01-09-2012 - Regular CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 9, 2012
6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Thomas called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Michael Thomas Present
Councilman Justin Kennedy Present
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington Excused
Councilman Michael Ignasiak Present
Council Seat District 4 Vacant
City Manager Tracey Barlow Present
City Clerk Bonnie Wenzel Present
City Attorney Aaron Wolfe Present
City Clerk Wenzel recognized Council Seat District 4 was vacant due to
the passing of Councilman Ted Cooper.
INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the Flag.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting of October 17, 2011
Councilman Ignasiak moved to approve the October 17, 2011 minutes,
second by Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
B. Regular Meeting of November 7, 2011
Councilman Ignasiak moved to approve the November 7, 2011 minutes,
second by Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
3. PRESENTATIONS /PROCLAMATIONS /PLAQUES /CERTIFICATES /DONATIONS
There were no Presentations at this time.
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4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizen spoke:
Ellen Weller, 619 Faulkner Street, New Smyrna Beach, requested
Council's assistance to help save New Smyrna Beach Kmart.
Mayor Thomas informed Ms. Weller that item was on the agenda under
Item 8E and asked her to speak at that time.
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, thanked City Manager Barlow and
Environmental Services Director Brenda Dewees for working on the
problem with the retention ponds in Edgewater Landing.
5. APPROVAL OR CHANGES /MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA
Mayor Thomas announced they would be adding Resolution 2012 -R -03 as
Item 8E and they would add Item 10D the Wastewater Annual Fee.
6. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Kennedy reported on working on the Scholarship Committee
and described the details of "The Princess Ball" they would be holding
on February 11 at the YMCA.
Councilman Kennedy also reported he was working on the sign holiday
and he hoped to get that on the agenda in the next meeting or two.
Councilman Ignasiak had nothing at this time.
Mayor Thomas reported on being invited to a meeting with DOT and City
Staff today regarding the median changes in Edgewater to enhance the
safety on U.S. #1. He was very proud of City Staff. They made a lot
of compromises. He identified because of the persistence of Staff
they will have beautification. They emphasized it would affect the
businesses along U.S. #1. He was very pleased with the meeting today.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Authorization of the purchase of a Kenworth T370 Garbage Truck
from Kenworth of Central Florida in the amount of $131,620,
piggybacking the Florida Sheriffs Bid 11 -19 -0907
B. Authorization to purchase a Kenworth Semi Tractor in the
amount of $130,544 using the Florida Sheriffs Bid 11 -19 -0907
C. Authorization for the City Manager to execute the Sub
Recipient Agreement for the FY 2010 /2011 Amendment and FY
2011/2012 and to authorize the necessary budget amendment
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D. Authorization for the City Manager to renew the contract with
D &A Building Services for Janitorial Services (Contract
Addendum No. 2)
Councilman Ignasiak moved to approve the Consent Agenda, second by
Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. 2 Reading, Ordinance No. 2011 -0 -17 - Amending and Restating
Article III (Permitted, Conditional, Accessory & Prohibited
Uses), Section 21.37.05 (Special Activity Permit Criteria) of
Chapter 21 (Land Development Code)
City Attorney Wolfe read Ordinance 2011 -0 -17 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation and recommended
approval.
Due to there being no Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilman Kennedy made a motion to approve Ordinance 2011 -0 -17,
second by Councilman Ignasiak.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
B. 2 Reading, Ordinance No. 2011 -0 -18 - Chapter 12.5 (Parks and
Recreation), Article I (In General) of the City of Edgewater
Code of Ordinances
City Attorney Wolfe read Ordinance 2011 -0 -18 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation and recommended
approval.
Due to there being no Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilman Kennedy made a motion to approve Ordinance 2011 -0 -18,
second by Councilman Ignasiak.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
C. Resolution No. 2012 -R -01 - Electing to use the uniform method
of collecting non -ad valorem special assessments
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City Attorney Wolfe read Resolution 2012 -R -01 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation with regard to
transitioning with the tenant billing and consider the opportunity to
place the recycling, refuse and stormwater as an assessment associated
with the annual tax bill. It is not an increase in fees; it is just
how it is paid. He further spoke of the tenant only being responsible
for the consumption of water and sewer. He further commented on the
requirement of advertising for four consecutive weeks and identified
the advertising began the week of December 18 which they complied
with. He spoke of the request for an extension with the Property
Appraiser, which they had received favorable permission for, since
they didn't meet the January 1" timeline with the resolution.
Councilman Ignasiak clarified there would be no additional cost to the
taxpayer and that it would be added to the tax bill. City Manager
Barlow informed him that was correct and commented on helping changing
the stigma that Edgewater has always had that Edgewater has the
highest water bill, which they hear on a regular basis. The City is
actually the third lowest as it relates to the water portion of the
bill. He also mentioned the misconception because of everything being
included on the water bill. We are one of only a few cities that does
it this way.
Mayor Thomas asked how many cities were using this way of payment.
Finance Director McKinney identified New Smyrna Beach, Volusia County,
Daytona Beach, Ormond Beach, Holly Hill, Deland, Orange City and
Deltona. Pretty much every City has a portion of something as a non -
ad valorem special assessment.
There was further discussion regarding this creating the opportunity
to make the decisions in the future based on what to include on the
tax bill.
Mayor Thomas asked Councilman Kennedy which direction would be better
for the tenant /landlord. Councilman Kennedy felt the real reason they
were doing this was because it removed some of the liability that
rests upon being paid by the tenant. By putting it on the tax bill
ultimately it will get paid because the tax assessor pays us and then
they collect from the homeowner. He further identified it reduces the
risk to the City not getting paid because they are actually putting
less on the bill.
Councilman Kennedy felt if someone was going to be living in a house
and they create recycling and refuse they should be responsible for
paying to have it removed. He then presented an example where
sometimes it isn't so black and white and removes some of the
confusion.
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Mayor Thomas asked how much the tax bill would go up. Mr. McKinney
informed him it would go up $369, which was the same $369 that they
pay currently.
City Manager Barlow also identified the water bill would decrease by
the $369 in a one year period as well. Currently today, if the bill
isn't paid the previous month, the garbage truck drivers have a list
they use and they do not pick up that garbage. By placing it on the
tax bill, the refuse driver will pick it up if it is on the curb.
Mayor Thomas confirmed the property owner would pay the tax bill and
the tenant would pay the water bill. Councilman Kennedy identified he
would have to go back to the tenant and raise the rent $30 a month if
as a landlord he wanted to come out with a zero gain or loss. He
further spoke of the additional cost to the landlord and offsetting
the cost by having the tenant pay the landlord the additional $30 per
month and the landlord would pay for the garbage on the tenant's
behalf, which he felt removed the entire risk of the tenant not paying
a water bill.
Councilman Kennedy disclosed he was no longer a landlord and that this
was a fairness issue for him. He spoke of wanting to know what the
costs are with any business as opposed to it being a giant what if.
He felt a $200 deposit would help and the policy being what it would
be would curtail a lot of the abuse. The easy fix was to have the
landlord raise the bill $30 a month.
Mayor Thomas asked what the assurance was of the City getting the
money over the old way and if it was better. City Manager Barlow
informed him it would be better.
Mayor Thomas felt if this passed the property owners' needed to be
notified that they would see it on their tax bill.
City Manager Barlow commented on several things having to occur to
transition the tenant billing and to the assessment which would occur
between January 9 and October 1, 2012 with regard to a timeline.
Mayor Thomas asked for Citizen Comment.
The following citizens spoke:
NoraJane Gillespie, 2263 Candlewood Lane, New Smyrna Beach, commented
on her refuse and stormwater being included on her tax bill when she
lived in the unincorporated County and being very happy with it.
Robert Overton, 631 Starboard Avenue, spoke of the people who are
retired and on a fixed income. He spoke of the increases to his
taxes. It is easier for him to pay that on a monthly basis than it is
to come up with that amount of money at one point in time during the
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year. There are a lot of retirees in the community that are on fixed
incomes that may concerned about that same issue.
Agnes Witter, 223 Flagler Avenue, asked how much it would cost them
additionally to have the County collect this for us over and above
what they have been paying the County to collect our taxes. Mr.
McKinney informed her per Becky Jones, Property Appraiser, there would
be no increase.
Gene Emter, 513 Portside Lane, identified if that amount of money was
put on the local tax bill, they could deduct it on their federal.
They would end up saving 15% - 25% depending on your tax bracket,
which he felt was a plus.
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, felt it was a confusing issue.
There has been a lot of talk on the road, especially in Edgewater
Landing and they don't like the fact that it would be a once a year
payment. He was sure there were a lot of people in Edgewater who live
on fixed incomes and pay monthly and if they let it go to yearly they
wouldn't have the money to do it. People in Edgewater Landing asked
him to bring this up due to being very concerned.
Jim Fisher, 2941 Mango Tree Drive, stated he spoke with 35 homeowner
occupants and they all said they would much rather pay monthly than
once a year. He felt the same way. He spoke of not getting the City
newsletter because he signed up for e- billing. He felt there were
other ways to do this that the City hadn't looked at. He wanted to
help the Council come up with a different way to do this and suggested
having two different types of deposits.
Dave Kneiszler, 2319 Unity Tree Drive, stated the only thing he has
heard talked about were landlords and he looks around in Edgewater and
sees mostly single family homes. He asked if there were that many
landlords. Councilman Kennedy informed him 25% of our homes were
rented. Mr. Eissler pointed out that meant 75% of the people were not
represented by the comments. He further spoke against putting this on
the taxes.
David Ross, 2803 Needle Palm Drive, agreed paying this annually in one
lump sum was going to be tough for a lot of the 75% of non landlords.
He could pay $30 a month but he couldn't pay $360 a year because he
would blow the $30 and so would most of the residents. He has heard
the main reason is because they have a stigma and that it would make
it easier for the City to collect the money. He felt there were other
ways to do this. He remembered Mayor Thomas saying on more than one
occasion they would have to find new sources of revenue. He read from
the display ad that was published for four consecutive weeks and
stated this was a resolution they were going to vote on that said
"this is for the provision of capital infrastructure, essential
municipal services and related services, facilities and programs
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including "but not limited to" stormwater, refuse, and recycling. He
asked why it said it was not limited to those issues and asked if this
was an intent to raise new revenues. If it wasn't he felt each person
voting on this needed to say that tonight. He spoke of the rates
being raised 20% in the last four years way above the inflation rate.
He asked if they were going to raise rates.
Councilman Kennedy explained this was not a way to raise rates or put
a bunch of money in the bank. He is no longer a landlord and hasn't
been for three years. He spoke of what has happened in Edgewater for
a long time with regard to landlords having to pay the bill for
tenants who fail to pay it. The City currently liens those
properties. This new way will not change that. His gripe was the
landlords had to pay these bills and that the City could change the
policy by accepting a better deposit. He is against this. This was a
compromise he felt would be a way to negate risk and meet in the
middle. He agreed that $30 a month was easier than $360 a year.
There was no other motivation for him other than to do things that are
good for this City. Making the landlords responsible for somebody
else's water bill was not good for the City. Shifting the charge from
a monthly bill to an annual bill does not change the amount they
charge for the water, garbage, refuse or stormwater. It boils down to
a cash flow issue. He spoke of the added risk to the City by doing
business with tenants who have no ownership to be liened. He felt
this was a compromise and a way to balance risk.
Councilman Ignasiak stated they were talking about collection method.
The plan the City was proposing would streamline it administratively,
make it easier to collect the money in one tax bill, take a burden
administratively off of the inside here and probably lower our risk.
He spoke of hearing comments that people would rather have a smaller
bite every month than one big bite at the end of the year. Government
exists for the sole reason of providing services to its citizens. He
felt if the citizens decide they would rather have smaller bites taken
out every month than one big bite at the end of the year than that is
where they need to go and that is what they need to do because it is
all about budgeting.
Mayor Thomas commented on the way they collect the water bill and the
landlord /tenant thing being probably the biggest complaint he has
heard since becoming Mayor in 2005. They have had workshops and
experts come in and assess the situation and tell them which way to
go. This is a compromise. It isn't a new source of revenue. You
would pay the same amount in one big bite at the end of the year or in
smaller bites every month. It would be easier for him to pay it every
month.
Councilman Kennedy suggested they explore doing some and not all. The
stormwater was a no brainer. The refuse and recycling are bigger line
items and there is the argument that the tenant should be responsible
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for those items because they are a consumable type of thing. City
Manager Barlow explained even by passing the resolution tonight
doesn't mean tomorrow they run off and put everything on the
assessment. It means they complied with the four readings and it
gives them that option. If they decide they don't want to exercise
that option at least they have the ability to make that decision. It
all comes down to the tenant billing and that level of risk. They
could keep it as it is, still do the tenant billing and increase the
deposit for the renters but be prepared if the utility deposit is
twice as much as a neighboring community, they will deal with that
from the landlords of why is the utility deposit so much.
Councilman Ignasiak asked if it was possible to table this resolution
tonight instead of voting on it. He wanted to get some more public
feedback. City Manager Barlow informed him they could continue it to
a date certain or if they continue to a not date certain, they would
again have to pay for advertising. Councilman Ignasiak wanted to keep
the options open.
Councilman Kennedy felt there was a large portion of the City that
pays escrow on a mortgage monthly and their escrow would be adjusted.
There was a brief discussion regarding there being only one reading
for resolutions as opposed to two readings for an ordinance.
Wayne Knicker, 801 Egret Court, questioned if they would pay in
advance or pay at the end.
Councilman Ignasiak informed him they hadn't decided that. Councilman
Kennedy informed him if it goes on the tax bill they would pay at the
end of the year. Mr. Knicker felt they should all be able to save up
for this and it shouldn't be a problem. Councilman Kennedy questioned
where the responsibility lied. Does it rely on government to make
sure you save your money or is it an individual responsibility?
Mayor Thomas entertained a motion.
Councilman Ignasiak moved to approve Resolution 2012 -R -01, second by
Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
D. Resolution No. 2012 -R-02 - An amendment to the purchase & sale
agreement between American Architectural Graphics and the City
for property located in the ParkTowne Industrial Center
City Attorney Wolfe read Resolution 2012 -R -02 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation and recommended
approval.
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Councilman Ignasiak asked about the $1,950 that was still owed by
Samuel Sydeski. City Manager Barlow explained that would be adjusted
at the closing.
The following citizen spoke:
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, asked how much the property was
worth that they were talking about and what they were going for. City
Manager Barlow explained at the time the contract done it was $50,000
an acre and it was 1.7 acres, which was the market value at the time
the property was selling. It is much lower than that now.
There was a brief discussion regarding the City gaining money because
of the value of the property being higher when the contract was signed
as opposed to being lower now.
Mr. Capria wanted to know how much the City paid for the property when
the City originally bought it. City Manager Barlow wasn't sure
because that was prior to him.
Due to there being no further Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilman Ignasiak move to approve Resolution 2012 -R -02, second by
Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
E. Resolution No. 2012 -R -03 - Expressing support from the City
Council to keep the Kmart Store in New Smyrna Beach open
City Attorney Wolfe read Resolution 2012 -R -03 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation with regard to the Kmart
in New Smyrna Beach closing.
Councilman Kennedy felt it was a good idea to ask Sears Holding
Corporation to reconsider but he felt they needed to prepare for the
eventual closing.
Mayor Thomas commented on being here since 1972 and having to go to
South Daytona to Zayres. He spoke of being excited when McDonalds and
Kmart came to New Smyrna. He felt this was a shame and identified he
would be supporting it.
The following citizens spoke:
Ellen Weller, 619 Faulkner Street, New Smyrna Beach, requested the
Council's assistance to help keep Kmart open. She addressed four
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areas that increased business. She estimated over 50 jobs would be
lost. They believe 12 of them were Edgewater residents, 5 were
Daytona State College students, 1 was a high school student and one
employee was 85 years old. They have a petition signed by 5,200
customers, 1,200 of whom are Edgewater residents. She further
commented on this being a severe hardship in many cases for some
people to go elsewhere. She then commented on the economic effect on
other businesses and the increase to the business since Walmart left.
They have been making many phone calls and are getting positive
feedback. She then referred to a petition of 27 signatures done by
the Friendly Shores Mobile Home Park.
Wayne Knicker, 801 Egret Court, spoke to a lot of people that hate to
drive all the way out to Walmart. He felt the Council's support would
help.
Mike Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, felt they should support this
100% to give Kmart a chance to compete against Walmart. Walmart has
taken all of the small businesses away.
Muriel Lamee, 914 Faulkner Street, was speaking for the employees
because they aren't allowed to come to the meetings or speak. She
spoke of Kmart being here since the 1980's. When Walmart came in
everybody went there because it was convenient. Some people are set
in their ways and they still stayed with Kmart. People don't want to
drive out by I -95. She spoke of the employees being ones who are
losing the most and their dedication. She felt the Council should
stand behind the voters that are before them asking for their help.
She encouraged the Council to do whatever they have to do to get
Corporate to hold their store where it is which she felt would get
Council more votes.
Regina Hewitt, 2009 Debbie Street, New Smyrna Beach, wanted to
reiterate what everybody else was saying. She felt all of the cities
needed to pull together. She had a copy of the petition if Council
wanted to look at it.
Janet Nolan, 127 E. Ocean Avenue, has shopped at Kmart since 1988.
She was wondering if it would be possible to give them a tax break so
their store could make more money if they were paying less taxes or a
time limit to see if they will be more profitable since Walmart has
moved. She felt the business has tripled since Walmart moved out by
I -95.
City Manager Barlow informed Ms. Nolan they were located in the City
of New Smyrna Beach so this Council was not able to give them a tax
break or anything else.
Councilman Kennedy stated he was here when they built Kmart and
remembered his mom driving them to Bealls. He hopes it does stay. He
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further spoke of Kmart as a corporation being stuck in its way and
what got Kmart to this point being Kmart and its management. Now it
is owned by one man and that one man has made these decisions. No
matter how much they band together as a community, the ultimate
decision is up to that one man. They can continue to not change and
take the path that Kmart has taken into non existence or if they are
lucky enough to band together and get an extension of life for our
Kmart would be awesome. He would fully support that and do whatever
he could to support it but he felt they needed to look into the future
and be prepared when the day does come that they ultimately do close
Kmart.
Due to there being no further Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilman Ignasiak moved to approve Resolution 2012 -R -03, second by
Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
9. BOARD APPOINTMENTS
A. General Employees' Pension Board - Council affirmation of the
reappointment of Councilwoman Gigi Bennington to a three -year
term, expiring on February 5, 2015
Councilman Ignasiak made a motion to affirm the reappointment of
Councilwoman Bennington for a three -year term to the General
Employees' Pension Board, second by Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
B. General Employees' Pension Board - Council affirmation of the
City Manager's representative Tim Sopko to a three -year term,
expiring on February 5, 2015
Councilman Ignasiak made a motion to affirm the reappointment of Tim
Sopko for a three -year term to the General Employees' Pension Board,
second by Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
C. General Employees' Pension Board - Council affirmation of the
SPEA representative Robert Laramore to a three -year term,
expiring on February 5, 2015
Councilman Kennedy made a motion to affirm the reappointment of Robert
Laramore for a three -year term to the General Employees' Pension
Board, second by Councilman Ignasiak.
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The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
D. Citizen Code Enforcement Board - Councilman Ignasiak's
appointment due to the expired term of Linda Johnson, who
seeks reappointment
Councilman Ignasiak moved to reappoint Linda Johnson to the Citizen
Code Enforcement Board, second by Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
E. Citizen Code Enforcement Board - Mayor Thomas' appointment due
to the expired term of Alice Haldeman, who seeks reappointment
Mayor Thomas nominated Alice Haldeman to be reappointed to the Citizen
Code Enforcement Board.
Councilman Ignasiak moved to reappoint Alice Haldeman to the Citizen
Code Enforcement Board, second by Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
10. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Purchase of 104 N. Park Place - Authorization for the Mayor to
execute an agreement for purchase and the appropriate closing
documents and authorize the appropriate budget amendment
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Ignasiak confirmed there was another bid on this besides
the City's. City Manager Barlow further commented on the other bid.
Councilman Ignasiak felt this fit in with their future plans. City
Manager Barlow further commented on future plans of that property.
Councilman Kennedy felt their offer was not bona fide due to it being
tough to get a loan on the house if not impossible. He wouldn't
counter the $31,500 based on a loan.
Mayor Thomas wanted to give City Manager Barlow the power to
negotiate. City Manager Barlow spoke of staff continuing to negotiate
and Council knowing what the maximum is and not having to negotiate
that on public record.
Due to there being no further Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilman Ignasiak moved to approve the City Manager executing an
agreement for the purchase of 104 N. Park Place, second by Councilman
Kennedy.
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City Manager Barlow pointed out they needed to include a budget
amendment with that. Councilman Ignasiak stated not to exceed. City
Manager Barlow stated a budget amendment and a cost not to exceed
$50,000, which would take care of everything.
Councilman Kennedy stated they would love to have that piece of
property but they don't have to have it today. He wasn't sure he was
comfortable paying more than the appraised value. Councilman Ignasiak
informed him they could walk away. City Manager Barlow informed
Councilman Kennedy they could approve the purchase of the property now
and he could come back with the costs for demolition. City Manager
Barlow confirmed the price of the residence would be no more than
$34,900, which was the asking list price now.
Councilman Kennedy asked if when they execute the purchase if they had
to come back for final approval. City Manager Barlow informed him he
would just bring the contract back.
Councilman Ignasiak restated the motion to approve the purchase of 104
N. Park Place, authorizing the Mayor to execute an agreement and the
appropriate closing documents with a not to exceed price of $50,000,
second by Councilman Kennedy.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
B. Approval of Work Order No. 2007 -04 with CPH Engineers Inc., to
provide environmental monitoring of the wetlands identified in
the City's Consumptive Use Permit and authorization for the
City Manager to execute the document
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation and recommended approval
for them to continue that monitoring.
City Manager Barlow addressed concerns identified by Councilman
Ignasiak, Mayor Thomas and Councilman Kennedy.
Due to there being no further Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilman Kennedy moved to approve Work Order No. 2007 -04 with CPH
Engineers, second by Councilman Ignasiak.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
C. Authorization for the City Manager to perform due diligence
research in the amount not to exceed $20,360 for the potential
purchase of an existing marina located at 2001 S. Riverside
Drive and authorize the necessary budget amendment
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City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Ignasiak explained they were paying for experts to take a
look at that and give their opinion on the status of that situation.
He asked if they would give their opinion of the value. City Manager
Barlow informed him yes, they would have an appraiser do that as well
plus a consultant that would talk about the condition of the docks.
He spoke of being able to put together a business plan and needing the
experts to identify the costs associated with anything that has to do
with the marina as they go to put this business together before they
make the final decision to purchase or not.
Mayor Thomas asked how much property was there. City Manager Barlow
presented the details of the property with regard to size, permitting,
dock spaces and the buildings that are currently on the property. He
further identified the Comprehensive Plan, part of the Coastal Element
which talks about public access, that any time there is an opportunity
to secure additional public access into the Indian River that they
should research those opportunities. It was also addressed in the
Vision Plan and Comprehensive Economic Development Strategy.
Councilman Kennedy talked to a lot of people around town about this
and everybody was positive about the idea that they would have that
marina for public use. He was excited about it and felt it would be a
good asset for Edgewater.
Councilman Ignasiak liked the idea and the concept but was concerned
with what the experts would come back with. He felt this was a good
investment.
Mayor Thomas felt they had to do something and was really excited
about it.
Mayor Thomas asked for public comment.
The following citizens spoke:
Mike Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, asked if they wanted to hire
someone for $20,000 to oversee the buying of this piece of property.
City Manager Barlow identified the surveys, inspections and appraisals
that would be done for the $20,000.
Mr. Visconti questioned having anybody in -house that would know about
this. City Manager Barlow explained these are marine engineers.
There was a brief discussion regarding FIND pledging a percentage of
assistance with purchase and they would probably be able to get some
additional grants.
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Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, felt $20,000 was not bad for what
they are going to check. He felt they should check further such as
with New Smyrna and their marina, which he heard was almost a flop.
He spoke of not doing badly with ParkTowne but they didn't do well
either. He then commented on the money the City lost with Edgewater
Harbor. He commented on the slips they would have had there if that
went through, which would have taken care of what they are talking
about. He then expressed concern with the costs of building it and
dredging, which he felt needed to be looked at before they make these
decisions.
Councilman Ignasiak informed Mr. Capria of the grants and funding
identified by City Manager Barlow that they as a government agency may
be eligible for from the State and various organizations which are not
open to private enterprise.
Councilman Kennedy commented on needing more public access to the
water.
Agnes Witter, 223 Flagler Avenue, asked if they were planning on
earning income by renting slips. She had a 24' pontoon boat there in
the 1990's which she couldn't launch there. She commented on the
launch there being very problematic. She felt they should not only
look at the price to purchase it but also the cost to improve the
property so it could be used by the public.
Mayor Thomas stated even if they went with the existing they could
still launch jet skis, kayaks and canoes, which would take the traffic
away from Kennedy Park.
City Manager Barlow identified there were a lot of options and
presented some examples. He further commented on the amount of
research they have been doing.
Due to there being no further Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilman Kennedy made a motion to authorize the City Manager to
perform due diligence research in the amount not to exceed $20,360 for
the potential purchase of an existing marina located at 2001 South
Riverside Drive and authorize the necessary budget amendments, second
by Councilman Ignasiak.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
D. Certification that the cost of the Wastewater Annual Fee is a
Fiscal Hardship due to the Per Capita Taxable Value being less
than the statewide average
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
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Councilman Ignasiak stated he liked it. Anything you can save money
on especially in the permitting area is a positive.
Due to there being no further Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilman Kennedy made a motion to approve the certification that the
cost of the Wastewater Annual Fee is a Fiscal Hardship due to the Per
Capita Taxable value being less than the statewide average, second by
Councilman Ignasiak.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
11. OFFICER REPORTS
A. City Clerk
City Clerk Wenzel informed Council qualifying for the Special Election
for Council Seat 4 ended Friday at noon. They had two candidates
qualify therefore they would not be having the Primary Election on
February 7 They would only have the General Election on February
28 to fill that seat.
There was a brief discussion regarding the savings associated with not
having to have a Primary and General Election.
City Clerk Wenzel commented on having a City of Edgewater Facebook
page up and running to provide information to the citizens. She was
not able to actually show them the page due to problems with her
keyboard and not being able to log in but agreed to show them next
month.
B. City Attorney
City Attorney Wolfe had nothing at this time.
C. City Manager
City Manager Barlow referred to a memorandum from Finance Director
McKinney with regard to the timeline for the transition to the water
bill tenant.
City Manager Barlow then referred to the 2012 Project Goals.
City Manager Barlow informed Council tomorrow in the Council Chambers
at 6 p.m. the Economic Development Board would be holding a workshop
for the businesses of Edgewater entitled "How Can We Make Things
Better ".
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City Manager Barlow informed Council on January 21 was the New Smyrna
Beach Home Show from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Canal Street.
City Manager Barlow also reminded Council Edgewater's Expo would be
held March 30 which would be a three day event with a carnival and
entertainment.
12. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizen spoke:
Jim Fisher, 2941 Mango Tree Drive, commented on the perception people
have about certain things, such as the water bill being the highest in
the area. He has lived in Edgewater six months. He wanted to
volunteer his assistance and wanted to meet with the City Manager to
discuss ideas of how they can accomplish some of the things they want
to accomplish without it being too onerous on anybody. He mentioned
being through this before due to being the Mayor of Port Orange for 10
years.
Mr. Fisher then commented on Port Orange having a minimum bill for
homeowners for utilities but they didn't call it a minimum usage bill,
it was an availability charge. He spoke of the money lost by not
charging someone that has a vacation home that isn't here for six
months.
City Manager Barlow expressed he would love the opportunity to meet
with Mr. Fisher and encouraged him to give him a call. Mr. Fisher
thought maybe he could help them save some of the $20,000 due to being
a licensed real estate broker who has handled many commercial
properties and also has appraisal experience.
13. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Mayor Thomas adjourned the
meeting at 7 :50 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer, CMC
Attest: APPROVED:
City of Edgewater, Florida
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Bonnie Wenzel, City Clerk Gigi :ennington, Vic- Ma p
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