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09-12-2001 " (..) u CITY OF EDGEW A TER Planning and Zoning Board Regular Meeting Wednesday, September 12,2001 6:30 p.m. Chairman Garthwaite called to order the regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board at 6:30 p.m., September 12, 2001 in the Community Center, 102 N. Riverside Drive, Edgewater, Florida. ROLL CALL Members present were Chairman Garthwaite, Mr. Masso, Mrs. Zeese, Mr. Heeb, and Mrs. Pluscec, Mr. Mullen and Mr. V opelak. Also present were Planning Director Lynne Plaskett, Board Coordinator Pat Drosten and Planning Secretary Bonnie Wenzel APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mr. Masso made a motion to approve the minutes of August 13, 2001 as read. Mr. Mullen seconded. Motion PASSED 7-0 NEW BUSINESS AN-0106 thru AN-0116- Voluntary annexation of approximately 28.35 acres of property under multiple ownership, located south and east of 35th Street in the platted Washington Park Subdivision and a 5-acre tract, which is part of Government Lot 2. Chairman Garthwaite opened the public hearing. Ms. Plaskett gave a summary and background information. Ms. Plaskett explained the process of contacting each of the owners in Washington Park. She further stated that staff has been in contact with the owners and they are aware there is no access or utilities to the property. She concluded by stating staff is still trying to contact the remaining property owners. Mr. Heeb asked who would pay infrastructure improvements on the annexed property. Ms. Plaskett stated the property owners would be liable for the costs and that it is possible a special taxing district could be added. Mr. Heeb asked if any other owners have come forward to annex their property. Ms. Plaskett stated no. Mr. Heeb asked if the City could annex the property involuntarily. Ms. Plaskett stated there would have to be a referendum. Chairman Garthwaite asked if there was still a planted buffer around Florida Shores. Ms. Plaskett stated there was, and that the legal department was looking into whether it could be vacated. She further stated there is one (l) house in Washington Park that received a waiver to cross the buffer. Planning & Zoning Board 9-12-01 1 (.) o Pat Card, Willow Oak Drive, asked if there would be access into Washington Park from Florida Shores. Ms. Plaskett showed him the map and how the two (2) subdivisions relate to each other. Mr. Card asked if this would increase the traffic in Florida Shores. Ms. Plaskett stated it would not. Mr. Card asked the Board if they wanted to open Washington Park into Edgewater Lakes. Ms. Plaskett stated if the property owners in Washington Park wanted to develop the road they would have to have them paved and utilities installed and to be able to connect to Edgewater Lakes they would have to negotiate with the developer of that project. Mr. Heeb asked if the roads actually existed. Ms. Plaskett stated they were only paper roads. Mr. Card stated that if access to the north and south were to be from Willow Oak it would make the traffic situation even worse, it would become as busy as Roberts Road. Chairman Garthwaite stated that Willow Oak was a good distance from this site. Ms. Plaskett added that Willow Oak was considered a collector road in the City's Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Card felt that if these roads were opened and connected to Edgewater Lakes people would use Willow Oak to get to 1-95. Chairman Garthwaite suggested not connecting Washington Park to Edgewater Lakes, and to have the only access via 35th Street. Mr. Masso asked what the lot sizes were. Ms. Plaskett stated they were platted 50' x 120', and there are 26 different owners. She further stated the County would not issue building permits for these parcels. Mr. Heeb noted that Mr. Card was concerned about the traffic impact. Mike Visconti, Pine Breeze Drive, stated that there is only one major artery going north and south, not including 1-95. He felt Mission Road should be extended as far as Oak Hill. Much discussion ensued regarding the legality of the planting strip and the impacts of opening the platted subdivision to Edgewater Lakes. Chairman Garthwaite closed the public hearing. Mr. Masso asked what the planting buffer was. Ms. Plaskett explained that the buffer is not physically there, it is only on paper. It was put in place to protect Florida Shores from other developments accessing the roads. Mrs. Zeese asked where the buffer was. Ms. Plaskett stated it was along 35th Street and possibly Travelers Palm. Mr. Mullen made a motion to send a favorable recommendation to City Council for AN-OI06 through AN-0116 provided legal advise is received by the Board regarding the status of the six- foot planted buffer and that no access (north and south) to Edgewater Lakes takes place. Mr. Masso seconded. MOTION PASSED 7-0. Planning & Zoning Board 9-12-01 2 " (,) u AN-0117 - John Merrick, authorized agent for multiple owners, is requesting annexation of 7.0:1: acres located on the west side of U.S. Highway 1, south of East Wind Subdivision. Chairman Garthwaite opened the public hearing. Ms. Plaskett gave background and staffs recommendation. Mr. V opelak asked what the development was across the street. Ms. Plaskett read the current land use for the properties north, south, east, and west of this property and stated it was contiguous to Edgewater Lakes. Mr. Heeb asked if they were only annexing the property at this time. Ms. Plaskett stated that was correct. Chairman Garthwaite closed the public hearing. Mr. Masso made a motion to send a favorable recommendation to City Council for annexation of AN-OI17. Mr. Vopelak seconded. MOTION PASSED 7-0. CU-OI05 - Edgewater United Methodist Church is requesting a Conditional Use Permit to allow offices/classrooms in the R-3 (Single Family Residential) zoning district as an accessory use to the abutting church. Chairman Garthwaite opened the public hearing. Ms. Plaskett gave the background information and staff recommendation. Mr. Ward Berg, attorney, was present to answer questions. Ms. Pluscec stated that she received a letter notifying her of the public hearing due to living within SOO-feet of the subject property. She noted that there was a lot of green space between Hubble and Lamont and wondered if it could be retained. She also asked if they could have parking to the rear near the jungle gym and utilize the space near the church. Mr. Berg stated he did not know if that would meet the City's requirements, although they could make the handicap space at the house and not impact the green area. Ms. Pluscec suggested retaining the green space (on Hubbell and Lamont) and utilize the property behind the house. Mr. Berg asked if they could utilize the green space when necessary. Ms. Plaskett stated that would be o.k. provided it was not on a regular basis. Mr. Heeb asked if they were proposing a shell drive into the property from behind the existing house. Mr. Berg stated that was correct. Ms. Plaskett recommended that if they were to cross property lines that the properties be combined into one (1) parcel. Ms. Pluscec suggested putting the parking behind the shed, next to the existing driveway. Ms. Plaskett stated that recommendation was acceptable. Planning & Zoning Board 9-12-01 3 ,:; .' (.,) u Mr. Mullen asked Ms. Plaskett if she was comfortable with the suggestions. She stated she was, although new site plans would have to be approved. Mr. Heeb stated they were basically saying that if we take out the shell road that the only part left would be the pavement for the handicap spot and the rest of the area would remain the same in appearance, the only difference would be if there would be some type of bumper stops for cars. They will still have to have access through the back property. Ms. Pluscec again suggested having the parking behind the house near the jungle gym. Ms. Plaskett stated two (2) options could be looked at; Ms. Pluscec's option and looking at the trees and shrubs to see if they could meet the minimum parking requirements in the back. Ms. Hazel Wilkinson, Hubbell St., said she shares a common line, she welcomes the church to expand, as they are good neighbors. Chairman Garthwaite asked if there was room for parking in the back. Ms. Pluscec stated that was her suggestion; keep the parking in the back. Ms Plaskett stated she did not have the survey and could not determine if there was enough room at this time. Chairman Garthwaite closed the public hearing. Mr. V opelak suggested making the concrete drive a little wider and use it for parking. Ms. Plaskett stated the Board could recommend the two (2) options discussed and staff will work with the church on it. The options being; (1) Locate the parking behind the house near the jungle gym; (2) Widen the existing driveway to accommodate the required parking. Ms. Zeese asked if they were still considering parking on the grass. Mr. Mullen stated if necessary. Ms. Pluscec asked if they were looking to park east/west or north/south, Mr. V opelak said pull in the driveway and turn left. Ms. Pluscec reiterated, the suggestion is to keep the parking as it is on the site plan. Mr. V opelak stated that was correct except that it would be grass. Ms. Pluscec made a motion to give staff the leeway to look at the options of expanding the driveway and having additional parking with the possibility for grass parking and the second option of having the parking behind the house, utilizing some of that space also. Mr. V opelak seconded. MOTION PASSED 7-0. At 7:38 Chairman Garthwaite called a recess. The meeting resumed at 7:45. RZ-OI05 - Jim Scott and Ed Grant, authorized agents, are requesting rezoning and an associated Zoning Agreement for 9.95:1:: acres of property located on the south side of Roberts Road, across from Meadow Lake Subdivision, from R-4 (Multi-Family Residential) to RPUD (Residential Planned Unit Development). Chairman Garthwaite opened the public hearing and Ms. Plaskett gave background information and staff recommendation. Planning & Zoning Board 9-12-01 4 .' (.) (.) Ms. Pluscec asked if the Agreement stated there would be one (1) tree per 2,500 square feet of lot area. Ms. Plaskett stated that was correct. She also said the intention was to keep as many trees as possible, rather than have to replace all of the trees. Chairman Garthwaite stated that if the property stayed with the R-4 zoning they would be able to develop eight (8) units per acre. Mr. Heeb asked if there would be any buffer between this development and the property to the west. Ms. Plaskett said there would not be because both properties were zoned residential. Mr. Pat Card, Willow Oak Drive said his in-laws recently purchased a home in the neighboring Meadow Lake subdivision and that it was very desirable property. He said the Board is asked to determine if this new development would be compatible with the surrounding area. He felt 38 homes on 9.95::!:: acres with each home being approximately 1,600 square feet including the garage would not look good from the street, you would only see the garage. He further stated that in Florida Shores you have to have two (2) 40-foot lots to build and that most areas in the City require the structure to be IS-feet from the property line. He asked if these were going to be manufactured homes. Ms. Plaskett stated no. Mr. Card felt these homes would be very small, that he was worried about this type of development and asked the Board to recommend denial. Mike Visconti, Pine Breeze Drive, asked the Board if this development could become more like Meadow Lake. He said they have a 10-foot setback on the side. He further stated that in Florida Shores you have to have two (2) 40-foot lots to build a house. He would like to see them copy Meadow Lake so the property value will stay the same. He is afraid the property values will go down, and he can't see 38 homes on a nine (9) acre lot. He also asked the Board to deny the request and stated again he would like them to copy Meadow Lakes. Doris Fox stated her daughter lived in Meadow Lakes and she lives in Wildwood with an 83 x 100-foot lot. She felt the more houses the more traffic and that the lots should be bigger. Chairman Garthwaite asked if there were any plans to widen Roberts Road, as this was discussed years ago. Ms. Plaskett stated she did not think the traffic counts warrant it. Chairman Garthwaite said with all the new development it would probably warrant it. Ms. Plaskett stated that Meadow Lakes is zoned R-4 and has a Development Agreement to only build single-family homes. She further stated that the market is heading toward smaller lots. There are a lot of wetlands on the property between this and the school. She continued that Mironda Homes is looking to build in this subdivision. Ms. Zeese said she had never heard of the garage or porch to be included in the living area. Ms. Plaskett stated it was included in the total square footage of the house, not the living area. She further stated that the size of the living area does not make a subdivision good or bad, and at this time the Board is only considering the rezoning not the plat. Mr. Heeb asked if the property to the north is residential. Ms. Plaskett stated it was, in the county with 50-foot lots and explained to the Board the surrounding area. Planning & Zoning Board 9-12-0 I 5 u (.) Mr. Heeb said he was not sure how this development would affect future development, it would give leeway for other developers to seek 50-foot lots. Mr. Heeb asked what type of construction would be used. Ed Grant stated block and stucco. Ms. Pluscec said the request is to change the zoning from R-4 to RPUD with 38 homes. If the property remains R-4 they would be able to build 5.1 - 8.0 units per acre. She said the applicant is asking to reduce the density, and asked is that in the best interest. Ms. Plaskett stated that staff believed so. Ms. Pluscec asked if the lots could be larger. Ms. Plaskett stated they could. Ms. Pluscec then asked how large were the lots in Meadow Lakes. Mr. Card replied that they vary, but are from 80-feet to 1 OO-feet wide. Mr. Heeb stated that he did not like the idea of 50-foot lots if it was not compatible, he asked Mr. Scott if they approved 75-foot lots would he be o.k. with that. Mr. Scott stated that the builder requested 50-foot lots, and that he has never developed 50-foot lots before. He also said that staff and the City Manager are not against this. He said they are getting the best builder they can and are proposing homes with more square footage than the minimum requirements. Mr. Heeb asked if the minimum gross house square footage included the garage or would they increase the size by adding the garage. Mr. Scott stated the size included the garage. He said that Mironda Homes wants to build in the range of 2,500 square feet, and that the house size is within code. Mr. Scott explained the type of housing Mironda will build and their projections for building the homes. Ms. Zeese asked if they were only changing the zoning at this point. Ms. Plaskett said yes. Chairman Garthwaite closed the public hearing. Ms. Pluscec made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of the rezoning from R-4 to RPUD. Ms. Zeese seconded. MOTION PASSED 6-1, Mr. Mullen voted no. DA-OI02 - Jim Scott and Ed Grant, authorized agents, are proposing development of a subdivision on 9.95:i: acres of property located on the south side of Roberts Road, south of Meadow Lake Subdivision, to be known as Edgewater Terrace. Ms. Plaskett gave background information and a synopsis of the agreement. Pat Card, Willow Oak Drive, asked whose market they were talking about, the Meadow Lake Subdivision sold out quickly. He told the Board they are asked to determine if the development will be compatible with the surrounding area. He said Council agrees with 50-foot lots as long as there is a mix, this does not seem compatible. He also has a problem with the lot sizes. Dolores Fox said to the Board that if people wanted lots that size they should buy a mobile home and if this passes other developers will want to do the same thing. Planning & Zoning Board 9-12-01 6 . r (..) w ., . Ms. Zeese asked Mr. Scott what the price range would be for the homes. Mr. Scott determined the price range to be approximately $130,000. Mr. Masso asked if a 2,000 square foot home would be two (2) stories. Mr. Scott said that was possible, he stated the houses were not going to be box homes and 50-foot lots are popular and this subdivision will be competitive with other developments. Mrs. Zeese asked if the 2,500 square feet would only include a single car garage. Mr. Scott stated the standard model has a 2-car garage. Mrs. Zeese asked if the subdivision would have a clubhouse. Mr. Scott answered no, but there will be a Home Owners Association. Mr. Scott informed the Board that a 40 x 70-foot house would have 2,500 square feet under roof with 2,100 square feet of living area. Chairman Garthwaite closed the public hearing. Chairman Garthwaite stated that there was a lot for the Board to look at. He asked Ms. Plaskett if the developer could go back and double the number of lots. Ms. Plaskett stated he could. Mrs. Zeese asked if they wanted the lots larger could they say that. Mrs. Plaskett stated they could. Mr. Heeb made a motion to recommend approval to Council of the Agreement provided the lots be increased to 75' x JJ5 '. Mrs. Zeese seconded. MOTION PASSED 6-1, Chairman Garthwaite voted no. Mr. Mullen made a motion to table the preliminary plat (SD-OJ OJ) for Council's decision regarding the Board's recommendation on the Zoning Agreement. Mr. Masso seconded. MOTION PASSED 7-0. DISCUSSION ITEMS 1. Planning Director's Report Ms. Plaskett informed the Board there will not be a meeting on September 26, 2001 and there may not be a meeting in October. 2. Chairman's Report None at this time. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting adjourned at 9: 1 0 p.m. Minutes respectfully submitted by: Bonnie A. Wenzel Board Secretary Planning & Zoning Board 9-12-01 7