04-20-1993
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Edgewater Firefighters' Pension Fund
Minutes
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, April 20, 1993
Conference Room, City Hall
6:42 P.M.
The Regular Meeting of the Firefighters' Pension Fund was
called to Order by Chairman Al Gilbert on Tuesday, April
20, 1993 at 6:42 p.m. in the Conference Room of City Hall.
ROLL CALL: Members present were: Firefighter James
Castetter, Chief William C. Vola, Mr. Robert Morin, and
Chairman Al Gilbert. Mr. Ben Wagner was absent. Also
present were Mr. Steve Burkhalter from Shearson Lehman
Brothers and Recording Secretary Lisa R. Warren.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: The Minutes for the January
19,1993 Regular Meeting were submitted for approval. Chief
Vola moved to accept the Minutes as submitted. Firefighter
Castetter seconded. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
Chairman Gilbert introduced Mr. Steve Burkhalter from
Shearson Lehman Brothers to make his recommendations to
the Board regarding investments. Mr. Burkhal ter stated
there was $7,497.70 in the cash account. He recommended
doing nothing until there was more to invest so as to keep
some liquid for expenses. Chairman Gilbert stated since
the Board took over the account until now it had grown
from approximately $34,000 to $77,000. Mr. Burkhalter
explain how this had come about and investment plans for
the future. The Board thanked Mr. Burkhalter for his
presentation and he left at this time.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT: Chairman Gilbert informed the Board
about the Annual Report. He stated a letter was received
from the State accepting it. A copy of the Annual Report
was passed around.
Chairman Gilbert stated there was a pension seminar coming
up in Clearwater Beach in June.
Chairman Gilbert stated the Board needed to look into
getting a C.P.A. to keep the books in a more professional
manner so the annual report could be done. He suggested
this be done by the time the investments reach $100,000.
He stated this is the third year of the Board's existence
and added the Board needs a full actuarial study done
every three years. He stated a C.P.A. would be better
equipped to do it than himself.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Chairman Gilbert asked for a report
from the committee that was formed at the previous meeting
and assigned to check into Bylaws for the Board. Chief
Vola stated the committee could not meet out of the
sunshine so they independently called various pension
funds to see how they deal with the operations of the
Board. There was discussion regarding what different
Boards used for their Bylaws. Chief Vola moved to adopt
Robert's Rules of Order as the guidelines to conduct
business. Mr. Morin seconded. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
Chairman Gilbert stated the Board had received a legal
opinion from the Mr. Sugarman regarding pension credit for
periods of suspension. Mr. Sugarman had stated in his
letter that any time an individual is off for a period of
suspension without pay and doesn't get paid back after the
suspension that the individual would basically not be
employed by the municipality during that time. Chairman
Gilbert stated a letter would be sent to Mr. Finch stating
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he would have to make up the amount of time he lost when
he was suspended for retirement purposes.
Chairman Gilbert noted the Board had received notification
from the Office of the Treasurer that the State has a
contract for Actuarial Services. There was discussion
regarding actuarial services and the costs to the Board as
there is a requirement to have it done every three years.
Chief Vola stated he would talk to Mr. Munoz and see
exactly what it would cost to have the City do the Annual
Reports and Actuarial Studies and bring the information
back to the Board at the next meeting.
Chairman Gilbert stated at the last meeting he was to
check with the State to see what the effects of changing
from a 10 year to a 5 year vesting period. He did not get
an answer from the State yet and he will try again. There
was discussion regarding Chapter plans, vesting and
disability.
NEW BUSINESS: Chairman Gilbert stated
pension seminar in St. Petersburg Beach
Chief Vola moved to sponsor three people
go to the FPPTA Seminar on June 20
individual expenses. Mr. Morin seconded.
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there would be
on June 20 - 23.
who would like to
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Motion CARRIED~
Chairman Gilbert stated we needed to pay Mr. Sugarman I s
bill. There was discussion regarding a charge of $135.00
for correspondence with Ernst & Young, the City's
Auditors. Chief Vola moved to pay Mr. Sugarman I s bill
minus the disputed $135.00 pending a reply to Chairman
Gilbert for the next board meeting. Mr. Morin seconded.
Chairman Gilbert stated he received a letter from Mr.
Sugarman on Health Insurance Subsidy for 175 Plan Holders
that he did not request and Mr. Sugarman was not to bill
us for it. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
Chairman Gilbert stated he would look into costs of
C.P.A.'s just to see how much they were running.
ADJOURNMENT: There being no more business to come before
the Board at this time, Firefighter Castetter moved to
adjourn. Chief Vola seconded. Meeting adjourned at 7: 50
p.m.
If any person decides to appeal any decision made by the pension
Board of Trustees with respect to any matter considered at the above
meeting, that person will need a record of the proceedings and, for
such purpose, may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the
proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and
evidence upon which the appeal is to he based.