent and fair. He suggested a
range between $6,000 and $8,000 for Council and $8,000 and
$10,000 for Mayor. This has to be adopted six months before the
election which will be coming up at the last meeting in April.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing. There were no questions
from Council.
Andy Anderson, Pine Tree Drive, asked if this will
ballot. City Manager Hooper explained the Charter
provision if it is done six months before it's not
the Charter. It would not be a Charter amendment.
done by Ordinance with proper public hearings.
be put on the
has a
portioned with
This can be
Mr. Anderson stated he is not against our leadership getting a
raise but he didn't hear any mention of the per capita income.
From what he has been told the per capita income in this City is
really not that high. He feels this should be one of the
considerations. City Manager Hooper commented on where the
salaries are paid from.
Councilwoman Rhodes believes the per capita income in Edgewater
is a little over $30,000 per year.
Councilman Brown stated at $2.00 per person at 20,000 population
that gives the Mayor $10,000 and Council $7,500.
Mr. Anderson commented on being satisfied with our leadership
now. City Manager Hooper commented on what has occurred in the
last few years on economic development. He spoke about the per
capita leaping and continuing to jump.
Mr. Anderson is very surprised the per capita is $30,000 and
would like to see some paperwork on that.
Councilwoman Rhodes does not think Council is in it for the
money. She is not interested in voting a raise for City Council
because they don't know that they will be here when this raise
takes effect so it really has not a lot to do with them at this
point in time. She is not as interested in voting a raise for
City Council as she is having a policy in place.
City Manager Hooper stated he hasn't had any input. He is
comfortable recommending that they move on this. This isn't
necessarily something tonight to vote on as much as give him
direction. He would like to put it on for the first reading for
the first meeting in April.
Councilman Vincenzi feels comfortable with letting City Manager
Hooper pursue this. He also stated he isn't in it for the money.
He feels Mayor Schmidt deserves a raise because he puts in a lot
of time.
City Manager Hooper suggested they let him advertise larger
numbers because you can always go down but you can't go up once
it is advertised. He agreed to advertise an $8,000 amount for
Council and $10,000 for Mayor.
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Councilwoman Rhodes would like more public input.
Councilwoman Rhodes made a motion for City Manager Hooper to
pursue this, second by Councilman Brown. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
E. Reauest for Donation - the Edqewater Fire-Rescue Association
Inc. requestinq a donation of $6.000 to helD offset the cost of
the Annual 4th of Julv Firework's DisDlay
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. staff is
recommending approval. New Smyrna has taken a definitive stance
that they can't fund something outside their City. They have
offered to do other things in their City to help sponsor some of
this and other events.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked that this be included in the budget as
a line item. City Manager Hooper agreed to include it next year.
Councilman Brown moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Rhodes. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
OFFIC~R REPORTS
City Clerk Wadsworth commented on Edgewater, Colorado and their
having a mural similar to ours. She presented Mayor Schmidt with
a shirt and hat.
Legal Assistant Matusick had nothing at this time.
City Manager Hooper commented on a lawsuit regarding Margaret
Stanley vs. City of Edgewater, City of Edgewater Police
Department, John G. Taves and Gary Conroy.
City Manager Hooper stated our insurance is going to provide us
coverage. Foley & Lardner has been helping since right now there
is no insurance coverage until you are served. He agreed to keep
the Council informed. Councilman Vincenzi asked about the plan
of action if the City is served. City Manager Hooper elaborated
on going to the insurance who would appoint an Attorney. He has
asked the insurance company to provide a list of attorneys that
he would like to interview. He would like to have this litigated
because he can't find an ounce of proof to any issues out there.
Councilman Vincenzi asked if City Manager Hooper is planning on
having any outside agencies do an investigation. City Manager
Hooper stated once we are served, if there is an investigation to
be done by the Attorney he will use either the Sheriff's Offic~,
FDLE or the State Attorney.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked why this came forward three years after
the incident. city Manager Hooper commented on a fairly vague
letter sent to Mayor Allman and City Attorney Clayton back in
1999 regarding a false arrest.
Mayor Schmidt asked if they have a copy of the letter. Legal
Assistant Matusick stated it was a notice of claim, which is what
they are required to do statutorily to put the City on notice
that they might file a suit at some point in time. City Manager
Hooper informed Council it is in their packages.
Mayor Schmidt commented on a couple of different lawsuits they
experienced when they first came into office. They took a stance
then if we are not guilty and didn't do anything, we do not want
the easy way out. City Manager Hooper commented on it coming
down to a business decision. He commented on the insurance
company coming in and make a recommendation. He is assuming they
decide they would like to settle. If they put a number of the
table and the Council won't settle, that limits their ability to
pay at that number. If it goes to court and it is much higher or
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City Manager Hooper stated the only part they have to worry about
is if the insurance company decides to advise the Council
formally to settle and they end their payment or coverage at that
point. They will study that very hard. His conversation with
James Tanner was not a good conversation. The first words were
can you settle before he even wanted to talk of the case. Mayor
Schmidt stated that would worry him right off. He asked if the
insurance company says something and the Council doesn't want to
do that, is there a way to go back to the other parties. He
commented on not wanting to set a precedent in the beginning.
City Manager Hooper stated he is interested in getting the
insurance company to do the due diligence and the discovery. He
is also trying to get an attorney that we have worked with in the
past that would rather do what is right.
Mayor Schmidt questioned if both officers still work for us and
if they would go on an administrative leave. City Manager Hooper
stated those are within the hands of management and he sees
absolutely no purpose for that right now.
CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
There were no citizen comments at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman Rhodes
moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:27 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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