03-01-1995
.....
....",
CITY OF EDGEWATER LIBRARY BOARD
MARCH 1, 1995 MEETING
MINUTES
Call to Order
Chairman Jean Haughwout called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m. in the Edgewater
Library.
Roll Call
Present were members: Jean Haughwout, Fran Byrne, Lauretta Shafer, Mary Rice, and
Lilian Bond-Nelson. Jan Dudley had called in ill and Sue Shaw was absent. Also
present was Gayle Harmon, Librarian, and Mike Knievel, County Library Director.
Approval of the Minutes
January 4. 1995. reQular meetinQ
Mrs. Haughwout requested any corrections or additions. Being none, she stated
the minutes were approved as read.
Recognized in the audience were Robert Clinton and Dorothy Perkins.
Report of the Librarian
Mrs. Harmon distributed and briefly reviewed the October-December quarterly
report, Volusia County quarterly circulation statistics, and March Happenings.
Mrs. Harmon stated building repairs discussed at the last meeting were completed
by the City, and the County installed a work stat ion in the back room and
refinished the big oak desk from the old library and it's in the childrens room.
Mrs. Harmon reviewed the problem with children riding bikes at the retention pond
and jumping over and going through the parking lot at high speed. She said Parks
and Recreation put down parking blocks to stop jumping into the parking lot but
they still meet there, and there will be signs installed within the next two
weeks prohibiting it.
Mrs. Harmon stated the News Journal computer information center has been received
and is used, but not heavily.
COlll1lunications
There were no communications brought up at this meeting.
Unfinished Business
County Library Director' s status report on Southeast Volusia Reqional Library and
Library Lease Aqreement with City of Edqewater
Mike Knievel, County Library Director, explained the status of the Southeast
Regional Library negotiations with the City of New Smyrna Beach for the Live Oak
site. He noted the site is owned by the City of New Smyrna Beach, who purchased
it from the School District, and New Smyrna Beach is asking the County for costs
it incurred to acquire the property and bring it into compliance with pollution
control and other costs. He explained there are two proposals, one a straight
cash exchange between the County and the City, or a joint participation agreement
proposed by Frank Roberts regarding the concern of New Smyrna Beach and Parks and
Recreation for lost ballfields at the Live Oak site.
~
~
Unfinished Business
County Library Director's status report on Southeast Volusia Reoional Library and
Library Lease Aoreement with City of Edoewater (Continued)
Mr. Knievel said a solution may be to relocate fields and other recreation to the
Middle School and improve that site. He noted the school is agreeable, the City
thinks it could be a good deal, and the County isn1t philosophically opposed to
it but questions the value of a joint participation agreement, so the City will
itemize the value. He said Alice (Haldeman) has started pre-processing the State
grant application in hopes this will be resolved by the May 1st deadline.
Mrs. Haughwout asked who would move the process along. Mr. Knievel replied New
Smyrna Beach has been moving it along and it will not slip through fingers
because of a County delay. Mrs. Haughwout agreed the children need activities
and a playing field. Mr. Knievel read a newspaper article provided by Robert
Clinton that Parks and Recreation objected to the loss of the ballfields, but
when the City, County, and School suggested a solution to improve fields, Parks
and Recreation unanimously endorsed it. He noted he doesn't know how much of an
issue the cost will be.
Mrs. Harmon asked if it1s a guaranteed grant and Mr. Knievel replied no, but
they've passed a lot of hurdles and Volusia County has done very well in the past
with State grants. He explained State rules and regulations when a municipality
receives a grant, they lose points the next time around as the State wants to
spread the money around. He pointed out Port Orange and Deltona grants are open
so points will be deducted from the competitive application process.
Robert Clinton asked the status of the parking lot. Mr. Knievel replied it
involves in part the lease agreement with the City. He said he talked with
George McMahon and to the County Attorney today to see if there's any progress
after two or three times of trying to negotiate unresolved issues. He said a
letter went to Mr. McMahon last March 18th and Mr. McMahon referenced his last
February letter with the City1s perceived unresolved issues that are holding
them back from signing the proposed lease agreement. He noted those issues are:
#3 - City requests participation in location of any regional or city library, and
County maintains that1s not a lease issue, so it's unresolved; #7 - City wants
County to agree to expand the parking lot within one year of agreement date and,
if not, City wants to retain right to complete expanded parking lot and collect
costs from County. He said County response was no; #8 - County would agree to
correct any roofing or air conditioning problems when notified by City, and
County has consistently said its maintenance schedule frequently is more rigorous
than municipal schedules and is defensible, and is insisting on it for lease
agreements, or when they acquire property, rather than city maintenance
schedules; #9 - City requests County involve Library Board for location of
Southeast Regional Library, and that's becoming moot, plus the County Attorney
said that's not a lease issue either.
Mrs. Haughwout asked how these issues could be resolved. Mr. Knievel replied
there were conversations with George McMahon, the Assistant County Manager, and
parties involved, and George McMahon's position is that this is where the lease
negotiation stands and until there1s movement in some direction, this will sit
in limbo. Mrs. Harmon stated participation in the task force answers two of those
issues.
-2- Library Board Meeting Minutes
March 1, 1995
....
....,
Unfinished Business
County Library Director's status report on Southeast Volusia Reoional Library and
Library Lease Aoreement with City of Edoewater (Continued)
Mrs. Byrne stated she spoke to Mr. Knievel about Edgewater parking to be in 1998
and recommended this Board talk with the City Council because we need parking.
Mr. Knievel pointed out lssues #3, #7, #8, and #9 are unresolved and the County
Attorney and County management do not feel #3 and #9 are lease issues.
Mrs. Haughwout requested input on #3 about regional libraries. Mr. Knievel
stated that's not a lease issue. Mrs. Harmon stated that was when there were
fears about losing the library. It was agreed it's no longer an issue.
Mrs. Rice asked about the present library in New Smyrna Beach. Mr. Knievel
replied it's City owned and he assumes the City will process it in their own way.
Mrs. Haughwout requested input on #7, expanding the parking lot within one year
of date, etc. Mr. Knievel noted the County response was they cannot agree to a
one year time line or the City's right to expand at County's cost.
Mr. Clinton asked about the 1998 time frame. Mr. Knievel explained it's a
proposed long range plan prepared by library staff and County Library Board as
a recommendation for County Council, but it's not firm. He said recommendation
is by 1998 they will address the issue of expanding the Edgewater parking lot and
they want to give County Council, County management and Office of Management and
Budget some idea of cost so they can plan for it in the future and it can be
absorbed in County funding. He said library stakeholders want the parking lot
expanded but the County cannot agree to the one year time line or the City's
right to dictate expansion at County cost. He said the County doesn't see this
as a lease issue. He pointed out it's not in any other documents with any other
library, including regional and community libraries. Mrs. Haughwout asked how
they can get it done before 1998 if it's not in a lease and Mr. Knievel didn't
know. Mrs. Harmon said if the City knows there's a commitment made, it may be
satisfactory because they possibly didn't see a parking lot in the horizon and
this was their way of pressing it. Mr. Knievel stated a pre-conditioned lease
makes negotiations more complex and he recommended they process the parking lot
issue outside the lease agreement. Mrs. Byrne suggested we bring up that the
long range project of the County is 1998 and this Board prefers action be taken
to hasten the effort.
Mrs. Haughwout asked about the roof and air conditioning. Mrs. Harmon explained
the City replaced one air conditioning unit but there are two more the same age
and condition, but if the County has the lease and responsibility for repairs,
why does the City have anything to do with it? Mr. Knievel replied this came
up with the Port Orange lease on property and the County could not agree to a
ma intenance schedu le different from its own as theirs protects the owners'
interest and the capital improvements will be maintained at a County standard.
Mrs. Haughwout suggested writing to the City Council to ask them to consider #3,
#7, #8, and #9 as outstanding issues. She said #3 was a problem before because
of concern we were going to lose our library but we don't feel that now. She
said #9 would not be an issue any more and would be eliminated. She questioned
on #8, roofing and air conditioning, why the City is responsible if the County
is the landlord.
Library Board Meeting Minutes
-3- March 1, 1995
'-"
.....,
Unfinished Business
County Library Director's status report on Southeast Volusia Reqional Library and
Library Lease Aqreement with City of Edqewater (Continued)
Mrs. Haughwout stated the only issue is #7, expanding the parking lot. Mrs. Rice
suggested they speed it up before 1998. Mr. Knievel expressed confidence if
resources were available and there's a concerted effort to resolve differences
with resources of all parties, it might be a win-win situation, and they could
have a shared resolution or partnership on the parking issues.
Mrs. Haughwout suggested they ask Council if it could be worked outside the lease
situation and to discuss it with the Library Board if we can offer assistance or
any way we can expedite it to resolve the lease.
Mrs. Shafer moved to write a letter to the City Council about the parking and
getting the lease situation resolved. Mr. Knievel asked if expansion of the
parking lot requires acquiring additional land. Mrs. Harmon explained plans were
submitted in the past, one involving re-striping, but with ADA requirements, that
would not be valid. She noted another plan was parking along the East side of
the building, but that is expansion area according to the original building
design, and it could include a mezzanine. There was discussion regarding the
cost for a parking lot and later needing it for expansion. Parking on top of
paving stones that let water go through was discussed. Mr. Knievel asked if the
plans were reviewed by the City for code and traffic regulations. Mrs. Harmon
replied plans would have to be redone because it was before ADA. Mr. Knievel
noted Federal ADA supersedes any County or City, but he's concerned with the
County and City and DOT. Mrs. Harmon noted one plan didn't offer that many more
spaces and a new plan needs to be made. Mrs. Byrne seconded the motion. Motion
CARRIED unanimously.
Mr. Knievel left the meeting at this time, 4:25 p.m.
New Business
Election of Officers
Mrs. Rice nominated Jean Haughwout for Chairman. Mrs. Byrne seconded the
nomination. Mrs. Byrne then moved the nominations close. Mrs. Shafer seconded
the motion. Mrs. Byrne moved the officers remain as is for the upcoming year.
Mrs. Rice seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED unanimously.
Plans for Volunteer Appreciation Luncheon - date, menu, etc.
Mrs. Haughwout suggested April 18 or April 25 for the date and after discussion,
it was agreed to hold the luncheon on April 25 at 12:30 p.m. Menu was agreed
upon. Mrs. Byrne wi 11 be in charge of decorations and Mrs. Rice offered
magnolias, if blooming at that time. Mrs. Harmon will handle invitations and
provide coffee. Mrs. Haughwout will provide iced tea. Ms. Shaw will be asked
to provide rolls. Mrs. Byrne stated Friends agreed to pay for it up front and
then be reimbursed by the County. She asked if Winn-Dixie or Publix will donate
for a City purpose. Mrs. Harmon explained they have a budget each year and you
have to write ahead and they give you a gift certificate. Mrs. Harmon suggested
Mrs. Byrne work closely with Marilou Spencer for the table set up and
decorations.
Library Board Meeting Minutes
-4- March 1, 1995
'-"
..",
Miscellaneous
Mrs. Haughwout stated Library Day is March 21 and 22 and Mary Rice is going for
the Board and Fran Byrne is going for the Friends.
Mrs. Haughwout stated the Florida Conference is at Fort Lauderdale May 11 and 12.
Mrs. Bond-Nelson asked why the County leases the library and if the other one was
leased. Mrs. Harmon explained the City's responsible for the building and the
County's responsible for running the library so building maintenance, insurance
costs, etc. are done by the City, and if the County leased from the City, the
County would be fully responsible. She noted some buildings are County owned,
some are City owned, and some by associations, and it makes it difficult to have
continuity on certain aspects. Mrs. Bond-Nelson asked why the County wants it
and Mrs. Harmon replied they feel it would be fully a County library and it would
be more efficient. Mrs. Harmon referred to an instance with ants in the walls
and determining if that was a City or County responsibility.
Mrs. Byrne asked about the funds where Ormond Beach was involved. Mrs. Harmon
replied she'll have to research that.
Mrs. Byrne asked if the taxes everyone pays go to the City or County. Mrs.
Harmon replied part of the City taxes go to maintenance of the building and
grounds and the County tax is for running the library and staffing, and a special
construction tax goes to the County for regional libraries and building
facilities, and that's where the parking money would come from.
Ad.iournment
Mrs. Bond-Nelson moved to adjourn. Mrs. Rice seconded the motion. Meeting was
adjourned at 4:50 p.m.
Submitted by:
Lura Sue Koser
Recording Secretary
Library Board Meeting Minutes
-5- March 1, 1995