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CITY OF EDGEWATER
BEAUTIFICATION , TREE COMMITTEE
MAY 12, 1998
7:00 P.M.
CITY HALL CONFERENCE ROOM
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chairman visconti called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00
p.m. in the City Hall Conference Room.
Members present were: Michael Visconti, Michael Tanksley, Patrick
Conway and Rose Hoffman. Eleanor German was not present. Also
present were Parks and Recreation Director Jack Corder and
Recording Secretary Lisa Kruckmeyer.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Re9ular Meetin9 of March 10, 1998
Mr. Tanksley made a motion to approve the March 10, 1998 minutes,
second by Ms. Hoffman. The motion CARRIED 4-0.
OLD BUSINESS
Master Plan
North & South Entrance of City
Mr. Corder informed the Committee City Manager Grace would like
to put their plans for the first two medians on the north end of
u.S. #1 on the June 1st agenda to go before Council.
Mr. Corder presented the Committee with drawings of the medians
and asked them to come up with what kind of trees and plants they
would like to see put in the medians.
Mr. Corder stated city Manager Grace is suggesting planting plans
and mulching the whole island. Mr. Corder feels they need to
place the sign in the first median.
There was a brief discussion regarding the width of the medians.
The Committee went on to discuss the Welcome to Edgewater sign.
Mr. Corder informed the Committee they are going to try and get
money from the Chamber of Commerce to help pay for the signs.
The cost estimate, given by Ridner Signs, sandblasted is $765.00.
There was discussion regarding changing the font on the sign by
making Edgewater larger than the other words or putting Edgewater
in a script font. The Committee went on to discuss colors for
the signs.
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The Committee spoke about the sign being cheaper if they order
two and if the Chamber is going to pay for the signs, they should
go ahead and order two signs.
Mr. Tanksley asked about illuminating the sign at night. Mr.
Corder stated he has been trying to find solar spotlights.
Mr. Corder discussed the cost to put electric into the median.
He informed the Committee they would be using potable water in
the median because of not being able to get the reclaimed water
to the north end of the city. To get water to the north end, it
will cost a little over $5,000 which includes the jack and bore,
impact fees and connection fees.
There was a brief discussion regarding Mr. Corder having to pay
impact fees and connection fees because of a bond issue.
Mr. Conway asked if they could get grant money for this. Mr.
Corder informed him grant money limits what the City can do. He
informed the Committee it would take over a year and a half
before the grant would even be approved because of the grant
applications being due by next February.
Mr. Conway feels $5,000 is a lot of money to get the water to the
north end. Mr. Corder further elaborated on what is included in
the cost.
Mr. visconti spoke about putting in electrical and digging a
well. Mr. Corder informed him the Department of Transportation
won't allow it.
Mr. Tanksley asked about using the plant recommended for grants
and getting the money after the fact. Mr. Corder informed him
they would not be able to do that.
Mr. visconti asked how the medians were beautified with no water
on Beville Road in South Daytona. Mr. Corder stated it sounds
like they went with total xeriscape.
Mr. Corder spoke about New Smyrna Beach spending over $300,000 on
the beautification on u.S. #1 which consisted of grant money and
Community Redevelopment Agency money. He spoke about the
beautification done on the South Causeway and businesses donating
money to replace plants that were required by grants.
Mr. Conway again spoke about the $5,000 it costs to get water to
the medians. Mr. Corder further spoke about the cost to jack and
bore and a company needed to be DOT certified to jack and bore
under the highway.
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Ms. Hoffman asked about running the electric the same time the
water is being put in. Mr. Corder explained if they don't want
to put in electric at that time, they can put conduit in there so
electric could be put in at a later date.
Mr. Visconti asked Mr. Corder if he thinks this is ever going to
happen. Mr. Corder stated eventually, yes.
There was some discussion regarding a study being done on the
U.s. #1 corridor.
The Committee discussed different trees to place in the medians
such as ligustrum trees, bottle brush trees, holly trees or wax
myrtles. Mr. Corder went over the prices he received for trees.
He informed the Committee the Indian Hawthorne, Coonties, and
Schillings did very well in the medians that have already been
planted.
Mr. Conway questioned if City Manager Grace wanted the person who
installs the plants to maintain them as well. The understanding
he got was the City would have nothing to do with that. Mr.
Corder stated his conversation with City Manager Grace today was
to get a price on maintenance.
Mr. Visconti gave Mr. Corder a list of prices he received from
Pro Care Landscaping and Design.
Mr. Tanksley asked why palm trees can't be put in the medians.
Mr. Corder informed him they can only put in trees with a trunk
up to a 4" diameter.
Mr. Tanksley feels since this is the first median they are
beautifying they should go with a maximum impact to get public
approval.
The Committee went back to discussing how they want the medians
to look. Mr. Corder stated City Manager Grace wants the whole
median planted and mulched.
There was some discussion regarding how much planting space is in
the medians.
The Committee discussed some plants they would like in the
medians. Mr. Visconti asked if they were going to put any grass
in the medians. Mr. Corder stated he didn't think so. Mr.
Visconti asked which is less maintenance for him. Mr. Corder
stated he is at the point he just wants it to look good.
There was some discussion regarding mulching the medians and what
type of mulch to use.
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Mr. Corder asked the Committee if they want each median to be
different or do they want to use a theme. The Committee agreed
they would like to stay with a theme.
The Committee went on to discuss not being able to put palm trees
in the medians unless the City takes on the liability.
Mr. Visconti questioned if Mr. Corder would be getting prices.
Mr. Corder informed him he would be getting prices on everything
installed. He informed the Committee he would like to call a
Special Meeting once he receives the prices. They have to have
this done by Memorial Day in order to make the first Council
meeting in June.
A Special Meeting was scheduled for May 21, 1998.
Mr. Corder agreed to get Mr. Tanksley blank median plans for him
to do the drawings of what the Committee wants in the medians.
Mr. Visconti thanked Mr. Corder for his help with the progress
they have made. Mr. Corder informed the Committee he did not
want to do the plans himself, he wanted the Committee to be
involved.
There was some discussion regarding the different sizes of the
two medians.
Ms. Hoffman suggested using all ligustrum trees instead of the
bottle brush trees. The Committee agreed.
The Committee discussed the medians on the South Causeway in New
Smyrna and the signs used to recognize businesses that have
adopted the medians.
Ms. Hoffman asked Mr. Corder if he had ever heard of Blue Days.
She has them in her yard and feels they are great.
Beautification Award Procedure
The secretary informed the Committee of the procedure used in the
past by the Committee to decide on the Beautification Award.
The secretary informed the Committee to bring a pick for District
1 to the next meeting.
There was some discussion regarding the restrictions on the
beautification award in the by-laws. The secretary agreed to
place this on the agenda for the next meeting.
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Ms. Hoffman asked if there are different homeowners if a home can
be picked more than once. The secretary informed her that is
something they can discuss at the next meeting.
Mr. Tanksley stated he and Mr. Visconti both picked 234 North
Riverside Drive separately and suggested Ms. Hoffman and Mr.
Conway look at this house and they could decide at the Special
Meeting on May 21st if this is who they want to give the award
to. The secretary asked the Committee to pick a house in
District 2 for the next meeting. There was some question as to
whether 234 North Riverside Drive was the correct address.
Mr. Tanksley suggested they choose a business as well. There was
some discussion regarding giving the next business award to
Nationwide Medical at 2018 South Ridgewood Avenue or All Suite
Motel at 335 North Ridgewood Avenue.
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business to discuss.
MISCELLANEOUS
Mr. Visconti informed the Committee of a phone call he received
from Terry Webb regarding wanting to plant a tree in memory of
her mother. He suggested maybe they could promote that with
putting the trees in the medians.
Mr. Visconti and Mr. Corder discussed her placing a tree behind
the fountain on SR 442. Mr. Corder suggested to the Committee
that once they get trees in the medians, if there is nowhere to
plant a tree, maybe they could use a tree that has already been
planted and pay the City a certain amount for the tree and a
plaque. Ms. Hoffman feels it would look like a cemetery. Mr.
Corder thinks the sign would be small and right up against the
trunk. Ms. Hoffman thought it would be okay if they did that on
one tree per median but not every tree.
There was some discussion regarding the plants around the
fountain. Mr. Corder explained to the Committee they put
chlorine in the water and when the wind blows the water, the
chlorine gets on the plants and kills them.
Mr. Corder spoke about not having a lot of places to put trees,
one reason being not having water at some of these places.
Mr. Visconti suggested someone donating a tree in memory of their
loved ones with no plaque. Ms. Hoffman feels that would be fine.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Mr. Tanksley made a
motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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