10-07-2013 - Regular GAOL
CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 7, 2013
6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, INVOCATION
Mayor Thomas called the Regular meeting to order at 6: 00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers .
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the Flag,
which Mayor Thomas asked the Boy Scouts that were present at the
meeting to help him with. He commented on the time he spent in Boy
Scouts and all the stuff he learned, which lead him to his career as a
Wildlife Officer. He then commented on becoming an Eagle Scout and
did the Boy Scout pledge with the Boy Scouts .
Present Mayor Michael Thomas
Councilwoman Christine Power
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington
Councilman Mike Ignasiak
Councilman Gene Emter
City Manager Tracey Barlow
City Clerk Bonnie Wenzel
City Attorney Aaron Wolfe
Absent None
2 . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no Minutes to be approved at this time.
3. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/DONATIONS
Police Chief Dave Arcieri presented an update on this past week' s Wolf
Pack, Operation CITE (Collective Initiative for Traffic Enforcement) ,
which he considered a big success .
Mayor Thomas asked Police Chief Arcieri for an update on the second K-
9, which he did at this time.
4 . CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
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Mike Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, read a prepared statement into
the record. He asked the Council if they were happy with Edgewater
the way it was today and what the future would bring. He compared
Edgewater to neighboring cities with regard to the issuance of
building permits . He then commented on the 35' height limit being a
50% to 49. 5% vote. He asked if there was a way in the future to
repair the 35 ' height. At the next election he recommended it be put
on the ballot to rescind that resolution.
Mr. Visconti commented on there being many projects in the City back
in 2007 that fell through such as Sea Gate and Edgewater Harbor.
Councilwoman Bennington identified that was a Charter amendment that
was put on by the voters and the only way they could do it was if the
Council decided to put it on the next election to take the height
limit off. Mr. Visconti was hoping something could be done in the
future.
Councilman Emter commented on there being a Charter review done every
five years and questioned where they fall in that cycle . City Clerk
Wenzel thought it was 2014 or 2015. Councilman Emter then questioned
how that comes about and how do suggestions make their way into a
Charter review. City Clerk Wenzel informed him there was typically a
five-member committee that reviewed the Charter and they typically
would go through it section by section and make any recommendations to
City Council . They do notice the meetings and the public is invited
so if anybody had any suggestions, they would consider them. They
bring the recommendation to City Council and Council would do a
resolution to put whichever amendments on the ballot.
Councilwoman Bennington pointed out that each Councilmember appoints
one person from their district.
Councilman Emter asked if there had been any thought or plan as to
when this operation would begin or if it was too soon. City Manager
Barlow informed Council it was something they could research to see if
it was 2014 or 2015 and it would come back before Council, who would
appoint one member from their district and it takes off from there .
He believed if they assembled the committee in 2014 it would be put on
the 2016 ballot. City Clerk Wenzel informed him if they were done in
time it could go on the 2014 ballot. City Manager Barlow spoke of
seeing in the past where the committee and the Council had recommended
no additional changes to the Charter. City Clerk Wenzel informed the
Council if the Charter Review Committee didn't make that
recommendation that they could put it on the ballot also.
Councilwoman Power spoke of some of the building going on in New
Smyrna was Venetian Bay, which was already established that was being
started up again. She didn't think a lot of the building going on in
New Smyrna was 35 feet. City Manager Barlow informed her the only
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thing he was aware of that had occurred in New Smyrna over 35 ' was the
Hampton Inn on Flagler Avenue.
Chuck Martin, 205 Cherrywood Lane, identified he loved Edgewater the
way it was and that was why he had lived here since he was five years
old. He spoke of the industrial park that had brought in a lot of
business . He further spoke in opposition of having condos on the
river blocking the view. He felt Edgewater was one of the last small
towns and pointed out Edgewater was one of the last small towns that
did their own garbage pick up.
Mr. Martin had lived in Wildwood Subdivision for 20 years . He had a
friend with him that was issued a citation for his wife parking on the
grass in the front yard. They don't want residents run out of
Edgewater. He was ready to move out and worked at Boston Whaler.
He' s the kind of neighbor you want. He had a radiator go out in his
truck and his neighbor put it in for him and didn' t charge him a dime .
Nick Marresca, Wildwood Subdivision, spoke of the lady that complained
at the last meeting about his house and people parking on the front
yard. He and five people ride four wheelers at the Mondecks and they
work on their four wheelers at his house. He then commented on
receiving the citation and identified he drove around his neighborhood
tonight and there were 28 people parked on the grass . The last time
he got a warning there were 30 people parked in the grass . He is
buying a house in the next two or three months and if he had to worry
about Code Enforcement all the time he wouldn't live in Edgewater. He
came from New Smyrna to Edgewater because it is cheaper to live here
and he has worked at Boston Whaler for ten years . He doesn't want to
be harassed all the time by Code Enforcement for parking on the grass
and leaving his trash out. They work on the four wheelers at his
house because he has tools. He has run into this problem before and
tried having a shop but has to pay $300 a month to have a shop that he
splits the cost for but they can't afford it. He spoke of blocking
traffic and identified that 90% of his friends drive diesel trucks
that were four door long beds . It was constantly an uphill battle.
He didn' t see how it was fair that all of the other people in the
neighborhood get away with it. He spoke of fertilizing, putting fire
ant killer down, doing landscaping out front as well as putting up a
fence when they moved in and he is a renter. He had photos of the 28
homes that had cars parked on their grass .
City Manager Barlow informed Council the complaint he was referencing
was brought up by the representative from the Homeowners Association
at the last Town Hall meeting that there wasn't strong enough Code
Enforcement. He further identified he received more compliments about
Code Enforcement than he did complaints . He didn't know the
particulars of Mr. Marresca' s circumstance but he has never received
complaints about selective enforcement on any particular resident. He
also described Code Enforcement as being a tough balance. He felt
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Code Enforcement was very fair and went above and beyond in working
with the citizens to help them resolve their issues . Sometimes it ' s
not always to the satisfaction of an individual but they were serving
21, 000 residents and several hundred businesses and were receiving
more compliments than complaints .
Mayor Thomas identified they discussed this at the HOA meeting the
other night. He asked how many Code Enforcement Officers they had.
City Manager Barlow informed him they had two full-time who were
supervised by the Fire Marshal as well as three or four volunteers,
who were able to write notices of violation and citations . Mayor
Thomas spoke of Code Enforcement being complaint driven and felt Code
Enforcement wasn't picking on Mr. Marresca and that someone was
complaining and they were responding to that complaint.
City Manager Barlow reminded Council that there was due process, which
he further commented on.
Councilwoman Bennington spoke of Wildwood Subdivision being notorious
for not having enough parking area. She further spoke of Code
Enforcement being driven by complaints but if they see something when
they are driving around they do write it up. She informed Mr.
Marresca that City Manager Barlow gave him the options and informed
him he could plead his case before the Code Enforcement Board.
Councilman Emter agreed with everything City Manager Barlow said.
Code Enforcement is strong by design and its purpose was clear. They
have all heard complaints and some are valid and some are not. He
felt under the circumstances, when someone has the interest to come
before Council and assert a condition, he felt that deserved to be
looked at. He would appreciate someone meeting with them to go over
the situation.
Mayor Thomas questioned if Councilman Emter was asking that a
Councilmember go there or asking staff, who had already been there and
found him in violation.
Councilman Ignasiak felt Councilman Emter was describing exactly what
the Code Enforcement Board' s position and job was and that there was
an avenue for Mr. Marresca to take to get due process . He informed
Mr. Marresca if he felt offended to exercise his right and go before
the Board and not to pay the fine.
Councilwoman Power felt the problem was that even if he paid the fine,
he still wanted to have people come over on the weekend and work,
which she felt was the bigger issue. She didn't know if there was
another place that they could park and get a ride to his house so he
didn't have continuing violations . She felt he would continue to have
a problem unless he could figure out a better place to put them.
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Mayor Thomas informed Mr. Marresca if he wanted to stay he would have
another three minutes at the end of the meeting under Citizen Comments
to further address this or ask any questions .
5. APPROVAL OR CHANGES/MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA
There were no Changes/Modifications to the agenda at this time.
6. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Ignasiak had comments regarding the last meeting which he
felt would take considerable time so he asked to be put at the end of
Council comments .
Councilman Emter reported on the last Town Hall meeting. He had sent
Council his follow up analysis of the meeting and suggestions for
future meetings . He wasn't sure if they wanted to deal with the
issues that were raised at the last meeting or not. He felt there
were legitimate issues that needed to be discussed so they could all
be on the same page as they move on.
Mayor Thomas felt that needed to be brought up as an agenda item
instead of under a report.
City Manager Barlow informed him they could handle it as a
continuation from the last meeting and agreed to put it on the next
agenda. Mayor Thomas thought Councilman Emter was talking about
issues that came up at the Town Hall meeting. Councilman Emter
confirmed he was talking about the Council ' s opinion of the HOA
meetings and how they go from here and not specific city-wide issues .
Councilwoman Bennington and Mayor Thomas had suggestions on how they
wanted to continue. Mayor Thomas suggested they discuss it under
Councilwoman Bennington' s report.
Councilwoman Power reported on attending the Indian River Lagoon
meeting in New Smyrna at the Brannon Center.
Councilwoman Bennington pointed out that she and Councilwoman Power
were wearing their pink shirts for Breast Cancer Awareness month.
They were on sale at the Fire Department as well as in the Finance
Department in City Hall for $15 for adults and $12 for kids .
Councilwoman Bennington reminded everyone that the Haunted Forest/Fall
Festival was on October 26th from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. at the YMCA.
Admission was a can of food.
Councilwoman Bennington felt that the discussion on the HOA meetings
should occur as the last item under Other Business, Item 10E.
Councilman Ignasiak wanted to deal with the issue had had up front.
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Mayor Thomas identified he would be out of town for the next VCOG
meeting and was not able to attend the last meeting because it was the
same night as the Council meeting. He suggested Councilwoman Power go
to the next meeting, which were held on the 4th Monday of the month.
He had an alternate but wanted her to attend. City Clerk Wenzel
informed her it was October 28th at 5 p.m. and that she would get her
the information.
Councilman Emter pointed out last week they invited Tracey from the
Edgewater Landing HOA to speak at the meeting and he felt he put on an
excellent presentation by talking about the City and where they had
been, where they were and where they were going. He thanked City
Manager Barlow.
Councilman Ignasiak pointed out that lately there had risen attention
amongst the Council over the last few meetings that manifested itself
in their last meeting when several of their senior members raised
questions and issues about the direction and the processes that a
member of the Council was making. He was not present at the meeting
but he reviewed the tape and also shared those concerns and issues
with it, which he wanted to address tonight.
Councilman Ignasiak had two issues he wanted Councils ' opinions and
direction on; the conducting of HOA or Homeowners Association meetings
under the Council ' s auspice and private meetings with County officials
regarding Edgewater city matters .
Councilman Ignasiak identified it wasn't the idea of concept of HOA
meetings that he was uncomfortable with. He felt the intent when it
first started was good but that the execution had been anywhere from
problematic to bad. He was uncomfortable when a member of Council,
without acknowledging beforehand or consulting with his fellow
Councilmembers schedules a series of meetings with all the Homeowners
Associations and calls them in, sets the agenda and then invites the
Councilmembers to participate . That was not participation of
government or a collective effort and was not the process of the way
it was supposed to work out. He felt the normal established processes
of government were being ignored or disregarded. He attended the
first meeting and was uncomfortable when he got there as he didn't
know what the agenda was going to be until he arrived at the meeting,
where he received a printed agenda. He talked to people who were
there who immediately began raising concerns regarding where the other
Councilmembers were and why they weren' t there. As the meeting was
going on the moderator would talk to the members of the group and
would mention "we" referring to the Council, which he described he was
uncomfortable with. He spoke of a list he received of scheduled,
upcoming Town Hall meetings . He questioned who was driving the
Council ' s meeting agenda as this was not the process they normally
follow. He was uncomfortable because they had not selected as a group
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what they wanted to do. He was glad to see everybody attended the
second Town Hall meeting. He also spoke of taking offense to being
told to sit in a certain location instead of the spot where he was at.
He had an issue with the Mayor being regulated to a minor role as a
participant as it was the duty of the Mayor to preside over any and
all Council meeting affairs and issues, which was his prerogative. If
the Mayor so chooses he may delegate that prerogative to anybody he
wants to. He asked Mayor Thomas if he delegated the meeting to
anybody else and his answer was no. He was uncomfortable because of
the fact that their processes were not being followed and felt very
uncomfortable when someone else takes it upon themselves to lead
meetings under the name of the Council without the sanction or
approval of that Council and to set the agenda. Last week he received
a memo of notes about Councilman Emter' s opinions on the meeting, how
it occurred and where it went. There was reflections through there
and some future ideas on where they should go and asking for their
opinion. He felt this e-mail was highly unethical and should not be
happening. They should not be communicating with one another as he
believed this was a violation or a borderline violation of the
Sunshine Law. Council should not communicate with Council over city
related issues unless it was in the public view and completely
transparent.
Councilman Ignasiak recommended if Council wanted to pursue HOA
meetings that in the future it be a Council related activity and the
prerogative of the Mayor to run that meeting as he felt the Mayor
should be running that meeting. If the Mayor so chooses he may
delegate anyone on the Council to run it and serve as spokesman. He
felt if they did that they would self correct these issues and bring
everything back in line. He spoke of issues raised about duplication
and excessive meetings and further suggested if they schedule another
HOA meeting that they make it one hour before a regular Council
meeting. He felt this would encourage representatives from the HOA' s
to stay and attend the Council meeting.
Councilwoman Power liked the five o' clock idea. She wouldn't even
mind instead of quarterly, maybe every six months . She felt it was a
good faith attempt at communication and agreed it probably should be
something that is presided over by the Mayor.
Councilwoman Bennington was surprised at the turnout as she didn't
expect that many people. Mayor Thomas identified there were 21 people
and six HOA' s represented. Councilwoman Bennington also had a problem
with the process that it came about. She also had no problem with
having meetings at five o'clock and felt they should continue them in
some form.
Mayor Thomas identified it was not how he envisioned. He thought they
were going to go to the homeowners association, not have a meeting in
Council Chambers involving staff. He liked the idea of having it
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either quarterly or every six months, one hour before a regular
Council meeting. He didn't understand why those people didn' t come to
Council meetings but felt maybe they would be encouraged to stay if
they did come so they could see what business Council does take care
of. The biggest issue the other night was a Code Enforcement
violation. He spoke of the public being able to contact staff or the
Council at any time.
Councilman Emter apologized for violating any process as he wasn't
aware of any process .
Councilman Ignasiak felt they were back in line and wouldn't have an
uncomfortable feeling when they go forward with the next one.
Mayor Thomas asked Councilman Emter if he met with County Chair Jason
Davis . Councilman Emter informed him he had. Councilman Ignasiak
pointed out that was going to be his question number two.
Councilman Ignasiak spoke of several meetings ago when Councilman
Emter had made the statement that he had met with local County area
representatives and discussed Edgewater issues . He then spoke of the
next meeting that came up where Councilman Emter met with the County
Chair to discuss and try and resolve Edgewater issues and problems .
He spoke of being alarmed as this was a Council form of government and
they operate as a group and not independently. Their strength is
their collective wisdom when they sit down and discuss issues and
problems together and come to a consensus . He didn't question
Councilman Emter' s legitimacy or authority to go talk to any other
elected official as long as it wasn't directly related to discussions
of the Edgewater Council and business of the Edgewater Council. Their
views and priorities may not be in line with Councilman Emter' s views
and priorities . He felt the differences needed to be aired publicly
and that those people may misinterpret or misunderstand him thinking
he was the voice of the Council coming to them as their collective
thought, which was not happening. Worse yet, someone may have
misinterpreted him as being a power broker, someone who has influence
in the ability to move the Council in a certain direction, which was
not happening. He had no problem with Councilman Emter going to a
County representative on the Council ' s part if they have discussed the
issue openly and arrived at a consensus .
Councilwoman Power felt it wasn't a bad thing to have a relationship
with the County Council . If it wasn't something they had decided as a
Council then it shouldn't be put forward but she felt they had a
general consensus about things and that was where Councilman Emter was
coming from.
Councilwoman Bennington didn't have a problem with any of them talking
to another elected official but when they position themselves as the
conduit for the Council, then she had a problem unless the City
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Manager was there to balance it. Everybody has opinions and views and
it could be interpreted differently coming from different people.
Their power is in the five of them and when one goes off on their own
without the others knowing about it and comes back later and tells
them what they did, that weakens them and puts them in a position
where they don't know what is going on. She felt the Mayor was the
only one that had the right to do that. She had a problem with an
elected official from the City Council going out and representing as
the conduit.
Mayor Thomas expressed concern with a call he received Ms . Denys after
meeting with Councilman Emter and a New Smyrna Beach Commissioner
asking him if that was how the Council felt. She informed him what
the subject matter was and he informed her he had discussed it with
the City Manager and that it would be good. If he was in a situation
where he was unsure he would poll the Council.
Councilman Ignasiak didn't feel it was the intent and identified that
they were looking at the process . If Councilman Emter wanted to meet
with any County official he should do that if he wanted to discuss his
opinions of what was going on in Edgewater. He would be comfortable
with that provided the City Manager went with him as he works for all
of the Council, which he felt was a balance. Councilman Ignasiak
asked City Manager Barlow if he would be comfortable with that at
which time he described for him why he was not comfortable with that.
Councilman Emter informed Councilman Ignasiak he was not comfortable
with his statement in the first place. As a member of Council he has
a right to speak with other individuals having association with the
City. As far as his meetings with Ms . Denys and Jason Davis, there
were two issues they discussed at both of those meetings; the
southeast utilities agreement and the EMS contract. He further
described the discussions that occurred in an effort to move forward
with a resolution for these matters at the County level . If Council
had a joint opinion about a given issue, he had no problem supporting
that decision. If it comes to the point where there is a question or
something that Council has not expressed opinion on, that wasn't
something he would be talking about. He felt they should all be out
there talking about City issues to those who can do something about it
and help improve the City. He spoke of attending all of the County
meetings where the CRA was discussed and had individual conversations
with County Council people regarding that issue. He thought they all
probably had in one respect or another at other casual meetings .
Councilman Emter identified all of his conversations had been
discussed with the City Manager in terms of if it was appropriate and
if he should do it. He felt he was not as hell bent as the
implication implies .
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Mayor Thomas didn't feel he was getting the point. He spoke of
Councilman Emter referring to "I" and "my" instead of "we. " If
Councilman Emter came to the Council wanting to represent them at a
meeting they would allow him to do it but the Council wanted to be
informed as to what was going on. Councilman Emter informed him
absolutely it was a "we" and he wasn't going to do anything to disrupt
that "we. "
Councilwoman Bennington identified there had never been a
Councilperson that she had served with that went off on their own and
reported back to the Council on unofficial meetings of what had
transpired. She felt the issue was hearing about it after the fact.
She suggested he ask at a Council meeting if Council minded him taking
hold and running with one of their goals . She felt the problem was he
was reporting what he had done after the fact.
Councilman Emter asked hypothetically if he had the opportunity to
speak with another elected official what process they would prefer he
use to make that known. Councilwoman Bennington suggested he e-mail
City Clerk Wenzel, not the Council, who in turn would pass the
information on to the rest of the Council . She wasn't sure if that
was within the legal ramifications . City Clerk Wenzel didn' t believe
so. Mayor Thomas wanted him to bring it to them at a public meeting.
There was a discussion regarding how the meetings with Jason Davis and
Deborah Denys came about and why Councilman Emter was the one that met
with them and not the Mayor or one of the other Councilmembers .
Councilwoman Bennington felt it appeared Councilman Emter was
representing himself instead of the Council. Councilman Emter felt
appearances were deceiving and confirmed Council did not need to worry
about it in the future .
Mayor Thomas felt they needed to go back to the topic of the
Homeowners ' Association meetings and asked the Council what they
wanted to do about that.
Councilman Ignasiak thought it was agreed Mayor Thomas would Chair any
future Homeowners ' Association meetings and that they would move the
Homeowners ' Association meetings to one hour before a Council meeting
to avoid duplication. Mayor Thomas asked if it should be every six
months or quarterly. The next one was to be held in January.
Councilman Ignasiak suggested they take the measure of the feelings on
the homeowners at the January meeting and see what issues had popped
up.
Councilwoman Bennington pointed out if any one of the Council wanted
to go to a Homeowners ' Association meeting and talk to them and field
questions they could do that.
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Councilman Ignasiak spoke of attending the Florida Shores Homeowners
Association meetings .
Councilman Mike Ignasiak moved to approve that the Mayor chair any and
all future Homeowners ' Association Meetings and that those meetings be
held one hour before a Council meeting so as to avoid unnecessary
duplication, second by Councilwoman Christine Power.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
Mayor Thomas wanted to stray from the agenda. The City Manager of New
Smyrna Beach was present to speak about a sign.
City Manager Barlow explained the City of New Smyrna Beach had applied
for a sign permit with the City of Edgewater as the property they
wanted to put an entrance sign on was located within the city limits
of Edgewater. He spoke of the relationship between the cities of
Edgewater and New Smyrna Beach being extremely good and identified
this came with favorable recommendation from the City Manager. He
then made a staff presentation by commenting on the property where the
sign was to be located and identified they had already received
permission from DOT for this . He wanted to bring this to Council ' s
attention to make sure they were okay with issuing a permit.
Mayor Thomas spoke of a conversation he had with Mayor Barringer that
morning. City Manager Barlow spoke of the delay in Edgewater getting
an entrance sign being a result of the 10th Street project that was
expected to go to bid the first part of 2014 . He hoped by this time
next year they would be under construction with the 10th Street site
and they would also have a similar sign in New Smyrna on the other
side of the street coming into Edgewater. He didn't want to place a
"Welcome to Edgewater" sign on that nasty parking lot on the west side
of the road only to have it tore up at a later date.
City Manager Pam Brangaccio spoke of it taking two years to get the
permit from DOT. They had been moved from every other location and
this was the one they could finally get. She further expressed her
appreciation for the Fire Marshal services provided by Edgewater' s
Fire Marshal Jeff Lariscy to the City of New Smyrna Beach. She felt
Edgewater and New Smyrna were partners and identified it was nice to
be able to always call on Edgewater.
Mayor Thomas entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington moved to approve New Smyrna putting their
sign on our property, second by Councilman Mike Ignasiak.
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The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
7. CONSENT AGENDA
a. Award of the Continuing Professional Engineering Services
contract to Traffic Engineering Data Solutions, Inc. for
Traffic Engineering Services; and Dredging and Marine
Consultants, LLC for Dredging and Marine Design and
Permitting Services and authorization for the City Manager
to negotiate the contracts
Agenda Request 2:1
b. Approval to reject the bids for Quicklime previously
approved on August 19, 2013 and approval to purchase
Quicklime from Carmeuse Lime & Stone, Inc. for the Water
Treatment Plant
Agenda Request
Councilman Gene Emter moved to approve the Consent Agenda, second by
Councilman Mike Ignasiak.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
8 . PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
a. 2nd Reading - Ordinance No. 2013-0-12 : Rosemary Walker
requesting an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan Future
Land Use Map to include . 32± acres of land located east of
Meadow Lake Drive and south of 28th Street as Low Density
Residential with Conservation Overlay
Agenda Request
City Attorney Wolfe read Ordinance 2013-0-12 into the record.
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Since nothing changed since the first reading, City Manager Barlow did
not make a staff presentation.
Due to there being no Council or public comments, Mayor Thomas opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilman Mike Ignasiak moved to approve Ordinance No. 2013-0-12,
second by Councilwoman Gigi Bennington.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
b. 2nd Reading - Ordinance No. 2013-0-13 : Rosemary Walker
requesting an amendment to the Official Zoning Map to
include . 32± acres of land located east of Meadow Lake
Drive and South of 28th Street as R-2 (Single-Family
Residential)
Agenda Request
City Attorney Wolfe read Ordinance 2013-0-13 into the record.
Since nothing changed since the first reading, City Manager Barlow did
not make a staff presentation.
Due to there being no Council or public comments, Mayor Thomas opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Christine Power moved to approve Ordinance No. 2013-0-13,
second by Councilwoman Gigi Bennington.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
c. 2nd Reading - Ordinance No. 2013-0-15: Ronald Caldwell
requesting an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan Future
Land Use Map to include 10 . 50± acres of land located at 195
Godfrey Road as Low Density Residential
Agenda Request 2=!
City Attorney Wolfe read Ordinance 2013-0-15 into the record.
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Since nothing changed since the first reading, City Manager Barlow did
not make a staff presentation.
Due to there being no Council or public comments, Mayor Thomas opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington moved to approve Ordinance No. 2013-0-15,
second by Councilwoman Christine Power.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
d. 2nd Reading - Ordinance No. 2013-0-16: Ronald Caldwell
requesting an amendment to the Official Zoning Map to
include 10 . 50± acres of land located at 195 Godfrey Road as
R-1 (Single Family Residential)
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Agenda Request 2=
City Attorney Wolfe read Ordinance 2013-0-16 into the record.
Since nothing changed since the first reading, City Manager Barlow did
not make a staff presentation.
Due to there being no Council or public comments, Mayor Thomas opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilman Mike Ignasiak moved to approve Ordinance No. 2013-0-16,
second by Councilman Gene Emter.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
e. 2nd Reading - Ordinance No. 2013-0-17 : Amending the General
Employees ' Pension Plan
Agenda Request 2'
City Attorney Wolfe read Ordinance 2013-0-17 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a brief staff presentation.
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Due to there being no Council or public comments, Mayor Thomas opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington moved to approve Ordinance No. 2013-0-17:
Amending the General Employees ' Pension Plan, second by Councilwoman
Christine Power.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
f. 2nd Reading - Ordinance No. 2013-0-18 : Amending the Police
Officers ' Pension Plan
Agenda Request
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City Attorney Wolfe read Ordinance 2013-0-18 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a brief staff presentation.
Due to there being no Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas opened
and closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilman Gene Emter moved to approve Ordinance No. 2013-0-18:
Amending the Police Officers ' Pension Plan, second by Councilwoman
Christine Power.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
9. BOARD APPOINTMENTS
a. Planning & Zoning Board - Councilwoman Bennington' s
appointment due to the expired term of Pat Card, who is
seeking reappointment
Agenda Request
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington moved to appoint Pat Card, second by
Councilwoman Christine Power.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
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Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
10. OTHER BUSINESS
a. Approval of the Fraternal Order of Police Agreement as
negotiated and presented, effective October 1, 2013 through
September 30, 2014
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Agenda Request
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation by identifying the major
changes made to the agreement.
There was a brief discussion regarding this being the second to the
last year for the step program.
Due to there being no further Council or public comments, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington moved to approve the Fraternal Order of
Police Agreement as negotiated and presented, effective October 1,
2013 through September 30, 2014, second by Councilwoman Christine
Power.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
b. Authorization for the City Manager to issue a Purchase
Order to Sparks Concrete LLC in an amount not to exceed
$72, 870 . 00, under the terms and conditions of the City of
Port Orange Bid #11-17 for the construction of the ADA
compliant sidewalks on West Turgot Avenue and Old County
Road
Agenda Request
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Power asked if the sidewalk would be lit. City Manager
Barlow informed her no, other than what street lights were already
there. They continue to evaluate where they need additional streets
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lights and can't afford street lights . This would also be reimbursed
with Community Development Block Grant dollars .
There was a brief discussion regarding there not being a need for a
budget amendment as the money was already budgeted.
Due to there being no further discussion, Mayor Thomas entertained a
motion.
Councilman Mike Ignasiak moved to authorize the City Manager to issue
a Purchase Order to Sparks Concrete LLC in an amount not to exceed
$72,870. 00, under the terms and conditions so set with Bid #11-17 for
the construction of the ADA compliant sidewalks on West Turgot Avenue
and Old County Road, second by Councilwoman Christine Power.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
c. Acceptance of the EPA Cooperative Agreement for the
Brownfields Assessment Grant and authorization for the City
Manager to inform staff to proceed with the EPA' s procedure
to accept the Agreement
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Agenda Request 2"'
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
City Manager Barlow described for Councilwoman Power what Phase One
and Phase Two were. After they accept the grant they would do an RFQ
and hire a consultant that specialized in brownfields that would guide
that part of the program, which was all paid for with the grant. A
portion of the grant administrator' s salary was reimbursable as well
as travel costs .
Mayor Thomas thought they weren't going to call it a brownfield. City
Manager Barlow spoke of Edgewater establishing an ERA (Edgewater
Redevelopment Area) , which is their brownfield area and described this
was a little different. They don' t have to operate within their
brownfield area. If they find a site outside the brownfield area,
they could still use this grant for it.
Mayor Thomas asked for public comment.
The following citizen spoke:
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Alice Haldemann, 930 Lake Avenue, asked if Mango Tree Lake was still
in the brownfield area. City Manager Barlow spoke of the boundaries
of the ERA being established, which included Mango Tree Lake . They
haven't done any assessments or cleanups in the ERA. It allows them
if someone wants to purchase a piece of property or suspects that they
get some incentives to hire their own consultant to come in and do
that.
Ms . Haldemann mentioned Mayor Thomas having a dream of making the
Mango Tree Lake a fishing park as she was wondering if this would
progress that along. Mayor Thomas pointed out they promised him they
would have it done by the time he retires . He felt a walking trail
there would be so nice.
Ms . Haldemann was wondering if they didn't find contamination if that
would mean they would have to look elsewhere for help. City Manager
Barlow informed her the money was only for cleanup.
Due to there being no further Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Christine Power moved to approve the acceptance of the
EPA Cooperative Agreement for the Brownfields Assessment Grant and
authorization for the City Manager to inform staff to proceed with the
EPA's procedure to accept the Agreement, second by Councilman Gene
Emter.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
d. Authorization for the Mayor to execute the Memorandum of
Agreement with the cities of New Smyrna Beach and Oak Hill,
establishing the Southeast Volusia Corridor Improvement
Coalition
Agenda Request
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Ignasiak questioned how the source of funding was going to
be developed. City Manager Barlow informed him it was reimbursement
from EPA. The memo of agreement just establishes the partnership for
the $600, 000 grant they just approved. He further commented on a six
person advisory committee being established.
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Due to there being no further Council or public comment, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington moved to authorize the Mayor to execute
the Memorandum of Agreement with the cities of New Smyrna Beach and
Oak Hill, establishing the Southeast Volusia Corridor Improvement
Coalition, second by Councilman Gene Emter.
The MOTION APPROVED 5 - 0.
Yes Mayor Michael Thomas, Councilwoman Christine Power,
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington, Councilman Mike Ignasiak,
Councilman Gene Emter
11. OFFICER REPORTS
a. City Clerk
Councilwoman Bennington questioned it being time to start the process
for the City Clerk and City Manager evaluations . City Manager Barlow
took responsibility for this not occurring yet. They had been issued
today for him and City Clerk Wenzel to do their goals . The Council
would have them before the November meeting. He further described the
process for Councilwoman Bennington.
Councilman Emter questioned when they had to have them turned in.
City Manager Barlow explained they would be turned back into Personnel
Director Donna Looney before the agenda cutoff for the December
meeting and they would be on the December agenda for approval .
There was further discussion regarding the process being a little
longer last year because of the process being so new. City Clerk
Wenzel identified the agenda cutoff for the December meeting was the
Tuesday or Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
City Clerk Wenzel informed Council they were in the process of getting
an agenda management program which would streamline staff' s process
and reduce paper. They will be able to do their agenda items
electronically and it will go to the different people that have to
approve it before it goes to her. Once it was implemented, she would
start with herself with the Council agenda and then work on getting
all of the boards on the same program.
Councilman Emter asked when she anticipated this would be received.
City Clerk Wenzel wasn't sure what was involved with the IT portion.
City Manager Barlow spoke of being able to make a commitment after
Council approved the budget but before October 1st which brought a
significant savings for the first year. The agreement had been
signed; they were working on getting everything set up and then there
was some training involved. He guessed around the first of the year.
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He further described that Council wouldn't necessarily notice much
change on their end. He then spoke of what happens behind the scenes
now and the effort to go more paperless . It would be more efficient
and more green.
There was a brief discussion regarding the security of it and the
access being limited.
b. City Attorney
City Attorney Wolfe had nothing at this time.
c. City Manager
City Manager Barlow informed Council he would be out of town starting
this Thursday, October 9th through Sunday, October 20th. In his
absence, Finance Director John McKinney would be Acting City Manager.
City Manager Barlow informed Council that on the week of November
28th, he, John McKinney and Janet Shira would be attending the Florida
Redevelopment Conference in Tampa.
12. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Mike Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, asked what the reason was for a
Councilmember going to the Homeowners Association for a meeting when
the HOA has a President and Board of Directors and asked why they
don't come to the Council meetings with the problems instead of the
Council going there.
Councilwoman Bennington informed him they hadn't gone to any yet.
Sometimes HOA' s have guest speakers and City Manager Barlow was a
guest speaker recently and they can ask the Council to be guest
speakers . Mr. Visconti felt they could come to the Council meetings
if they had any problems .
Alice Haldemann, 930 Lake Avenue, wished the meetings would be called
Town Hall meetings . She came to the meeting and she keeps hearing it
is for homeowners associations and by the way, any citizen can come.
She felt that business should be conducted at a regular Council
meeting and she was puzzled about why the homeowners associations were
getting special treatment. She wished they would come and felt maybe
the compromise was having the meeting an hour before a regular meeting
every six months .
Councilman Emter identified it was originally set up as an informal
effort to meet with representatives of the community. HOA' s represent
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a large number of citizens and the goal was to informally try and
communicate directly with them without going through standing at a
podium, in the spotlight, with a three-minute time limit. It was an
effort to establish dialog with various segments of the community.
HOA' s were merely there as a convenient representation of a multitude .
It was not and could not exclude anybody. Ms . Haldemann spoke of
making it more comfortable for the average citizen to feel more
welcome.
Councilwoman Power felt the numbers spoke for themselves since there
were 10 people there tonight besides the Boy Scouts but at the Town
Hall meeting there were 21. She felt informal helped with the
numbers .
Agnes Witter, 223 Flagler Avenue, was at the first Town Hall meeting
and there were 24 people there. She felt it attracts people because
they know it is going to be informal and makes them feel comfortable.
She also felt the earlier daytime meeting seemed like it was
attractive.
Don Garner, 2703 Tamarind Drive, spoke about the HOA meetings . He
felt it was a great setup that needed to be continued. He felt the
podium was intimidating.
Mr. Garner referred to the motion that was agreed upon with all of the
Councilmembers as to someone going out and speaking to someone else
without notifying. He hoped they weren't infringing upon that
person' s right in the United States. He asked what the City
Attorney' s thoughts were on that.
City Attorney Wolfe explained it was his understanding the Council did
not limit any one Councilperson from speaking to whoever they wanted
so he didn't feel it was an issue.
NoraJane Gillespie, 2263 Candlewood, New Smyrna Beach, spoke of New
Smyrna having a height restriction in the historic district of 60 ' ,
which caused a large commotion. She serves on the Historical
Preservation Board and they unanimously turned down a third story for
an AFL to house 96 handicap senior citizens . They capped it and
approved two-stories and parking. They sent it through to the City
Commission and they turned them over and said they were going to allow
it. It would sit on the entrance to the North Causeway. It goes from
Faulkner to Hillshire on Washington and was by a previous elected
official . She asked the Council not to raise their height.
Councilwoman Bennington informed Ms . Gillespie the height limitation
was east of U. S . #1 . Ms . Gillespie knew what the restrictions were on
it but identified industrial was allowed.
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Chuck Martin, 205 Cherrywood Lane, spoke to the people in the audience
and pointed out that the Council works for them. If they don't like
the way they are doing something, they can vote them out.
Councilwoman Power informed him or run yourself.
Mr. Martin stated Mike Thomas was there because they wanted him here
because he wants to keep Edgewater the way it is .
Mr. Martin had a conversation with Mr. Visconti who was in the
audience.
Mr. Martin felt the Council was doing a great job. He loves the City
the way it is and was glad to be here.
Nick Marresca stated the one problem he had with the Code Enforcement
deal was he had a warning before this two months ago and he told the
guy about the other issues around the neighborhood and nothing
happened to them. He didn't know how he was getting picked out
because somebody complained. He felt everybody should be treated
fairly.
Mr. Marresca pointed out there used to be a back entrance to Rotary
Park that was now chained off. He wasn't sure if he could park there.
City Manager Barlow informed him that was public property that was
intended to be a park and once they open that can they have to offer
it to everyone else to be able to store their extra vehicles,
trailers, etc. there . He felt Code did a very good job and again
pointed out this was the first complaint he has had. Based on Mr.
Marresca' s testimony he felt it almost sounded like his activities had
outgrown the neighborhood. He only had a couple more months on his
lease and it sounded like he may be trying to move to another area
that accommodated those type of activities that had more real estate
than he had.
Mayor Thomas asked if there was somebody Mr. Marresca could turn his
photographs into tonight. City Manager Barlow informed him he could
give them to the Fire Chief who was responsible for Code Enforcement.
He assured Council this was not selective and they weren't just
picking on the neighborhood and they would find out where the other
cases were in the pipeline. He didn' t know if they had been started
but was sure if they weren't that they would be soon.
Councilwoman Bennington suggested putting one of the Code Enforcement
At Work signs up. City Manager Barlow spoke about picking some
neighborhoods . They can site one person within a neighborhood and
they go out and find ten violations and then each of those find ten
more violations . He asked Mr. Marresca to turn the photos over to the
Fire Chief and they would make sure everyone in his neighborhood would
be treated as fairly as he had been.
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13. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Mayor Thomas adjourned the
meeting at 8 : 10 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer, CMC
Attest: APPROVED:
City of Edgewater, Florida
Bonnie Wenzel, City Clerk Michael L. Thomas, Mayor
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