04-21-1975 - Workshop
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WORKSHOP
APRIL 21, 1975
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The Regular Session of the Workshop Meeting was called to order
Monday, April 21, 1975 at 7:30 P.M. by Mayor Severance.
BILLS & ACCOUNTS
See attached list.
Councilman Dietz questioned the bill on Briley, Wild & Associates
for water & sewer $288.14.
The City Clerk explained that $62.43 is for the loan application,
the work that was done in Florida Shores, $225.00.
Councilman Dietz then questioned the bill for Atlantic Machine
Works for $155.00.
The City Clerk explained that this was for the grading for the
Sewer Plant.
Councilman Dietz asked if Atlantic Machine Works was operating
without a permit, and asked if we solicite business off of them.
He then stated that he had no comment of this.
Councilman Dietz then questioned the bill for Jefferson Clark
for $250.00 from the Police Department.
The Caief of Police Katez stated that he was a Public Defender.
Councilman Sikes questioned the bill for Holiday Recreation for
$50.00.
City Manager Bryant explained that this was for stripping the
handball courts so that another game could be played there.
This was something that was requested by the recreation board,
not in the original contract.
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Councilman Sikes asked about the City Attorney's bill for
$657.00.
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Mayor Severance stated that the City Clerk has made copies of
the entire bill. City Attorney Weaver explained this bill to
the Council. He stated that he billed the City for a conversation
that he had with Mr. Mc Gough the County FHA man. He stated
that last Wednesday he called his office. This conversation
has nothing to do with the water and sewer loan. It had to do
with a letter that was sent to FHA in Washington D.C. to Congressman
Chappell by Mrs. Alice Murphy. The letter is apparently making
certain acquisations against the City Council, the City Manager,
the City Clerk and the City Attorney. In regard to the proposed
variance application by Mr. Cartee in P6inter Subdivi~ton. He
stated that he has not read the letter or seen what was exactly
said, but it was read to him over the phone. He stated that the
FHA people in Washington got rather upset about this and forwarded
it to Mr. Mc Gough to make a full investigation. There were
certain acquisations that we were doing something illegal and
some references that FHA funds should not be spent in conjunction
with the illegal activities.
Councilman Dietz stated that he felt that the City Council is
entitled to have copies of this letter that Mrs. Murphy wrote.
City Attorney Weaver stated that we will have to get a court
order to get copies of this letter.
The Council then discussed the emergency rescue vehicle and the
resolution regarding this that the Attorney drew up.
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GENERAL FUND
City of Edgewater WW & SS
Southern Bell
Florida Power & Light Co.
Oasis Car Wash
Nice Place
N. Dale Bryant
AICPA
Edgewater Shuffleboard Club
Jefferson W. Clark
State Tractor & Equipment
Xerox
Jack Cocke & Company
County of Volusia
NSB-Edgewater Human Society
SouthEastern Products
Electrolux
Holiday Rec. Planning
Joseph E. Weaver
Calvin R. Dietz
Jacob Lodico
David C. Severance
vlATER & SEHER
City of Edgewater WW & SS
Southern Bell
Edgewater Manufacturing Co.
Florida Power & Light Co.
Stevens Lock Shop
Betz Laboratories, Inc.
Curtin Matheson Scientific
A~lantic Machine Works
Hughes Supply
Briley, Wild & Associates
Petty CRsh
BILLS & ACCOUNTS
APRIL ?4, 1975
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Gen.Gov. ,Rec. ,Com.C.
F.D., Street
St.lighting, Traffic Light
P.D.
P.D.
Vol.League & Seminar Exp.
Gen. Gov.
Shuffleboard
P.D.
Street
Gen. Gov.
St. Paving & Improvements
Gen. Gov.(Bldg. Insp.)
Humane Society
Gen. Gov.
Gen. Gov.(upkeep)
Multi-games
City Attorney
Vol.League of Cities
Mileage & Vol.League
Vol. League
Water
Water
Sewer
Water & Sewer
Sewer
Water
Sewer
Sewer
Water
Water & Sewer
Water & Sewer
51.70
101.05
1,674.67
8.75
94.37
20.72
5.00
200.00
250.00
111.24
135.00
85.60
1,186.44
'\ 150.00
34.50
7.75
50.00
657.50
8.50
12.50
8.50
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4,853.79
5.50
40.23
150.26
1,156.11
5.00
14.00
23.14
155.00
242.78
288.14
7.75
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2,087.91
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Mayor Severance stated that we are creating an emergency rescue
unit that would act in the same manner as Beacon does currently,
only on a volunteer basis. They then discussed the insurance on
this.
Councilman Sikes asked what AICPA was on the bills and accounts.
The City Clerk explained that this was a certified public accountant.
COMMUNICATIONS
City Attorney Weaver then discussed with the Council Atlantic
Machine Shop's license. He stated that they have filed an
application for a variance to conform to our City zoning.
Mr. Weaver stated that we have a situation now where Atlantic
Machine and Proto Mold have filed an application for a variance.
What they are actually asking for is for us to declare their
structure a nonconforming structure that would give it 20 year
life. They want a variance to continue the type of operation that
they have been performing. They have been there for 3 years. They
are in a B-3 zone. This application will be heard May 12 before
the Board of Adjustments. He stated that the City Clerk handed
him another application tonight for Atlantic Machine Works of
a little different nature. Mr. King in not utilizing a part of
his building and would like to let someone else use part of this
building. It would be basically the same type of operation. This
will bring approximately 50 good paying jobs to this area. He
stated that the situation has to be resolved by the Board of
Adjustments.
Mayor Severance instructed the City Clerk to put these items on
the agenda for the City Council Meeting.
City Attorney Weaver then discussed with the Council the request
for variance from Mr. Cartee. He stated that he was to set forth
what the present zoning was in the area involved. Actually there
arc two areas involved, an R-4 Classification and a R-5A. There
was 6 lots in R-4 and 1 lot in R-5A. This is set to go before
the Board of Adjustments. When the houses that are already
built they were built on every other lot, so you have 55 feet with
the set backs. This gives the appearance of large lots. When
actually these lots are owned by another party. Mr. Cartee and Mr.
Frank Hall, intered into some kind of agreement to purchase these
lots from the owners. They are going to need a variance as to the
lot size itself in order to build on that particular lot. This
has made a lot of people in this area rather mad and we can see
why. But the fact is that they don't own these lots. Mr. Weaver
stated that he did not know how we could legally refuse to allow
them to build on these lots. To keep them from building anything
on these lots would be unconstitutional.
The Council discussed this matter with the City Attorney in full.
Mayor Severance stated that Mr. Sikes brought it out earlier, that
there were three names mentioned that presently today own this
property, then in the minutes, Mr. Cartee and someone else stated
that they owned it and later on in the minutes it was stated that
Mr. Pointer stood and stated that he owned the property. Mayor
Severance asked who owns this property.
Does Mr. Pointer still own this property, have these people actually
purchased the property or does the original owner still own it.
Mayor Severance stated that these are question that we need to look
into before taking any action on this.
15 Min. Mrs. Murphy stated that she personally went down and checked on the
ownership of these lots, and a man named Mr. Arnett is paying the
taxes on them. These people came to us and asked to have their
side variance reduced from 10 to 15 feet and we refused it.
Mayor Severance stated that what they are asking for now is a lot
size varience, They are asking for a reduction for all lots from
the required 75 feet to 55 feet.
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Mrs. Murphy stated that it seems foolish to put more homes in this
area where the ones that are presently living there are having
problems.
Mayor Severance stated that Thursday, based ontthe information
from Mr. Weaver, to announce then as to when this item will come
before the Council for final action so that the public can be
notified and we will attempt to do it by utilizing the press.
The Council discussed ordinances that would be coming up at the
Council meeting.
Mayor Severance then read a letter in regards to the HUD Block
Grnat that we attempted to get some monies from, that were suppose
to be available, then they came back with a form letter stating
that there was no money. He stated that Mr. Bryant did a little
writing and sent letters off to Senator Stone, Senator Chiles, and
Congressman Chappell in regards to the manner in which we received
information from the HUD people and the attitude and voice in
which the communications were written.
He then read a letter from Senator Stone stating basically the
same thing. lIe also read a letter from Mr. Chappell.
Mr. Bryant stated that Ormond Beach spent some $5,000.00 in their
preapplication ind they also ended up in the same boat that we are
presently in.
Mayor Severance stated that there was no need for this to be put
on the agenda that it was merely a matter of information.
The City Clerk stated that she has two memos from the Merit Board.
She explained that we have adopted a policy that when people are
ready to go from Step A to Step B we don't just go ahead and do
without the Merit Board knowing.
She then read the memos (1) requesting that the Ci ty Council accept
the recommendation ~f the City Clerk, the City Manager and the
Police Chief in regards to the following employees: Officer
Tillotson, from Patrolman Step A to Step B rectroactive to 6 months
anniversary date. Debbis Sigler from ClerkII Step A to Clerk II
Step B.
She then read the (2) memos stating that the Merit Pay Board
would like to recommend to the City'Council that all City employees
receive a 5% cost of living raise effective May 1, 1975.
The Council discussed this in full. City Manager Bryant stated
"'1 the figures that he has come up with.
Mavor Severance stated that we should table this recommendation until
we'do get more information based on the total budget fugures,
this would include the appropriations that we might make now and
the end of this fiscal year.
Mayor Severance stated that the 5% cost of living raise will be
placed on the agenda to hold until the next Workshop Meeting.
The City Clerk then read throught the Police Department Report.
City Manager Bryant stated that he has two requests on Ordinance
849 which refers to trailer permits. (1) from a W.C. Mac Intire
would like to use a mobile home for an office and storage space
at 58 High Street for construction purposes for 90 days.
The Council discussed this in full. Mayor Severance stated that
he would like to know if there has been any building permits
issued for the area. He stated that he felt that we needed more
information on this, before we give any approval and that this
should be placed on the agenda for Thursday night.
(2) Mr. Bryant stated that he also has a request for the mobile
home that we have placed on the property at the garage for
security purposes. Mayor Severance stated that the Council has
alread given the approval for this trailer to be placed there.
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The City Clerk stated that she has a letter from a man in
Florida Shores regarding a street light. She asked the Council
if she should start another folder on these requests for
street lights. .
Mayor Severance stated that we are at the point where we have
installed in the past 3 years 105 street lights in Edgewater.
35 each year for the past 3 years. We are hoping to get caught
up so that when a request comes in we can survey it and determine
whether or not a light would be feasible there and how much it
would cost. Sometimes several poles have to be put in to get
a light down to some of these houses and $1.00 a pole.
The Council discussed this in full. Mavor Severance instructed
the City Clerk to put this on the agend~.
The City Clerk stated that coming up for second reading Thursday
in Ordinance No.9l4 for concrete and steel on the garage, 915 for
finishing the concrete work, 916 for the plumbing, 917 for the
building, 918 for the electrical, 919 for the cable T.V., 920
for intering into a contractial agreement with commercial and
industrial sewer users, and 921 which is amending the budget.
The City Clerk stated that we have people who come in and apply for
a license that have no reason to have a building to do their
work from.
The Coucnil discussed this matter in full. Mayor Severance
stated that the thing to do would be to come up with an
amendment to the ordinance.
The Council discussed this matter of licenses in full. Mayor
Severance stated that it mi~ht be advisable thin~ to do for
the City Manager to come up'with some kind of re~ommendation
as to what type of an amendment he feels would make the job
easier in allocating and approving occupational licenses based
on the residential type license and also based on commercial
licenses.
The City Clerk stated that we have a notice from FHA where they
approved the loan. She stated that on March 17, Mr. Me Gough was
notified that we should try to get complete plans, specifications,
and etc to Gainesville by the 30th of April. The next paragraph
stated that we should secure our financing for the project. Then
along about the 1st of April Mr. Eldridge came and talked with Mr.
Bryant and wanted to know how we were coming along with the
paper work, and Mr. Bryant did not know about any paper work. Then
on the 8th of April we received a note from Mr. He Gough stating
to instruct the project engineer to complete final plans, specifications,
and contract documents and submit them to the State Office and
the State Regulatory Agencies for approval no later than April 30th.
The City Clerk then read a letter regarding funds available from
Walter R. Sikes.
Councilman Sikes stated that the City Attorney Mr. Weaver, the
banks attorney Mr. Chisholm and Mr. Cunningham should get together
and have this all worked out and figured out, because Mr. Chisholm
is familiar with this, so they are aware of this. The City must
want a letter stating that the money is not available, He stated
that he could not see why the City should pay interest at least
for 3 to 6 months before the work is even started. We do not have
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The Council discussed the loan in full from FHA. They then discussed
a resolution hiring bond attorneys.
The City Clerk stated that we have had several requests for a
Clean Up Day allover the City. This will be held Wednesday May
14th. for the entire City. This is to pick up things that they don't
10 Min. normally pick up.
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The City Clerk asked if City Hall will he closed May 26
for Memorial Day. The Council discussed this as to the ordinance
for holidays. Mayor Severance stated that this will be placed
on the agenda.
The City Clerk read a letter from the Building Code Committee
Chairman, Mr. Paul Loeffler regarding the codes and other items
that the building code committee have submitted to the Council.
Mayor Severance asked the City Attorney to have these codes
back to the Council at the next Workshop Meeting, then they will
be placed on the agenda for May 8th meeting for vote. The Council
discussed this in full.
Mayor Severance explained to Councilman Dietz that the Building
Code Board will automatically assume the duties of the Building
Code Board of Adjustments.
The Council then discussed the building permit for Rdgewater
recommended by the Building Code Board.
Mayor Severance asked the City Clerk to get him a copy of the
building permit that is now used by the County. He stated
that this should also be put on the agenda.
City Manager Bryant and the May,or discussed the letter that the
Planning Board has submitted to the Council. Mayor Severance
stated that they would like to get together with the Council
to go over different items and to get some direction from the
council in regards to the planning boards functions. They
have changed their next meeting May 19 to May 21 so that they
will be free to meet with the Council.
Councilman Dietz stated that the first item that they need
to do is to report on all streets not paved that have sewer
and water. Second, we want to know all of the streets that
is in the city that are available to city sewers and city
water that don't have them. Third, Councilman Dietz stated
that we don't own a bit of land in Florida Shores, and someday
when it gets bigger we are going to have to put a firestation
out there and recreation facilities, let the planning board
recommend land for the City.
Min. The Board discussed this matter in full. Mavor Severance
requested that this letter also be placed on" the agenda.
Mayor Severance then discussed with the Council the matter of
clearing the water plant property. He stated that we could save
as much as $10,000 if we did the clearing ourselves. We have
12 Ceta employees that could help to clear this. The Council
went into an in depth discussion on this.
The City Clerk stated that she has advertised for the property
manager and the building inspector. She stated that she has several
applications and would like the Councilmen when they have time
to stop by and look them over.
Mayor Severance adjourned this workshop meeting.
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