09-25-2006 - Regular
CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 25, 2006
10:45 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Thomas called the Regular Meeting to order at 10:45
p.m. in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Michael Thomas
Councilwoman Debra Rogers
Councilman Dennis Vincenzi
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
Assistant City Attorney Nicholas Palmer
City Manager Jon Williams
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Present
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to
the Flag.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no Minutes to be approved at this time.
3. PRESENTATION/PROCLAMATION/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/DONAT
IONS
There were no Presentations at this time.
4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
There were no Citizen Comments at this time.
5. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Vincenzi had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Rhodes had nothing at this time.
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Councilwoman Lichter had nothing at this time.
Mayor Thomas stated he received a letter from Jeanne
DelNigro asking him to accept her resignation from the MPO
Citizen Advisory Committee due to medical reasons. He
would like to appoint Ferd Heeb.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved approving Ferd Heeb, second by
Councilwoman Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
Councilwoman Rogers had nothing at this time.
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. Public Hearing, Jim Girvan, No Name Saloon, 2001
S. Ridgewood Avenue, requesting a Special
Activity Permit Biketoberfest 2006 events with
outdoor music to be held October 18 through 22,
2006
Development Services Director Darren Lear made a staff
presentation.
Mayor Thomas asked Jim Girvan to approach the podium. He
mentioned not having any problems last year.
Jim Girvan, 2001 S. Ridgewood Avenue, stated by cutting
back the vendors they are going straight across the middle
of the yard. The pudding pit is coming out. The bus is
leaving. One of the stages is leaving. That will be all
parking back there. They will still have a pudding pit but
it will be coming down after the event. He spoke of having
two big events, pudding wrestling and professional
wrestling on Saturday. They are hiring the police for
those events. That is the only two busy days he thinks
they will have.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Lichter moved to approve the Special Activity
Permit for the No Name Saloon for Biketoberfest 2006 events
with outdoor music to be held October 18 through 22, 2006
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based on staff's recommendations, second by Councilwoman
Rogers.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
B. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2006-0-31, Michael Wilde,
agent for Bishop Thomas Wenski, requesting
annexation of 9.97+ acres of property located at
2310 S. Ridgewood Avenue
Assistant City Attorney Palmer read Ord. 2006-0-31 into the
record.
Development Services Director Lear made a staff
presentation.
Mayor Thomas asked the applicant to come forward.
Michael Wilde, Law Firm of Baker Hostetler, 200 S. Orange
Avenue, Orlando, stated they were available to answer any
questions. They support staff's comments.
Mayor Thomas asked what the plans were for the property.
Mr. Wilde informed him they didn't have any plans. They
were approached by the City and they didn't have a problem
with annexing. It's an enclave and it is part of the
policy to incorporate enclaves and they didn't have a
problem with it.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Lichter moved to approve Ord. 2006-0-31,
Michael Wilde, agent for Bishop Thomas Wenski, requesting
annexation of 9.97+ acres of property located at 2310 s.
Ridgewood Avenue, second by Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
C. 1st Reading, Ord. No. 2006-0-33, Mark Karet, agent
for Edgewater Airpark, LLC, requesting annexation
of 0.60~ acres of property located at 1840
Airpark Road
Assistant City Attorney Palmer read Ord. 2006-0-33 into the
record.
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Development Services Director Lear made a staff
presentation.
Mayor Thomas asked the applicant to approach the podium.
Councilwoman Lichter feels that is an excellent use of this
property and that it will be an asset. Councilwoman Rhodes
agreed.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to approve Ord. 2006-0-33, Mark
Karet, agent for Edgewater Airpark, LLC, requesting
annexation of 0.60+ acres of property located at 1840
Airpark Road, second by Councilwoman Ljchter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
D. 1st Reading, Ord. No. 2006-0-34,
amendments/modifications to Ord. No. 99-0-08,
Ord. No. 2000-0-14 and the Police Retirement Plan
City Manager Williams informed Mayor Thomas this item had
been removed.
7. BOARD APPOINTMENTS
A. Economic Development Board:
1) Nomination by Councilman Vincenzi to
fill a seat due to the expired term
of Hugh Sheean, who is not seeking
reappointment
Councilman Vincenzi moved to appoint Robert Overton to the
Economic Development Board, second by Councilwoman Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
2) Nomination by Councilwoman Rhodes to
fill a seat due to the resignation of
Fred Fathi
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to appoint Marcia Barnett, second
by Councilman Vincenzi.
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The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
8. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Victim Advocate Position - staff recommending
approval to renew the grant-funded position of
Victim Advocate for FY 2006-2007 at an annual
salary of $36,082.00
Mayor Thomas asked if that was grant funded or if the City
would be paying that salary now. Police Chief Taves
informed him it is grant funded. City Manager Williams
explained our match is with in-kind services.
Mayor Thomas stated we are getting our moneys worth because
she is doing a good job.
Councilwoman Rogers moved to approve the Consent Agenda,
second by Councilman Vincenzi.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
9. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Frances Drive Stormwater Improvement Project -
staff recommending approval of Notice to Award
bid to Barracuda Building Corporation for the
"Project" in the amount of $115,074 (funded
entirely by CDBG funds) and authorize the Mayor
or City Manager to execute the documents
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to approve the Notice to Award
bid to Barracuda Building Corporation for the UProject" in
the amount of $115,074 (funded entirely by CDBG funds) and
authorize the Mayor or City Manager to execute the
documents for the Frances Drive Stormwater Improvement
Project, second by Councilwoman Rogers.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
B. Water/Wastewater Chemicals - staff recommending
approval of Notice to Award bids to O-N Minerals
(Luttrel) Company for the purpose of High Calcium
Quicklime for an estimated annual expenditure of
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$183,596.00 and to Airgas Carbonic for Liquid
Carbon Dioxide for an estimated cost of
$39,000.00, and authorize Mayor or City Manager
to execute the documents
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Lichter had no problem with this as long as it
isn't fluoride.
Councilwoman Rogers asked where the money was coming from.
City Manager Williams informed her it is part of annual
budget. Ever year we go out for bid for chemicals
associated with treatment. He confirmed this was in the
budget.
Councilwoman Rogers made a motion to approve the Notice to
Award bids to O-N Minerals (Luttrel) Company for the
purpose of High Calcium Quicklime for an estimated annual
expenditure of $183,596.00 and to Airgas Carbonic for
Liquid Carbon Dioxide for an estimated cost of $39,000.00,
and authorize Mayor or City Manager to execute the
documents, second by Councilman Vincenzi.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
C. Interlocal Agreement - staff recommending
approval of an Interlocal Agreement for Water and
Wastewater Services pertaining to Mission Oaks
Mobile Home Park and authorize the Mayor or City
Manager to execute the Agreement
Director of Environmental Services Terry Wadsworth made a
staff presentation.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if they have heard anything
about our CUP from St. John's. Mr. Wadsworth informed her
they were still processing it. They got a couple e-mails
today. It was supposed to be settled as far as the number
allocation by the end of the day. Then they have to create
a Technical Staff Report so they should have that in the
next couple of weeks. Then they get to review that and
respond.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if this would affect the City's
CUP. Mr. Wadsworth informed her no.
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Councilwoman Rogers asked the status of the Oak Leaf
Preserve Subdivision. Mr. Wadsworth stated right now they
are still entertaining some problems with the stormwater
system. The City has not signed off on that. They have
active water. & sewer permits but they haven't met the
requirements for compensating storage for the stormwater
onsite. They are still working on it. They have to meet
the minimum requirements. If they weren't to build, they
have agreed to give us a temporary easement so they could
connect the system ourselves from the point that is off
Massey Road that they did for the Western Reserve Area.
Councilwoman Rogers stated so Mr. Wadsworth was saying they
had a Plan B in place. Mr. Wadsworth informed her they do.
Councilwoman Rogers asked if it was in writing that they
were going to give the City those easements. Mr. Wadsworth
informed her they could get it in writing. They just
talked to them last week because they are way behind
schedule.
Councilwoman Rogers wanted to clarify that because they are
losing lots and their big thing to have that many lots was
so they have a bottom line. She feels if they are losing
lots they aren't going to complete the project. Mr.
Wadsworth stated if they lose enough it won't be profitable
for them. Councilwoman Rogers just wanted to make sure
they get it in writing but felt Mr. Wadsworth had a handle
on it.
Mayor Thomas asked about New Smyrna Utilities already
having lines there. Mr. Wadsworth informed him it started
out as a private development. They went ahead and turned
everything over to the Utilities Commission. It will still
be UC power there. They are still going to receive some
benefit of revenue from it as well. It is a win-win for
everybody in this particular case.
Mayor Thomas stated the lowness of Mission Oaks would not
affect us. Mr. Wadsworth stated they aren't annexing into
the City so they will only be water & sewer customers, not
stormwater customers.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing.
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Councilwoman Lichter moved to approve Interlocal Agreement
for Water and Wastewater Services pertaining to Mission
Oaks Mobile Home Park and authorize the Mayor or City
Manager to execute the Agreement, second by Councilwoman
Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
D. City Manager Agreement - approval of Agreement
City Manager Williams made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Lichter asked Councilman Vincenzi if there
were particular things in there that he felt were important
and he put them in. Councilman Vincenzi stated for one the
benefit plan that he was under. It was one of those, what
he considers excessive plans. City Manager Williams came
up with an alternative that he thought was acceptable,
which was defined contribution plan. The rate the City is
contributing is a little higher than a typical employee. A
typical employee would be about 12%. He requested 16%.
Councilman Vincenzi also commented on the salary. To
partially compensate for the loss in the benefits, the
salary went from $95,000 to $98,000. They talked about the
car allotment verses leasing a car. The costs are
basically the same. He has had comments from citizens
about possibly modifying that to make the City Manager more
accountable with mileage logs and things like that. He
didn't know if this was necessary. The other major
modifications included rewording on some of the conditions
where the terms of the agreement would not be valid. He
wanted to make it more consistent with model contracts that
are out there already. He feels it is a decent contract.
Councilman Vincenzi mentioned what he thought was a type-o
on Page 5 under Indemnification with regard to willful or
wanton conduct. He questioned if it should be misconduct
instead. Assistant City Attorney Palmer elaborated.
Councilwoman Rogers stated the salary to go from $95,000 to
$98,000 she didn't have a problem with that initially. The
defined contribution plan at 16%, she is aware he is a City
Manager but what she has a concern with is that when the
Interim City Manager contract was negotiated he not only
received the defined benefit plan at 24% he also received
an additional 10% that went into a defined contribution
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plan. Effectively he was getting 34%. Other City Managers
not all of them, but some of them, also receive retirement
benefits in two plans. When she went back and looked at
that the average of those two or three between two
different plans, they were getting 16 to 18%. In the past
five months our City Manager has been getting 24% plus 10%
which is 34%. In all fairness, she would think the salary
should be at $95,000. He received a benefit that was more
than any City Manager in Volusia County. They can say just
let him be at $95,000, let him have his 16%. The 10% isn't
mentioned in the new contract but he has still had that
benefit for five months.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated but he also got less than any
other City Manager. Councilwoman Rogers stated he also
doesn't have the experience that other City Managers have.
He is getting on the job training and getting paid very
well for it.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated they approved the contract. To
punish him now for something they did is wrong.
Councilwoman Rogers disagreed because not one of the
Council was aware of the item in the Interim City Manager
contract and when she pointed it out the night they decided
he would be the City Manager with holding this contract
negotiation, not one person made a comment about it. They
did not see it.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated even at $98,000 he is the lowest
paid City Manager in this County. Councilwoman Rogers
asked if they were arguing or is she trying to talk.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated they are arguing. Councilwoman
Rogers stated $95,000. Councilwoman Rhodes stated they are
discussing.
Councilwoman Lichter asked Councilwoman Rogers if she was
making a motion to that affect.
Councilwoman Rogers made a motion to accept the contract
with the exception of his salary being at $95,000.
City Manager Williams stated he has to be acceptable to
that and he informed her he was not.
Councilwoman Rhodes again stated he is the lowest paid City
Manager in this County. He is not experienced, however, he
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has many years with the City and he does know the business
of the City.
Councilwoman Lichter thinks in many ways he has more
experience because he has been in every department and
worked his way up to this position. She stated very often
you get someone from out of town that doesnlt understand
the City and she feels they have someone that has gone up
the ladder. She is very pleased with him.
Councilwoman Rogers stated she made the one comment because
he went from $75/000 to $95/0001 now to go to $98/000
because he has taken a different type of retirement plan.
She said he already got the benefit because of the 10% for
the past five months. Why do they turn around and give him
another raise when he already got a raise. Let him get a
raise next year.
Mayor Thomas opened up the public hearing.
The following citizen spoke:
Linda Small I 1629 willow Oak Drivel asked if they could
quantify for them the total financial value of City Manager
Williams package. She asked to be told one number that
City Manager Williams is going to cost the City for the
next year.
City Manager Williams didn't know off the top of his head.
Ms. Small felt the citizens are entitled to know that
number.
Finance Director Brett Tanner went to get the actual
payroll budget itself.
City Manager Williams stated he was okay with Councilman
Vincenzi/s recommended language regarding misconduct.
Mayor Thomas applauded the citizens that bore with them to
the last. He appreciated that.
City Manager Williams stated the total expense budgeted for
him was $140/464.51. He then broke this amount down into
individual items.
Mayor Thomas closed the public hearing.
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Councilman Vincenzi made a motion to accept the City
Manager's contract as negotiated, second by Councilwoman
Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
10. OFFICER REPORTS
A. City Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time.
B. Assistant City Attorney Palmer had nothing at
this time.
C. City Manager Williams
City Manager Williams commented on the article recently in
the newspaper referencing the sand pile. He has provided
the Mayor and Council with the e-mail communication he has
had wit Mr. Roach, the Executive Director for FIND. In his
e-mail he has described that he has made an error and that
the sale of that dirt is not available. The reason being
is they have removed those items from State sovereign lands
and if they were to sell that property, then the State
would get the proceeds of the sale. They have sent their
attorney's opinion to get our attorney's opinion because
his conversation with the Executive Director, he has asked
whether or not their attorney would be open to discussion
if the City could get a separate opinion out of Foley to
describe something different. They said they would. They
have sent that opinion to the Attorney General's office to
get his opinion. If he comes back and feels they can sell
it we may be back in business. Otherwise they have to
petition and lobby for the law to be changed and then if
successful we may have the opportunity to pursue
acquisition of the sand and ultimately sell it.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if they had any non-profit use
that they might be able to put it to, like at one of the
parks. City Manager Williams stated they could use it for
public purpose. They have tried to think out of the box a
little bit and how they can tag that for total public use
and acquire it through that and they are still formulating
ideas.
City Manager Williams stated he has provided Council with
an evaluation checklist for their review. This is just a
sample. He likes to reference the ICMA website a lot. On
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that website they provide sample evaluation checklists.
There is an evaluation tool out there that he is not very
well rehearsed on at this point. He would like the
opportunity to do that and bring it back to be used
referencing himself.
City Manager Williams stated pursuant to the agreement
Council executed he has sent in his application to become a
member of the ICMA and he certainly will use that resource
with due diligence. If Council is happy with what they
have before them tonight, not necessarily to do it tonight,
that they should set very quickly a goal setting session
for himself and incorporate that into the evaluation
checklist and then they can begin trying to achieve those
goals. Per the agreement, he has to provide Council with
an update on whether or not he can achieve those goals
within the time period they have specified. He has to do
that within six months or a March and April time frame. He
is very eager to understand what Council's goals are for
him and if they would like they can bring it back for the
meeting in October. It is Council's pleasure.
City Manager Williams asked if they wanted to bring that
back in October. Mayor Thomas stated yeah.
11. CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
There were no Citizen Comments/Correspondence at this time.
A. Tentative Agenda Items
There were no Tentative Agenda Items to be discussed at
this time.
12. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman
Rhodes moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 11:28
p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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