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City of Edgewater
Construction Regulation Board
Regular Meeting
July 28, 1998
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice Chairman Bosse called to order the regular meeting of the Construction
Regulation Board (CRB) on Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 7:12 p.m. in the
Community Development Conference Room.
ROLL CALL:
Members present were Vice Chairman Michael Bosse, Woody Tindall, Charlie
Cobb and Ed Fahey. Chairman Sid Corhem and Bob Howard were excused.
Gary Madole was recorded absent. Also present were Councilman Gary
Roberts; Dennis I. Fischer, Building Official; Lt. Jill S. Landerville, Life Safety
Division Supervisor; and Tonya L. Elliott, Board Coordinator.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Vice Chairman Bosse entertained a motion to accept or reject the minutes of
January 29, 1998. Mr. Tindall moved to accept the minutes of January 29, 1998.
Seconded by Mr. Cobb. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
Vice Chairman Bosse entertained a motion to accept or reject the minutes of May
26, 1998. Mr. Cobb moved to approve the minutes of May 26, 1998. Seconded
by Mr. Fahey. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
1) Reappointment of Gary Madole whose term expired May 01, 1998, or
review applications for appointment of a new member (held over from May
26, 1998). Vice Chairman Bosse asked if there had been any contact with Gary
Madole. The Board Coordinator said no. Vice Chairman Bosse said there were
two (2) applicants interested in filling the position; Thomas B. Allen, 1887 S.
Pinedale Rd.; and Gregory D. Moore, 1401 S. Ridgewood Ave., unit 7. Mr.
Tindall said based on Mr. Allen's his credentials he made a good prospect. Mr.
Fischer said Mr. Allen is the current plans examiner for the City of Maitland and
extremely qualified. Vice Chairman Bosse agreed Mr. Alllen was the most
qualified but did not appear to be a resident of the City of Edgewater. Mr.
Fischer confirmed that Mr. Allen's residence is about 50 yards outside of the city
limits, however, he said the Board is just making a recommendation to City
Council. Vice Chairman Bosse asked if there were any recommendation from
the Board. Mr. Tindall recommended Thomas Allen fill the position. Seconded
by Mr. Cobb.
Vice Chairman Bosse asked if there was any discussion. Mr. Fahey asked what
City Council would say if the Board recommended Mr. Allen over Mr. Moore who
is a resident of the City. Vice Chairman Bosse said that was one of the
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questions everyone was concerned about. Mr. Fischer reiterated Mr. Allen's
qualifications. Councilman Roberts said there are other Boards that the City has
allowed outside residents to serve on. He said it is possible that Council would
be more than willing to go along with the recommendation of the CRB but said
the By-laws would need to be checked. A copy of the Land Development Code
Section 304.02 (B) Construction Regulation Board was handed out to the Board
which states that "Each member of the CRB shall be a resident of the City unless
no qualified candidate applies." Mr. Fischer said the key word is "shall" meaning
will. He asked the Board Coordinator to check the phone book and utility billing
to verify that Mr. Moore is still a resident of the City.
Vice Chairman Bosse asked if Mr. Tindall or Mr. Cobb wanted to rescind their
motion. Mr. Tindall rescinded his motion because he felt it wasn't right for the
Board to go against it's By-laws and recommend someone who is not a resident
of the City. After further discussion on the issue, Mr. Tindall made a motion to
recommend that Mr. Greg Moore be appointed pending verification of residency.
Seconded by Mr. Fahey. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
2) Review Uniform Building Code (UBC). Vice Chairman Bosse asked if
everyone had reviewed the UBC and the memorandum from the Fire
Department. He said at the January 1998 meeting the Board had requested the
Fire Department comment on sections 101.6, Exception A and B; and section
104.15 of the UBC. Lt. Landerville said the Fire Department agrees that section
101.6 should remain in the Code. However, Exception A could potentially put
firefighters at risk by requiring them to enter a building on fire in order to
disconnect the power. Both Exceptions mention the use of rapid entry security
boxes, which would present a deterrent to entry in mutual aid situations because
there is no universal key system. A Brief discussion followed on the universal
key system.
Vice Chairman Bosse said the other issue raised at the January meeting was
section 104.15, Multi-plug adapters. He said multi-plug adapters are technically
in violation of the code but are allowed as long as they are not daisy chained,
overloaded or located someplace they are subject to damage. He said his big
concern is they can be used as long as the Electrical Inspector approves them.
However, if the Fire Inspector comes in at a later date and says they are being
used improperly it could put the inspectors at odds. Therefore, he feels section
104.15 should say, "These permitted uses will be up to the discretion of both the
Electrical Inspector and Fire Official." Lt. Landerville said it should be "and/or"
because if you link them together with "and" you have another level of
bureaucracy. Mr. Fischer said the recommended changes the Electrical Code
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Committee (ECC) wants will help address these issues. He said one of the
things they are requesting is that surge protection arrestors be installed in the
meter can at the time of installation. There was a lengthy discussion on multi
outlet extensions. Vice Chairman Bosse reiterated that his main concern is in the
wording. Mr. Fischer said the Board could modify the UBC by adding language
for this municipality. He said they could also make it known to the Uniform Code
Committee that the Fire Inspector should be added along with the Electrical
Inspector regarding the allowing of temporary power connections. Discussion
continued on this issue. The Board finally agreed to change the wording in
section 104.15 to "These permitted uses will be up to the discretion of the
Electrical Inspector or Fire Official."
Vice Chairman Bosse said that section 1 01.6 Main disconnects, was the only
other section the Board had questions about. He said there wasn't a problem
with the main section just the Exceptions A, Band C as discussed previously.
There was further discussion on why the exceptions need to be eliminated, and
the ECC's role.
Vice Chairman Bosse said if there were no more areas of concern he would
entertain a motion. Mr. Tindall moved to recommend adoption with the exception
of adding "or Fire Official" to section 104.15, and eliminate Exceptions A Band
C from section 101.6. Seconded by Mr. Cobb. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
3) Electrical Uniform Code Committee 1999 Code Update Recommendation.
Vice Chairman Bosse said they had already discussed some of the ECC
recommendation with agenda item 2. Mr. Fischer briefly talked about the other
proposed recommendations and addressed a couple of questions from the
Board.
NEW BUSINESS:
None at this time.
ADJOURN:
There being no other business to come before the Board a motion to adjourn was
made and seconded. Meeting adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by:
Tonya L. Elliott, Board Coordinator
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