10-30-1996
"'"
...."
CIlYOF EDGEWATER
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
Regular Meeting
Wednesday, October 30, 1996
6:30 p.m.
Chairman Masso called to order the regular meeting of the Land Development and Regulatory
Agency at 6:30 p.m., October 30, 1996 in the Community Center, 102 N. Riverside Drive.
ROLL CALL
Members present were Ms. Lichter, Mr. Moncure, Mr. Garthwaite, Ms. Agrusa, Mr. Hildenbrand
and Chairman Masso. Also in attendance was Mark P. Karet, Director of Community
Development, Krista A. Storey, City Attorney and Sandra M. Pengov, Board Coordinator.
Board member, Mr. Fazzone was recorded absent.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Mr. Garthwaite to approve the minutes of July 2, 1996 and August 28,
1996, seconded by Ms. Agrusa. Motion CARRIED 6-0.
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business to report at this time.
OLD BUSINESS
Review of Draft Sign Ordinance (Chapter 11. Siens and Advertising).
Chairman Masso asked Mr. Karet if all the suggestions from the previous meeting had been
addressed. Mr. Karet said all the recommended changes have been incorporated into the new
draft. Mr. Karet explained the changes and the added language made in response to the
comments.
Ms. Litcher questioned whether permits are required for car lots using American flags. Mr. Karet
said flags not meeting the established protocol shall be considered advertising and shall require a
permit. Considerable discussion followed regarding when permits are required for flags as well as
the height limit of flag poles. Mr. Karet said height limitations will be further investigated by
examining other communities' ordinances.
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
Regular Meeting
October 30, 1996
1
~
....,
Also discussed at great length was how to determine whether murals on buildings were done for
advertising purposes or for beautification of the building. Mr. Karet said this is difficult to
determine. He said this topic is discussed under, "works of art that do not include a commercial
message. "
After reviewing and discussing the remainder of the draft ordinance, Chairman Masso asked for
comments from the audience.
John Moore. 2354 Fern Palm Drive: Mr. Moore expressed his objection to the annual sign
inspection. He said he doesn't see how this can be enforced by the City. Mr. Moore further
stated, if the City can't enforce the ordinance why have it.
Ken Cartisano. 106 Naran[Ja Drive: Mr. Cartisano commended staff and the Board on the good
job done preparing the ordinance. He explained that he thought it would be impossible to enforce
the removal of signs after a business vacates a building. Mr. Cartisano asked Mr. Karet to explain
the approved plans that meet the criteria for signs of 32 feet or less. Mr. Karet said, the building
department plans to develop four approved, varied size designs that will be on file in the building
department. These may be used so that an architect or engineer isn't required to certify an
applicants sign.
Gary Roberts. 2411 Pine Tree Drive: Mr. Roberts agreed with Mr. Moore on the annual
inspection being difficult to enforce.
There was additional discussion between the Board and members of the public regarding an
annual inspection of signs, how a fee could be charged, and whether it is required.
Chairman Masso suggested a record of degradation be kept and an inspection conducted every
two or three years.
Mr. Karet said if an inspection is required a fee should be imposed and said staff will consider how
to collect the fee. Mr. Karet agreed with the suggestion that language will be changed to read,
initial sign permits will be good for three years.
Mr. Karet also said signs not conforming to the requirements of this Code shall be permitted to
remain for a period not to exceed seven years as suggested by the Board.
Chairman Masso called for a recess at 7:50 p.m. Meeting resumed at 8:00 p.m.
Discussion of Objections. Recommendations and Comments (ORC) provided by
the Department of Community Affairs regarding proposed rezonine of areas of B-
2 zonine district.
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
Regular Meeting
October 30, 1996
2
~'
...,
Mr. Karet gave a brief history of the comprehensive plan amendment and explained the contents
of the ORC report. Mr. Karet said staff has begun their response to the ORC report and the
maps are being worked on. He said it had been expected that the Department of Community
Affairs would have some adverse comments.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Community Director's Report
Mr. Karet asked the Board if the November meeting, scheduled for November 27th, the eve of
Thanksgiving, was convenient for them. After discussion, it was agreed to combine the
December 25th meeting and the November meeting to December 4th or December 11th,
depending on the availability of the community center.
B. Chairman's Report
The Chairman had nothing to report at this time.
C. Agency Members' Report
Ms. Litcher asked Mr. Karet the status of her motion regarding the public hearing for Golden
Years Lifestyles at the August 28, 1996 meeting. Mr. Karet said a transportation impact study
is being done for a private project, therefore, a study by the City may not need to be done.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no additional business to come before the Board, a motion was made and approved
to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by:
Sondra M. Pengov, Board Coordinator
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
:smp
c:\ldra \minutes\103096
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
Regular Meeting
October 30, 1996
3