12-19-1984 - Workshop
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
WORKSHOP OF DECEMBER 19, 1984
MINUTES
Mayor Baugh called the Workshop session to order at 3:00 P.M. in the
Community Center. He stated the items on the agenda to be discussed.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Earl Baugh
Councilman Louis Rotundo
Councilman Russell Prater
Councilman Neil Asting
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Councilman James Inman
City Attorney Jose' Alvarez
City Clerk Connie Kinsey
Police Chief Douglas Betts
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Planning & Zoning Board's recommendation re: re-zoning property on Guava and
Hibiscus from 20th to 30th Streets from B-2 to I-I - City Attorney Alvarez
reviewed the request from Planning and Zoning to rezone a section of the City
from Business to Industrial and said he needed guidance from this Council to
proceed. He noted that the areas in question adjoin Residential R-4 and some
businesses could be conflicting to a residential area. He added that according
to the February 15th meeting of Planning and Zoning, it appears that the ware-
houses were the motivating factor of why this came about. He pointed out that
there has been an amendment to this section in the past for this portion of the
City and additional uses have been added but zoning was not changed. He said
the B-2 zoning district intent is to provide neighborhood small retail types
of business to adjoin nearby residential areas. He noted that this rezoning
request is not based on a voluntary petition by property owners, but initiated
by the governing body or its designee, which is Planning and Zoning in this
instance. He said the procedures are different than when it's voluntarily
petitioned. He noted that it involves about 1% of the City. City Clerk Kinsey
added that there are about 350 land owners involved. City Attorney Alvarez
pointed out that they would all have to be notified individually and they can
attend a hearing if they wish.
Mayor Baugh said he looked at the zoning map and reviewed this with the City
Clerk and this is the only area that's zoned B-2 and asked what it would entail
to add to B-2 instead of changing it to I-I and amending the ordinance. City
Attorney Alvarez replied that it's an alternative and has been done in the past.
There was a discussion about the shops that are in that area now. Mrs. Gigi
Bennington, former Council member, noted that they'd amended the permitted uses
and took the mini-warehouses out of B-2 except for storage. Mayor Baugh
suggested rather than going to the expense of changing the zoning it might be
to their advantage to add to, rather than change it, plus it would take less
time and effort. Councilman Prater said he agreed and asked City Attorney
Alvarez if they can do that. City Attorney Alvarez replied yes. Councilman
Rotundo asked if it follows the guidelines of the Comprehensive Plan and Mayor
Baugh replied yes, because it was taken into the plan when it was developed,
and the zoning was in the five-year plan, and they'd just be adding to the
Permitted Uses there. Councilman Rotundo pointed out that they can control
what goes in there. Mayor Baugh agreed and said a lot of things in the I-I
zoning are very noisy and they can control what goes there. There was a dis-
cussion about an electronic components shop that had been located there.
Mr. Ed Hall, Jr. asked what is allowed there now as he was confused as to
what can go in B-3 Permitted Uses. City Clerk Kinsey noted that the Code
was amended and the update isn't in the book yet. Mr. Ron Lucas asked if
they keep the zoning the same if it would keep the setbacks and percentages
the same and just change some of the uses. Mayor Baugh clarified that it
would add the uses to it.
Councilman Inman said he agreed with Councilman Rotundo that if they modify
the ordinance they can control it much better and they'll have public hearings
on this.
Mayor Baugh asked what requests had been received to add to it and City
Clerk Kinsey replied that she was only aware of the request from Planning
and Zoning and Mr. Lucas and Mr. Hall, Jr. had discussed some ideas with her.
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Mrs. Bennington noted that the problem with B-2 now is that it's supposed
to be a neighborhood business and with the railroad tracks there and the
conditions of those roads, it's hard for a business to thrive. She noted
that some of the warehouses were converted to manufacturing and she suggested
they change the B-2 from neighborhood business to something else there for
light industrial manufacturing. She added that it's not being policed there
and things are being put in that shouldn't be there. Councilman Prater said
they should stay with what they have rather than changing it.
Mayor Baugh noted that if they change it to 1-1 they could have industry
come in right behind where the R-4 is abutting it. Councilman Prater recalled
an instance on Hibiscus where they had spray drifting over to a house from
paint and it was to be a storage-office space.
Councilman Inman said he didn't sympathize when someone buys property along-
side an airport and then complains about the noise, but he'd be upset if
something with a high noise level came in after the homes were there.
Mayor Baugh asked City Attorney Alvarez if they can just leave it as it is and
add to it and City Attorney Alvarez replied there's no problem with it and
if it's Council's consensus, he'd suggest referring it back to the Planning
Board with Council's determination and ask them to address the specific
problems. Councilman Rotundo asked if they'd have to get it changed if
someone came in with a light industry request and City Attorney Alvarez
said it's according to the nature of the business and if it's a permitted
use or a permitted special exception, but if it's a special exception, they'll
have to go to the Board of Adjustments. He added that if it's not listed in
the B-2 zoning or the new amendment, then they're in the wrong district and
they need to go to another district where the business can be allowed.
Councilman Rotundo noted that they don't want to get into spot zoning, and
the location is ideal for light industry because of access to the railroad
tracks but there are homes there also, and they would need a buffer for the
noise.
Mr. Lucas pointed out that on permitted uses they have manufacturing shops in
there and asked if they would be incorporated, if the zoning isn't changed.
He referred to a cabinet shop that's located there. There was a discussion
about the manufacturing and/or sales from that location. City Clerk Kinsey
noted that under the mini-shops it allows preparing on the premises.
Mrs. Bennington noted that under the new permitted uses, they can have
light manufacturing if it doesn't exceed three employees. Mayor Baugh
asked that Council members be given a copy of the new ordinance.
Mr. Hall, Jr. suggested instead of adding uses to B-3 it would be much
better to notify all the people that they're going to change it and have
the meetings and change it. He added that there's a lot of land there
and not very many businesses and more businesses would bring revenue to
the City. He suggested they get the public in and see what they say.
Councilman Rotundo said he thinks they'll turn it down.
Mayor Baugh said they'll proceed with adding to instead of changing it.
Councilman Rotundo suggested they ask Planning and Zoning why they wanted
it rezoned to start with. There was a discussion of the minutes of the
Planning and Zoning Board meeting in which the action was taken.
Councilman Rotundo suggested a joint meeting with Planning and Zoning on
this. Councilman Inman agreed they need to get their input. Mayor Baugh
said they can bring it up at the next regular meeting to call a Special
Meeting or Workshop with Council and the Planning and Zoning Board to
go over this and come to some type of agreement. Council members agreed
with this.
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December 20, 1984
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South Florida Natural Gas Co. franchise renewal - City Attorney Alvarez
recalled that the former Council had directed him to negotiate a 20-year
franchise agreement with South Florida Natural Gas but he wanted to get
the instructions from this Council if they want him to proceed. Councilman
Rotundo asked City Attorney Alvarez if he's satisfied with the agreement
presented by South Florida and City Attorney Alvarez replied no, but he
didn't want to get into negotiations until discussing this with Council.
Mayor Baugh asked the time frame involved. Mr. Bill Sherman, Attorney
for South Florida, and Mr. Bob Morgan, Vice President of South Florida,
were present. Mr. Sherman pointed out that the franchise is the same as
the previous one except that previously they had to have a referendum vote
but that was changed to save the public money and the rate structure is
regulated by the Public Service Commission.
Mayor Baugh suggested to Council that they have the City Attorney, a repre-
sentative of Council, and the City Clerk as a negotiating team. City
Attorney Alvarez compared the franchise to a landlord renting a property,
and said he'd like it as an agreement between the two parties similar to the
one with the Cable TV company.
Mr. Jack Spencer, former Council member, pointed out that the negotiations
with Florida Power & Light Company and the City made a big difference because
in the past the industries weren't subject to the franchise tax.
City Attorney Alvarez said he'd like this to be a non-exclusive franchise,
and he'd like the authority to continue with the assignment but would like
the meetings to be open so the Sunshine Law won't be violated.
Mayor Baugh said he'd rather have open meetings also and the City Clerk would
be able to give Council input from the meetings. City Attorney Alvarez noted
that during the labor negotiations it was helpful when Council members came
in and observed.
Mayor Baugh suggested that Councilman Prater serve on the negotiations and
asked when they could begin negotiating. City Attorney Alvarez replied
it would be after the first of the year and they'll arrange the calendars
and proceed, and he has some papers to pass on to Mr. Sherman, but the non-
exclusive is one of his main concerns. Mr. Sherman stated that it was no
problem since it's natural gas and that would be immaterial.
Mayor Baugh asked when the old franchise expired and Mr. Sherman replied
that it was November 4th but it won't affect the service to the citizens but
they'll have a problem with the lending institutions if they want to expand
or for borrowing because the franchise is a pledge of the assets. Mr. Morgan
noted that franchising permits are needed.
Mayor Baugh asked Councilman Prater if he'll accept as a negotiator and
Councilman Prater agreed. Mr. Morgan asked if the negotiating team can
finalize it and Mayor Baugh replied that they'll have to bring it back to
Council with a recommendation.
Councilman Rotundo asked how soon the negotiations can begin since the next
meeting is January 7th. Mayor Baugh pointed out that the negotiating team can
negotiate and bring the recommendations to Council for the 7th. City
Attorney Alvarez stated that he'll remain as the negotiator and a member of
Council and the City Clerk will sit in. Councilman Rotundo said he just
wanted it to be legal. Mayor Baugh said they can have it on the 7th if it's
ready, and if not, they can have a short Special Meeting for this purpose.
Council members and the South Florida Gas Company representatives agreed to
this.
Councilman Inman moved to adjourn, and City Attorney Alvarez requested a
short delay for discussion of an item with him.
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December 20, 1984
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City Attorney Alvarez asked Council members individually if they had
any reasons why he shouldn't continue as City Attorney.
Councilman Rotundo replied no.
Councilman Inman replied no, and he'd explained to him the other day that
he hadn't done anything derogatory to him but he does think his fees are
a little too high. City Attorney Alvarez explained that his books are open
for review at any time. Councilman Inman noted that he's concerned that the
amount of money the City is spending is taxpayers' money, but he's not
questioning the books and feels they're in order.
City Attorney Alvarez explained the number of hours required to handle the
business for the City and said about 70% of his time is devoted to City
matters, and he'd like to give some time to private practice.
Councilman Prater said he's been well satisfied since he's been on Council
but prior to that when he was on the Citizen Code Enforcement Board, he
felt he was let down. City Attorney Alvarez noted that they're looking at
1985. Councilman Prater said he'll sweep that under the carpet and thinks
he's done a wonderful job since he's been on Council and he's satisfied to
this point but he feels an apology is in order for the letdown. City Attorney
Alvarez said they discussed that and he made it clear that he was sorry that
he didn't let him know previously. He added that it hasn't been an easy two
years and the City has faced some enormous problems and gone through changes
of Mayor and administrators plus referendums and the case loads could have
kept two attorneys busy as of six months ago but the litigation has declined
and they'll see a change in that. He referred to the pending Caldwell case
where re-zoning occurred and said he feels they should prevail in this matter
but anything can happen when it goes to a jury.
Mayor Baugh pointed out that this wasn't on the agenda for this Workshop and
City Attorney Alvarez explained that he's just expressing his opinion to
Council and it's not for discussion. He suggested a monthly workshop with
Council to discuss pending matters, assignments, and litigation.
Councilman Inman moved to adjourn. Councilmen Prater and Rotundo seconded the
motion simultaneously. Workshop was adjourned at 3:58 P.M.
Minutes submitted by:
Lura Sue Koser
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December 20, 1984