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CITY OF EDGEWATER
BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE
SPECIAL MEETING
JANUARY 21, 1992
7:00 P.M.
CITY HALL CONFERENCE ROOM
t1INUTE~
ROLL CALL/CALL TO ORDER:
The Chairman, Felicia Ver Way, called the special meeting of the
Beautification Committee to order at 7:00 p.m. In the City Hall
Confelence Room.
Membels plesent were:
Palermo, Betty Rossman,
Jack Cordel, Mark
Kruckmeyer.
Felicia Ve, Way, Richard Roberts, Tanina
and Linda Sullivan. Also present v,Jere
Miller, and Recording SecretalY, Lisa
Plan~B-eview for Beautifica.t.ion Gl-ant of (.'Iedian Strips
Chailman Ver Way stated the reason fOI the meeting was to look at
the new blue prints that Jack had dlawn up.
Chairman Vpr Way stated the last time they looked at the blue
plints they were under the implession that nothing could be
altered. She asked why the Committee wasn't informed because
maybe they could have had input on this. She stated people are
calling them and they don't know anything.
Mr. Calder stated the median strips involved were the two south
and one nOlth. That is what was showing on the conceptual plan
of the plints. After looking at the detailed prints they welE
showing the three south. He stated the one north and the two
south is what was discussed and that is what he is redrawing.
Chairman Ver Way asked if they are going to change plants around.
Mr. Corder stated yes but that isn't finalized yet. He stated
last week he spoke to someone and he was invited to New Smyrna's
Tree Committee meeting because they wele doing a presentation on
their CRA grant that they are applying for.
Chairman Ver Way stated when she went to the Beautification
meetings with the Chamber, they had asked if there was some way
that New Smyrna and Edgewater could get together to correspond
our medians. She stated they couldn't do that because they had
already approved some plans. She asked if that was correct.
Mr. Corder stated this is all that can be sent in herause
money that is available. His conception was that coming
of 442 going north was one of the areas that needed to be
at because that is the main traffic area.
of the
in off
lookerj
Mr. Corder stated the grant paperwork
has some prices coming in to include
is not completed.
on the grant.
He still
Ms_ Sullivan asked what the deadline is on the grant.
stated February 1st.
r-1r. Corder
Ms. Rossman asked how much 15 the grant that IS being applied
for. Mr. Corder stated that has not been determined yet until
they get the price on everything they want.
Mr. Corder stated an irrigation system is included this time. He
stated in sixteen to twenty months they will be able to switch to
gray water instead of using City water.
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Ms. Sullivan asked Mr. Corder if he redrew the plans the
Committee looked at before. He stated basically. He stated this
is an overall of the three medians that are being talked about.
Mr. Corder explained the drawings he presented. He stated he
took five areas in each median to put plants in.
Mr. Corder stated according to D.o.T. you need to maintain at
least a minimum of 4' away from the highway pavement edge. He
stated D.o.T. has height restrictions of no greater than 3'.
When you are getting into a high viewing area, you have a major
traffic area which IS a major viewing problem. You are
eliminating any tree. Another aspect is they will not allow
anything bigger than a 4" in diameter. He stated when they get
into the overall master plan which is going to be the rest of the
medians, then we might be able to look at trees of some sort.
Chairman Ver Way stated it is really kind of a two shade type of
thing because we are applying for Tree City ll.S.A. and we have no
where to plant any trees.
l"ls.
not
Sullivan
trimmed.
stated the
Mr. Corder
tree by
stated he
the north City
knev,! that.
limits
is
still
Chairman Ver Way asked if that
too. Mr. Corder stated South
were e:< i st i n(].
treE" ~'Jould
DC1'/tona and
need to be cut down
Port Orange's trees
Mr. Corder stated when he talked to the man at
they turned dOltJn an application that i.-Jas 2"
they consider the 4' line.
D.O. T .
too far
last yeC'l.r
over- l",ha t
Chairman Ver Way stated South Daytona and Port
as many turnoffs as we do which is why we have
Orange don't have
more restrictions.
Ms. Palermo asked if trees could be ptJt between a sidewC'l.lk and a
street. Mr. Corder stated the sidewalk on U.S.#l only lasts
until Ocean Avenue and then it stops. He stated it might be
possible but you are only talking aboLlt a 3' or 4' wide area and
that might fall under the 4' allotment D.O.T. is talking about.
Chairman Ver Way asked what type of plants did Mr. Corder come up
with. Mr. Corder stated native plants and wildflowers are two
big things on D.D.T. 's list in order to get points. He stated a
man made a comment to him whether plants are native or not when
you put it there as a group to take care of it is going to create
maintenance.
Mr. Corder stated they had talked ahout lantana as a good ground
cov'er. [-is. Sullivan asked about d,~y lilies. 11r. Corder stateci
that is another possibility. He stated the median directly south
is 543' long. The other one to the south is approximately 5~6'
long. These medians range anywhere from 24' to 30' wide. He
stated another criteria from D.G.T. IS unique designs. He stated
he is trying to keep a low mC'l.intenanre cost. He stated a large
patch of lantana would be good and it comes in a lavender color.
Another large patch of a ground co\/er- is St. Johnc:, Wort ~'Jhich is
a yellow cover. Between these patches would be grass because of
the length. Ms. Palermo stated a periwinkle is a nice plant that
withstands the winter and multiplies.
f1s. ~iullivan asked if
Mr. Corder stated he
"'JOuld like to put
sunflower-.
they are going ",.'ith flowers and not shr-uhs.
was trying to find color. He stC'l.ted he
in dwarf azaleas surrounded by the beach
Ms. Sullivan stated
continuous flower.
i~ blooming.
~.he ltJas think inr] ahout the
She stated when one plant
aspect of keeping
IS gone another one
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Mr. Roberts stated the evergreen giant which also takes a lot of
dryness and gets a lavender flower to it is a grass. He stated
the azaleas will split. He stated you always have your indian
hawthorne which will take the cold. He stated they get a white
and pink flower.
Chairman Ver Way stated a few months ago New Smyrna and Edgewater
were going to get together but at the very last minute New Smyrna
changed their mind.
Ms. Palermo stated New Smyrna should do their thing and we should
do ours.
Mr. Corder s ta tedrle doesn't have enough marlflovJer to handle a
situation of having 2,000 annuals planted in the medians.
Chairman Ver Way stated she doesn't understand how they expect
the small force Mr. Corder has to be able to take care of all of
this stuff regardless of what is there.
Mr. Corder stated this is being discussed right now. He stated
somewhere down the road he would like to get additional manpower
and a horticulturist for all aspects of the City.
Ms. Palermo asked if he could use volunteers to help with this
type of maintenance. He stated he needed to talk to the City
Manager and City Attorney on liability aspects. He stated they
will be looking for volunteers when the master plan is developed
an the Adopt-a-Highway program.
Chairman Ver Way stated the older boy scouts and girl scouts are
always looking to help in the community.
Ms. Sullivan asked if Burger King adopted
starts down here at the north of town.
there is a sign right across from Burger
!,',jhere i tstop<:c,.
U.S.#l. Sh~--'
Cha i rman \/pr
f::: i ng lrJh i c h
stated it
~,jay stated
is proharJ 1 y
Chairman Ve, Way asked if the
the Adopt-a-Highway program and
Corder stated ves.
Committee is going to work
the Adopt-a-Tree program.
with
t'll.
t'ls. Rossman
the tOlrJn is
beautiful.
stated when .'JE'
really going to
She stated let's
get this concrete and get it
take sha~e. It is gOIng
get the grants in.
set up
to tJp
Ms. Sullivan stated if
people that these three
you get phone cal Is, make sure to tell
medians are just the start.
Chairman Ver Way stated maybe
businesses and maybe they will
eventually we can contact some
donate flowers or adopt a median.
Mr. Roberts asked if Mr.
Mr. Corder stated the old
he is hopefully going
irrigation system.
Corder had a cost figure for m~tprials.
set didn't have irrigation. He stated
to get an estimate tomorrow on an
Ms. Rossman stated she met the City Manager
want to work with beautification which IS
great things for Edgewater.
arId he
great.
real l'r" does
He :Js doing
1"lr. Corder stated the scar)1 part ie" v,lith trH? amount of' mee-lian
strips that are within the median strips and due to the size of
them, if we do not keep it native and to a minimal the cost could
go astronomical.
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Chairman Ver Way stated once we get this underway
project starb:::.d and the people see some results it 1S
change the whole community's mind and people are going
working together to beautify the City.
and this
going to
to <=,ta:- t
1'-'fr. COl-der stated ;;;ome of the prohlems he runs into are the
medians all have catch basins and they have drainage problems and
we can't fill those in.
Mr. Corder stated one cost factor the City
mulch because the City has their OItJn rmllch
wi 11 be
machine.
saving
on
is
The Committee
med i ar,s.
then discussed
different flowers to use for the
Chairman Ver Way stated they still have the medians going from
U.S. #1 to the River on Indian River Boulevard. tvlr. Corder
stated he's not too sure that is in our maintenance agreement
~"lith the state. HE' ""tated if that is Ollrs It.le can put snme t.rees
in. Chairman Ver Wav st.ated at the Arbor Day thing t.hey had at
the park, NoraJane came up to her and said that the Committee
could take over that strip of land and do what they want with it.
The Committee told Mr. Corder the Christmas trees down Indian
River Boulevard were gorgeous. The citizens really appreciated
it. Chairman Vpr Way stated the Christmas parade was fahulolls.
She stated it is going to Ollt do Smyrna1s and ppoflle are going to
start coming to this one.
Chairman Ver IrJay stated if you
don't hesitate to ask.
need the
Committee for anything,
Ms. Rossman asked if it would help if they went
McMahon. Mr. Corder stated he doesn't think
point.
in to talk to Mr.
so, not at this
Chairman Ver Way stated she went to the Arbor Day in Daytona.
She brought back a program as an e;.<amf/)p because the'll ~"Ji 11 have
to do one. She stated the Chamber of COl1lmerCe Beautification
Committep wants to be invited to Edgewater's Arbor Day. She
stated she spoke to Mr. Johnson and he prefers Af/ril 24th. She
stated they would have to go with National Arbor Day on Friday 10
the afternoon to get these kids together.
Chairman Ver Way asked the Committee if they wantecl to have this
in the morning or the afternoon. 1'1",.. Sullivan stated they shOltld
go morning because the kids are all there. Chairman Vpr Way
asked how the kids are goin,;) to get there. 1-ls. Sul1iv'an stated
by hus.
Mr. Corder stated he doesn't know if they are going to be able to
pull the high school band. He stated he had a problem getting
the band for the Christmas parade.
Chairman Ver Way stated the Committee IS going to be celehrating
two functions, Tree City U.S.A. and Arbor Day. She stated at
the Daytona celehration they were handing out pencils. Ms.
Palermo asked what we could do as an alternative. Ms. Rossman
;:;:,tated she thinks the penci Is are a good idea.
Chairman Ver Way
Daytona donated a
stated that would
stated the Parks
tree for the Arbor
not be a problem.
and Recreation Deflartment in
Day ceremon,/. Mr. Corder
Chairman Ver Way stated at Indian River Schoo] there are trees
in the front hut none in the back where the children play. Mr.
Corder stated he would talk to Mike Crows down there because that
<;"chool ~'Jould tie a good foral fioint for Arbor Day.
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Mr. Corder stated they could look at planting more trees
the Fire Statlon.
down at
Ms. Sullivan asked jf
City Parks and the price
would get them a list.
they could hi'lve a
of those trees.
li<;=,t
r-lr .
of trees for the
Corner stated he
Mr. Corder stated if you know
local that will have any influence
a letter stating they support our
of any politicians other than
on <;=,uch a th ing, ask them for
pro~1,am fo, beautification.
Chai,man Ver Wav asked if
stated the more the merrIer.
one letter
is enough.
l''lr. Corne,
ADJOURNMENT
ThPI-e be i n<] nn fur thpr bus i ness to
motion to aOJourn, seconned by
adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
d i SCL1SS, !1s.
!"ls. Sullivan.
Rossman madp a
The meeting
r"linutes ~,ubmitted hy:
Lisa f<::ruckme'/er
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January 21, 1992