01-06-1975 - Workshop
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WORKSHOP MEETING
REGULAR MEETING HELD
JANUARY 6, 1975
Mayor Severance called the Workshop Meeting to order.
The City Clerk read the bills and accounts.
Councilman Dietz questioned the Briley, Wild bill for General
Government. The City Clerk explained that that is work done
on the Sanitary Landfill.
Councilman Dietz questioned the Kirby bill. The City Clerk
explained that this was for the meal for the men giving the
instructions in safety and first aid.
Councilman Sikes asked about the Copeland Bros. bill. The City
Clerk read the invoice to him explaining the bill.
Councilman Sikes asked several other questions about the bills.
There is to be a correction on the IBM bill. This should be in
the amount of $16.29.
The City Clerk explained that the bill from Ward LaFrance Truck
Co. is for work done on the old Fire Truck in March.
At this time the floor was given to Rick Fernandez from Briley,
Wild and he reported on the discussions with the County Council
in regard to the FHA loan application. The sewer treatment
plant is planned to serve 1.6 million instead of the original
1.5 million expansion.
Gouncilman Dietz questioned the Board of Health's futureactions
in regard to septic tanks in Edgewater and how this will effect
the new plant now being planned. Mr. Fernandez explained his
beliefs on this.
Councilman Dietz questioned as to whether the City couldn't
go out and made some needed repairs instead of spending all
the mDney on these new plants, etc.
Councilman Lodico stated that he didn't want to spend money
needlessly, however this new plant, is also going to improve
the City's water which has become necessary.
Mayor Severance asked what the difference in money is since the
plant ..wvice was dropped from 1.42 million to 1.0 million.
Mr. Fernandez answered that he was not prepared to answer that
at this time. There was discussion on this. among the Council.
Mr. Armstrong made a few comments about a double meter system.
Councilman Dietz questioned Mr. Fernandez about the garbage
dump. Mr. Fernandez answered that his job was to report what
he felt was economically feasible for the City of Edgewater
as far as the landfill was concerned.
There were questioBs about how a landfill area effects the
City's water.
Councilman B1~.z questioned whether some investigation can
be made to see what kind of reparis can be made on the present
sewer plant also.
Tberewwas quite a bit of discussion about this among the
Council and Rick Fernandez.
Mayor Severance thanked Mr. Fernandez for coming and giving
theCouncil his report.
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Mayor Severance at this time read a letter from Rick Fernandez
in regard to Hamel Mobile Home Park's connection to the Edgewater
Sewer System, stating that the Florida Department of Pollution
Control will not grant approval for a connection of this type
at this time.
Mayor Severance described the contents of a second letter from
Rick Fernandez: The figures in this letter all correspond with the
figures in Ordinance No.878. The City's impact fee for water and
sewer for new developments is under what the estimated cost is.
At this time there was some discussion about this Ordinance and
the amendments that there made in regards to defining a single
family residence.
Councilman Dietz questioned the Cameron Trailer Park connection
with the City, and Mayor Severance explained in sequence how
this developed.
Mr. Armstrong spoke to the Council about the Cameron situation.
Councilman Dietz stated that Mr. Cameron's check was given back
to him because the engineer's statement was that they could not
hook up.
Mayor Severance explained that the letter from the engineer was
interpreted wrong by the Council.
Councilman Dietz stated that someone is not being hORest with
the City and that someone is going to peofit tn'. this thing.
They want to penalize these people, raise their rates, charge
them when they are not here and yet you will turn around and
give someone something for nothing, and it is not right.
Councilman Lodico stated that we have an attorney and whatever
we do must go by the law.
A statement was made about Riverside Drive still not being paved.
Mayor Severance stated that an Ordinance will be coming up at the
regular meeting in regard to stopping the cut off fee.
Discussion began about Trailer Park dwellers and their feelings
in regard to this Ord4iance.
Mayor Severance stated that when we adopted the new rate structure
at that time prior to its adoption there was no cut off fee for
mobile homes, only for single family residences. At this time
it was felt at that time that mobile home dwellers should also
be allowed a cut off fee. Since that time people have contacted
people of the Council complaining that they (mobile home dwellers)
when they went out of town and got back they somehow had been
paying for water and sewer all the time. although they had requested
a cut off and had beeeived credit for it.
Councilman Dietz stated that if thie Ordinance goes through, all
the rates in the City of Edgewater are going to go up.
Mayor Severance stated that this Ordinance will come up at the
regular meeting.
Councilman Dietz questioned that there was not going to be a
Public Hearing?
Mayor Severance stated that he would ask the attorney for his
opinion on this.
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At this time Mr. Armstrong spoke on this situation. His stated
that he realizes how hard it is to be fair to trailer parks be-
cause they don't have meters.
Councilman Sikes stated that he feels that noone objects to the
cut offs, as long as the mobile home park residents were getting
it as well. There are some of these residents that have been
away for the whole summer and have not got credit for not being
a user of the water and sewer.
Mr. Armstrong stated that he knows that some park owners have
raised their rates because the water rates, etc. went up.
Mayor Severance stated that these park residents who are not
getting credit for their cut offs is a matter between the resi-
dents and the park owners on the other hand is it legal for the
City to enter into a problem like this?
Councilman Cairnie stated that originally everyone paid so much
for the sewer per pad, and this continues and charge for the
water and sewer as it goes through the meter. If they use less
water they dont pay as much.
Mr. Armstrong spoke to Mr. Cairnie about this.
Councilman Dietz stated that he feels that it is ridiculous for
anyone to pay for sewer for the water they use to water their
grass.
There was much discussion on this matter.
Mayor Severance stated that the Chief of Police has requestid
to go to the Chief of Police Mid-Winter Conference in Miami.
This is for the Council members to be thinking about before
the next meeting.
The City Clerk reminded the members of the Public Hearing on
the Hamel property Thursday.
The Budget reports were passed out and all the City Clerk is
going to read at the meeting is the total.
Second reading of the Ordinance on Vacation schedule will come
up, and second reading of the Ordinance establishing the Zoning
Board and the Planning Board.
The City Clerk explained the situation concerning Mrs. Baker's
request to park her husband's semi truck on their residential
property. This request went from the Council to the Zoning
and Planning Board, from them to the Board of Adjustments,
and back to the Council. Mrs. Baker has sent a second request
which has been tabled until tonight.
The City Attorney explained that there are no parking permits
as such at this time, but something could be instituted .
There was discussion at this time as to whether there have
been any complaints by neighbors, etc.
City Attorney suggested that the Recreational Vehicle Ordinance
be amended to add semi trucks, etc, instead of the Zoning Ordinance.
The City Clerk stated that she needs an appointment to the Merit
Board, and the Board of Governors.
Mr. Wiaver is going to find about the disc~osure law in regard to
the Merit Board appointment.
Mayor Severance stated that he plans to attend the first meeting
of the Board of Governors and help explain their duties in
regard to the new tennis courts, etc.
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The City Clerk stated that bids are suppose to return on the
crawler. Two rejections and one bid has been received so far.
The City Clerk explained that $200.00 does not run the postage
meter very long anymore. It is requested that a motion be
made to raise this to $300.00.
The City Clerk read a letter from Mr. and Mrs. James Murphy
requesting that Riverside Drive be designated as a btc;c1e
route.
The City Clerk read a letter from the residents of Pyramid
Trailer Park asking for advice for zoning requirements for
their trailer park, especially setback restrictions. The
park is being sold and the new owner wants to keep it as a
trailer park.
There was little discussion with the City Attorney about this.
The City Clerk suggested that the council memhers look over the
minutes and if there are any changes to be made please notify
her before the meeting so that they can be made.
The last matter for discussion is Atlantic Machine and Protro
Mo1e1s business license is invalid. City Attorney Weaver was
asked to 100kinto this and write the appropriate correspondence.
Mayor Severance introduced Mr. Osborne, of Triangle Service, Inc.
There was some discussion with the City Attorney about the worM
"exclusive" being taken out of the agreement. Mayor Severance
explained that this agreement is good for four (4) years.
Mr. Weaver is to write an opinion in regard to this for the next
meeting.
Councilman Sikes stated that the City Clerk get on the other
businesses who have not renewed their licenses. A list should
be turned over tbethe police department and they are to handle
the matter of checking them out.
Meeting adjourned.