07-29-1996
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CITY OF EDGEWATER
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
Regular Meeting
Monday, July 29, 1996
6:30 p.m.
Chairman Masso called to order the regular meeting of the Land Development and Regulatory
Agency at 6:30 p.m., July 29,1996 in the Community Center, 102 N. Riverside Drive.
ROLL CALL
Members present were Mr. Fazzone, Mr. Moncure, Mr. Garthwaite, Ms. Agrusa and Chairman
Masso. Also in attendance was Mark P. Karet, Director of Community Development, Krista A.
Storey, City Attorney and Sondra M. Pengov, Board Coordinator. Board member, Judith
Lichter was recorded as absent.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of June 26, 1996 were presented for approval. Mr. Garthwaite moved to approve
the minutes as presented, seconded by Mr. Fazzone. The motion CARRIED 5-0. Ms. Lichter
was absent and Mr. Hildenbrand was absent from the June meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business at this time.
OLD BUSINESS
Review of Draft Sign Ordinance (Chapter 11. Signs and Advertising)
Chairman Masso asked Mr. Karet for his presentation. Mr. Karet stated, for the record, the
Chamber of Commerce, Edgewater Business Association as well as various sign companies that
have been active within the City, were noticed of the meeting. Mr. Karet said nobody has directly
contacted him, however, Bob Dunn, Building Official and Ms. Storey were contacted.
Chairman Masso asked Mr. Karet if all the comments from the previous meeting had been
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addressed. Mr. Karet replied, yes. Mr. Karet reviewed the means by which the comments were
addressed.
Mr. Moncure had various questions regarding more significant changes to the existing regulations
than those proposed in the draft.
As there was no other discussion from the Board, Chairman Masso asked the public for their
comments.
Ken Cartisano, 106 Naranga Drive: Mr. Cartisano stated he felt the draft sign ordinance was a
vast improvement. Mr. Cartisano said he would like to see the square footage of signs changed as
well as the requirement of an engineer's design for a seven square foot sign. He felt the
engineering requirements should be relaxed. Mr. Karet responded, the City doesn't have the
liberty do that. He said the Building Code states an engineer is required for a sign six square feet
or larger. Chairman Masso said Mr. Cartisano's point is well taken and the City will look into the
legality of the requirements of State law. Discussion followed regarding the requirement of an
engineer. Mr. Karet said he cannot recommend the lowering of the Standard Building Code
requirements.
David Ridner. 2804 Unity Tree Drive: Mr. Ridner presented copies of sign applications from S.
Daytona and New Smyrna Beach that specify when engineering is required. Mr. Ridner also
expressed concern over the square footage and the height of pole sign requirements as stated in
the draft ordinance. He said the requirements for an engineered sign drive up the costs of signs.
Mr. Karet said that this problem will be looked at further by staff.
Glen Williams, 4403 Sea Cove. New Smyrna Beach: Mr. Williams said the definition of
informational and directional signs is confusing. Mr. Karet stated that a clarification will be
made. Mr. Williams discussed non-conforming signs subject to removal as well as the nine-foot
grade clearance. Mr. Karet asked Mr. Williams for example locations of pole cover signs that are
low profile. Mr. Karet and Mr. Williams also discussed the sign requirements for an engineer and
the cities that adopted the Standard Building Code.
David Ross. 2803 Needle Palm Drive: Mr. Ross offered to provide a set of sealed drawings of up
to 16 square feet for the building official to authorize. Mr. Karet said the City would appreciate
having the drawings as long as the engineer authorizes anybody to use the drawings. Mr. Ross
replied, the engineer is authorizing the building official to approve them. Mr. Karet had concerns
with this and said he would look into the legalities of this.
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Discussion continued until the entire draft was reviewed, Chairman Masso then thanked the
gentleman in the audience for their input, and said their points were well taken.
Mr. Karet said when the changes to the draft are complete copies will again be sent to the sign
companies and he would like any comments they may have.
Mr. Karet asked the board if they wanted the corrections/changes brought back to the LD RA for
review. Chairman Masso and the Board agreed they would like to see the changes to the draft
before it goes on to Council.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Community Director's Report
Mr. Karet had nothing to report.
B. Chairman's Report
Chairman Masso had nothing to report.
C. Agency Member's Report
Mr. Fazzone commented, if the Board had this input from the sign companies
during the past three years, the sign ordinance may have been accomplished long
ago.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no additional business to come before the Board, a motion was made and approved
to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by:
Sondra M. Pengov, Board Coordinator
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