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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
SPECIAL MEETING AND WORKSHOP
NOVEMBER 7, 1985
MINUTES
Mayor Baugh called the meeting to order at 1:30 P.M. in the Community Center.
He stated the items on the agenda.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Earl Baugh
Councilman Louis Rotundo
Councilman Russell Prater
Councilman Neil Asting
Present
Present
Present
Present
Councilman James Inman
City Attorney Jose'Alvarez
City Clerk Connie Martinez
Chief Lawrence Schumaker
Present
Present
Present
Excused
Also present were Mr. David Garrett, Recreation Director/Buildings and Grounds
Maintenance Superintendent; Mr. Gary Schad, Town & Country Insurance agent;
Mr. Dennis Fischer, Building Official/Code Enforcement Officer; and Mr. David
Jones, Assistant Code Enforcement Officer. Arriving later was Mr. Alex Kish of
the Brent Millikan & Co. auditing firm.
Mayor Baugh requested a motion to go into the Workshop and Councilman Asting so
moved. Councilman Inman seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Baugh suggested a short recess until the auditor arrives. Meeting was
recessed at 1:32 P.M. and called back to order by Mayor Baugh at 1:35 P.M.
Fence Ordinance
City Attorney Alvarez asked Mr. Fischer if he'd reviewed the proposed changes from
Planning and Zoning. Mr. Fischer said he looked at it but didn't totally review
it and there are some areas he needs to review further. He said people in commercial
areas have asked for higher limits and he feels they could go to 8 foot because he
doesn't think it's high enough for a compound area. He added that the definition
of opaque and concrete needs to be clarified. City Attorney Alvarez pointed out
the confusion on that was due to the interpretation of a prior Building Official.
Councilman Rotundo asked if the 8 foot fence would be wood and Mr. Fischer suggested
it be chain link with a possible barbed top tilting inward. Councilman Rotundo
suggested they specify not wood. City Attorney Alvarez pointed out the suggestion
is up to 8 foot and there's nothing about the material to be used. Councilman
Asting referred to page 3 and suggested they state 8 foot if they want it.
Councilman Inman pointed out the prohibition in the Code regarding barbed wire.
Councilman Asting agreed there's a conflict. There was a discussion about the
barbed wire and the security it offers. City Attorney Alavarez suggested they
could specify it be except as allowed in commercial zones or except as provided
in Section 706.03. Councilman Rotundo asked if they have to specify it be not of
wood construction, and City Attorney Alvarez said they could specify what type
it should be. There was discussion about the wood fences, cement block and chain
link. City Attorney Alvarez pointed out they may want cypress fences in some
commercial areas. Mayor Baugh suggested it could be a fence exceeding 6 foot
shall be erected out of iron or block in a commercial zone. Councilman Asting
noted an 8 foot fence with barbed wire would be more security, and Mayor Baugh
stated that it won't be as attractive in a business zone and they should have
exceptions made for it. Councilman Asting said they could give them the option
of putting the barbed wire on top. Councilman Rotundo questioned the finished
surface on the block and Mr. Fischer said it's painting and stucco.
City Attorney Alvarez said they should address the height and the clear or
opaque surface and leave the language as is at the Building Official's discretion.
Mr. Fischer stated that fences for swimming pools aren't in the fence ordinance
now. He added that they can strike the barbed wire with minimum 6 foot and
maximum of 8 foot if they want to. City Attorney Alvarez pointed out that the
barbed wire won't deter people and will cause injuries. Councilman Inman expressed
his concern with barbed wire on top of the 6 foot fence.
Mr. Alex Kish arrived at this time, 1:48 P.M.
Mr. Jones said it would be a good idea to have barbed wire for storage facilities
but not for all commercial property, and 8 foot fences in all commercial property.
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There was a discussion about the visibility triangle fence. Mr. Fischer
said he felt it should read 50 foot. City Attorney Alvarez pointed out the
sketch shows 20 feet and it's too close to the intersection. Mayor Baugh
suggested it be 50 foot instead of 20 and City Attorney Alvarez suggested it
be 20 foot from driveways. There was a discussion about the distance it would
be from the road's edge.
City Attorney Alvarez pointed out they have 60 days to comply with swimming
pools in 706.06 and Mayor Baugh said he doesn't think there are many that
don't have fences now. Mr. Fischer noted that when they do find them, they're
above ground. Councilman Rotundo asked if they need a permit for above ground
pools and Mr. Fischer asked the difference between swimming pools and wading pools.
City Attorney Alvarez suggested that he and Mr. Fischer discuss this further.
Mayor Baugh agreed they can submit it back to Council.
Councilman Asting suggested they discuss insurance matters next for the convenience
of the people present, but it was decided to proceed with model homes.
Model Home Ordinance
City Attorney Alvarez said he reviewed this and recommends they allow the
erection of model homes only as part of the subdivision ordinance in a sub-
division. He added that the Board can control where they'll be located.
Mayor Baugh asked if it will state that when the development is completed,
that model home shall be sold and not limit it as a model home. City Attorney
Alvarez replied yes, because when the lots are sold, it's purpose is finished.
Mr. Fischer stated that it's usually at the entrance to the subdivision and
asked if contents and amount of work to be done there and definition of open
house is included. There was a discussion about the model homes and display
homes. Councilman Asting asked if an open house can be used asan office to sell
the unit. City Attorney Alvarez said it's when the realtor has the house open
for inspection to sell it and they don't have to restrict open houses, but they
don't have offices and staff there. Mayor Baugh pointed out that the open house
is for that particular house.
City Attorney Alvarez said they need to define that concept of open house and
model homes and allow model homes only in the subdivision, to be approved by
Planning and Zoning for site plan approval. Mayor Baugh asked if this is for
new subdivisions and City Attorney Alvarez replied yes. Councilman Rotundo
suggested they have an open house time limit and City Attorney Alvarez said yes,
in the definitions. Mr. Fischer pointed out that most open houses are on the
week-ends and Mayor Baugh suggested a 3-day maximum. Mr. Fischer pointed out
they sometimes take awhile to sell and asked if it could be open house every
week-end. Councilman Asting asked about auctions and Mayor Baugh said it's a
one-day deal. Councilman Rotundo noted that there are two homes on Indian River
Boulevard that have been model homes for years, and asked what they're doing
about it. Mr. Fischer replied he's been waiting for an ordinance and only
one of the two has a person in it. City Attorney Alvarez pointed out that if
the open house is used to sell similar houses, then it's a model home as the
open house is to sell that particular home. He added that week-ends would be
less traffic. Councilman Rotundo suggested a 30, 60, or 90 day time limit and
Mayor Baugh commented that sometimes they don't sell that quickly. City
Attorney Alvarez stated that an open house should be manned by a realtor or a
broker.
Mr. Jones asked about the signs for open houses with directional signs and
Mayor Baugh pointed out they can't have them now, and the open house signs can
only be on private property. Mr. Jones stated they're only allowed the one
sign at the point of sale. Councilman Prater said they have to cut down where
they're using them just for sales offices now.
Fire Lane/Parking Ordinance
City Attorney Alvarez reviewed that the Fire Department members had seen
violators in the fire lanes of the shopping center and he'd prepared an
ordinance but questions came up regarding the requirement of fire lanes in
the Code and they adopted the Southern Standard Building Code but have not
adopted the 10 chapters of the National Fire Code which is the one the State
Statutes and the Fire Marshall have adopted.
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Fire Lane/Parking Ordinance (Continued)
City Attorney Alvarez said he can include that in the ordinance but prohibiting
parking in fire lanes brings up the question of requiring fire lanes to be
installed and where, and what procedure is to be used to collect the fines.
He pointed out the disability parking is using the uniform traffic citation for
a ticket but to enforce this, they'll need a ticket system. He asked if Council
wants to go also to a parking ordinance in shopping centers and subdivisions.
Councilman Rotundo asked if they'd have to get permission from the property
owners in the shopping center and City Attorney Alvarez said by the subdivision
ordinance they'd require that fire lanes be provided and David Jones would do
that. Councilman Rotundo asked about the existing ones and City Attorney
Alvarez replied that he thought they were voluntarily put in, but they have to
have a law before they have a violation. Mayor Baugh suggested they have the
fire lanes as part of the Code. City Attorney Alvarez asked about residential
development and Council members agreed no. City Attorney Alvarez asked about
multi-family being required with high density. Mr. Jones stated they need a
fire lane so the apparatus can get to the building without obstructions in the
way. Mayor Baugh asked where they'd have it and where they'd park their cars
and Mr. Jones said it's a 20 foot lane if it's above two stories. Mayor Baugh
suggested it be anything over three stories. Mr. Fischer said anything that
needs the aerial truck service or over two stories could be designated, and
they look at access as part of the review now. City Attorney Alvarez noted
that some codes are very extensive and some cover over 30 foot in height and
Enforcement is responsible and the Fire Official.
City Clerk Martinez pointed out there was a request from Dennis Fischer and
David Jones on the Fire Marshall position. Mr. Jones read from what the City
of Orlando had adopted which stated the Fire Marshall determines the fire lanes.
Councilman Rotundo suggested the signs be furnished by the City and billed
to whoever owns the building. Mayor Baugh said they can get their own signs.
City Clerk Martinez said they have to get that before they have their final
inspection. There was a discussion about the signs already posted.
City Attorney Alvarez asked about enforcement and said if they established a
position of Fire Marshall, Mr. Jones could be an agent of the State Fire Marshall
but he's not sure of the title. Mr. Jones stated that every Code book refers
to a designated Fire Chief or Fire Marshall in the cities. City Clerk Martinez
said they need to clarify the job description for it.
City Attorney Alvarez next brought up the setting up of tickets and City Clerk
Martinez said it could be an internal policy for collections. Mayor Baugh
stated the Police Department could enforce it in the new developments, and the
Fire Marshall could take an officer with him because he doesn't have the
authority to enforce it. Mr. Jones noted that Life Safety says Police or
other law enforcement agencies as required by the Fire Official can enforce.
Mayor Baugh asked about the regular parking and City Attorney Alvarez suggested
they start with fire lanes and go on to the other parking, and they could go
with fire lanes and fire hydrants and other types of parking. Mayor Baugh
said the areas where parking is prohibited should be included. City Attorney
Alvarez noted it will be two separate ordinances, one to adopt the requirements
of fire lanes as part of the subdivision ordinance, and another for the parking
violations separate from fire lanes and parking violations for fire lanes,
hydrants, and other designated prohibited areas, with enforcement by the
Police Department. City Attorney Alvarez asked about the fines amount and
Mayor Baugh noted that Daytona Beach has it. City Attorney Alvarez pointed out
they need to consider the severity in enforcement of the laws and if they don't
pay the fines, they can take them to County Court. Councilman Asting asked what
would happen if the person contests it and City Attorney Alvarez replied it would
go to court, and the officer who issues the ticket has to testify as to details.
Mayor Baugh noted that it doesn't go on the driver's license as points.
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Insurance Matters
Councilman Asting stated he's concerned about the amount because it wasn't
budgeted for this tremendous increase and he talked to the accountant and
it was brought out that perhaps they could get some type of deductible policy
with $100,000. deductible. He asked Mr. Schad if the City could go out for
bids on it. Mr. Schad said the insurance industry is going through turmoil and
the cause is the judicial system. He added that with self-insurance, every
program is self-insured to a degree, and they can elect how much to self-insure.
He suggested they get an insurance risk manager to look at the situation and
tell them if they can afford to be self-insured and for what amount. He noted
that he used to be able to negotiate premiums and now they have to ask if
they'll insure.
Councilman Asting said he heard of another way to go and asked if they could
just get the umbrella insurance and the State has set a limit on it. Mr. Kish
said it used to be a $100,000 limit but he doesn't know now. City Attorney
Alvarez reviewed the history of the suing of municipalities and the cap set for
limits that can be collected, with the balance going through the State Claims
bill. He noted that self-insurance is a deductible and some municipalities have
gone to $100,000 and $200,000 self-insured retainers and are responsible for
paying those amounts and above that they can have an umbrella or they can go
naked and it's up to the legislature to make a decision on an award. He
added that only one claim bill involving a municipality was filed between
1975 and 1982.
Councilman Asting said he talked with Karen Rickelman regarding the finances
and it looks like they'll end the fiscal year with a surplus of approximately
$660,000. He asked Mr. Kish for confirmation of this figure, and noted they
want to keep the reserve at about $300,000 for emergencies. He asked if they
could use this for a self-insured program. Mr. Kish said he didn't have the
balance with him and they can use it for anything they want. Mr. Kish said
there are a number of alternatives and one is to consider having an insurance
advisor look at it before they enter into a self-insurance program and pay him
his fee to determine the insurance needs. He added this should be done about
every 3 or 4 years to evaluate the program, as they can determine the risks to
a certain degree. He noted they can get alternatives such as co-insurance with
a deductible, but they need to get the self-insurance liability checked out to
make sure they're in the position to do that.
Councilman Asting asked what's being held in reserve for pending lawsuits.
City Attorney Alvarez replied $50,000. Mr. Schad noted there's $20,000 on
reserve for the stop signs case. City Attorney Alvarez explained they have
$50,000 reserved because there was no coverage on the Montesano case and the
figure is a reserve for claims in case they have to pay it out. Councilman
Asting asked what the insurance company is holding back in reserve and Mr.
Schad said he doesn't have the figure with him but the claims are small.
City Attorney Alvarez pointed out that the reserve is a highly confidential
matter.
Mayor Baugh asked the premium reduction for the $100,000 - $200,000 insurance
and Mr. Schad replied it would be 20 to 25% and self-insurance plans can be
set up that will help in the future, but won't help this year. Councilman
Asting noted that's where the $300,00 they're holding in reserve could be used.
Mayor Baugh pointed out that a couple of claims could use it. Mr. Schad stated
that it's very difficult to get an umbrella policy at the present time, and
insurance runs in cycles.
Mayor Baugh stated that Florida League of Cities has a plan similar to this
and a lot of municipalities are in it and it's less cost-wise than going
through an agent. He added that FLOC bases the premiums on the losses of
about 100 cities. City Attorney Alvarez noted that it could be detrimental
if they're in with certain other cities, and he reviewed the process used by
Florida League. Mr. Schad noted that if self-insurance is set at $300,000 and
a claim is over that, they will demand a risk manager to handle the claim and
it has to be someone they approve.
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Insurance Matters (Continued)
City Attorney Alvarez said for self-insurance to those limits they're saying
instead of paying the premium and having an adjuster, an investigator, and
manager handling the claims, they're going to handle their own claims and
make the decision. He said to secure the umbrella, the person who has it
will make sure that the procedures they have undertaken to settle or litigate
the claims are acceptable to the agency, and they have to determine the
past history of the type of claims of routine negligence, false arrest, etc.
Councilman Rotundo asked if they put$300,OOO into the account and are sued for
$500,000, where does the $200,000 come from. City Attorney Alvarez pointed
out they'll also have attorneys' fees, and the umbrella is up to the limits and
anything over that will be covered. Councilman Rotundo asked what would happen
if they forget insurance altogether and keep the $300,000 in the account.
City Attorney Alvarez said it would have to go to Tallahassee to ask the legis-
lature to pay the rest of the money. Councilman Asting asked if they went for
the $200,000 deductible, what would that save. Councilman Rotundo answered it
would only save 20%. Mr. Schad said he doesn't think they can get a company to
cover it and the first of January they're going to rewrite all the liability
policies. Mr. Kish stated that the Statutes say the City can't be responsible
for assuming more than $200,000. City Attorney Alvarez noted that some cities
are doing that, but they'd better make sure they have good, competent staff to
handle the claims and a good safety program and regulations are followed.
Councilman Rotundo noted that people know the cities are covered and they're
going to the maximum, and he asked if they can put a cap on it. Mr. Schad
pointed out the cities are carrying the high limits. Mr. Schad again suggested
they talk to a competent risk manager.
City Clerk Martinez asked about the status of the current policies. City
Attorney Alvarez replied that something has to be done to continue the policies
and asked how they could setupa good system of self-insurance. Councilman
Prater asked if they can pay the premium monthly until this is settled.
Mr. Schad noted the money can be rebated if they don't use it but it's higher
on a monthly basis. Councilman Prater asked if they can be penalized if they
pay monthly and Mr. Schad said if they continue it to January 1st they'll
pay finance charges on monthly payments, and they pay a 10% penalty on the
unused balance of the policy. Mr. Kish asked if the City had contacted Adjustco
and City Clerk Martinez replied they have to go out on bids. City Attorney
Alvarez pointed out that the last time they went out on bids, Gary Schad
beat their prices. Councilman Rotundo asked if just a portion of the money
could be released to show good faith and City Clerk Martinez replied that
it's Council's decision. City Attorney Alvarez noted the issue is how much
the Council will release to keep the coverage and what steps they want to
undertake to consider the feasibility of self-insurance and in house.
Councilman Asting suggested they release to January 1st and in the meantime
get in touch with an insurance consultant to come in and analzye the
self-insurance situation and make recommendations and then Council will
decide on what to do. Mr. Schad pointed out he won't have the premiums until
January 1st and a quarter is more than one-fourth of the annual premium.
Councilman Rotundo suggested they release $30,000 and Mr. Schad stated that
the company will release the City. Councilman Asting noted that if they
release the City, it will force them to go to self-insurance. Mayor Baugh
agreed it will force them to do something, but added that he's not sure that
self-insurance is the way to go.
Councilman Asting said he can't see paying out $213,000 and they only pay
claims amounts of $50,000 to $75,000 with the rest of the money in someone
else's pocket, and he thinks the first step is to get a risk manager and
pay to the first of the year. There was a clarification of a risk manager
and an insurance consultant. Mr. Schad stated that Jack Mullen is risk manager
for Volusia County. City Clerk Martinez asked if they have to go out for bids
to obtain this consultant and City Attorney Alvarez suggested getting free
preliminary information. Mr. Kish said it would be in the best interest to
pursue this as fast as possible. Councilman Asting asked if there'd be a
problem with self-insurance and Mr. Kish replied no, they'd set up a separate
operating fund and finance it through regular premiums~
Mr. Schad suggested they go with monthly premiums if they can to January 1st.
Mr. Schad, Mr. Kish, and City Attorney Alvarez left the meeting at this time,
3:20 P.M. Meeting was recessed for a short time.
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Bike Path
Councilman Asting stated they got the permit from the County to go ahead
with the bike path and they might have the Public Works Department go ahead
and fill the road in and put the bridges in and pouring of the cement and
the forms could be done by a contractor. He added that the City will have
to buy the lumber if we do it. He suggested they get a price from a concrete
contractor and he thought it could be poured and smoothed out for 20C and
Councilman Rotundo agreed, and said it's for grading and setting the forms and
they have to have a depth of 3~" for the concrete. Councilman Asting said
he doesn't want to take Public Works off the road work and the incinerator.
Councilman Rotundo noted they won't need that many men to set forms and it's
easy to do, and will take 3 men about 10 days. Councilman Rotundo reviewed
the process of grading, filling, etc. Councilman Asting asked if Public
Works should do it and Councilman Rotundo suggested both departments.
Councilman Asting pointed out all the work the Public Works Department has
with the roads. Councilman Rotundo noted that the grass mowing will slow down
which will free up some men. Mayor Baugh said he'd asked Earl Copeland if he
could build it and he said he had no problems with it. Councilman Rotundo
said he wants to keep the cost estimate of $36,000 down.
Frank Roe, from the audience, asked if the City is responsible for automobiles
as there'll be a lot of building going on and it's on the north side now.
He stated that there are 30 to 35 people will use it so it will be an expendi-
ture of $1,000 a youngster. He said the people in the subdivision have to
assume some of the responsibility and it's not up to Council to provide it.
There was a discussion about the liability of the City. Mr. Roe referred to
the bike path in New Smyrna Beach and how it was constructed.
Councilman Rotundo pointed out that the bike path committee is planning to
have a bike path on Indian River Boulevard.
Mayor Baugh suggested they contact Earl Copeland and possibly David Garrett
can do it. Mr. Garrett agreed he has some who can do it. Mayor Baugh said
he'd like to do it in-house and Councilman Asting agreed, if they can do it.
Councilman Rotundo noted they're getting an outsider for pouring the concrete.
Councilman Asting said he's concerned with the work loads in the departments.
Councilman Rotundo reviewed how the concrete has to be finished to State speci-
fications.
Councilman Prater asked if there are rental companies with rental forms and
Mr. Garrett said he doesn't know of any.
Councilman Rotundo suggested when they get the bids they can get the price for
complete with forming and one just for pouring the concrete, so it would be
two separate bids. City Clerk Martinez advised that Gerry Ferrara is going to
bring a contractor to give them a proposal of what it will cost before they
go out for bids. Mr. Garrett said they can figure out what it will cost for
in-house labor for 10 days.
Parks and Recreation Board report on development of parks - Councilman Asting
said he looked over the plans and it looks good to him.
Mayor Baugh asked for a motion to go out of the Workshop and back into the
regular meeting. Councilman Asting so moved. Councilman Prater seconded the
motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. Mayor Baugh called the Special Meeting back in
session.
Fence Ordinance - Mayor Baugh asked for a motion to turn it over to the City
Attorney and Dennis Fischer to bring it back in final form. Councilman Asting
so moved. Councilman Inman seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Model Home Ordinance - Mayor Baugh suggested this go
the language for it and he knows basically what they
to them in final form. Councilman Prater so moved.
the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Fire lane/Parking Ordinance-Mayor Baugh stated this is going to the City Attorney
and to Dennis Fischer and David Jones and he'll bring back an ordinance and they
can make any changes at that time, and he requested a motion on this. Councilman
Inman so moved. Councilman Asting seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
to the City Attorney for
asked him to bring back
Councilman Asting seconded
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Management Pay Plan - Councilman Asting said he wants the management team to
get the same increases as others and he so moved that it be 4% and then 4%
merit, or 8% based on evaluations. Councilman Inman seconded the motion.
Councilman Asting then withdrew his motion and Councilman Inman withdrew his
second to the motion. Councilman Asting then moved that it be 4%, authorizing
the management team get the same increases as those covered by SPEA. City
Clerk Martinez asked about the merit increase and Councilman Asting said they
have nothing to go on. Mayor Baugh asked if they want the Department Heads to
get 8% and Councilman Asting said it would be 4% cost of living and 4% merit.
Mayor Baugh stated other employees will get upset because they don't get
theirs until their anniversary dates. Councilman Asting stated it's only
4% for cost of living, the same as SPEA. City Clerk Martinez pointed out the
entire management team got their changes as of October 1st last year, and
they're to be evaluated prior to October 1 each year. Mayor Baugh stated they
got more than the other employees got last year. City Clerk Martinez asked if
there will be any merit increase this year and Mayor Baugh said the motion is
just for the 4% increase. Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion for questions,
and asked if they have to ratify this. Councilman Asting said there's no pro-
vision for a merit increase for the management team and City Clerk Martinez
pointed out that's only for last year and there's a provision now based on
quarterly reports. There was a discussion about the evaluation reports for
this past year and the changes when the ordinance was adopted. Councilman
Inman stated he felt they should do something for management because they would
have if the ordinance hadn't been changed. Councilman Rotundo asked if they
could establish a percentage to compensate for that merit this year. Mayor
Baugh said they'd better not, and it should be the 4% offered and if they want
to increase it 1% or 2% merit, they could do that later. He added that last
year's merit increase was built "in for 1984. Councilman Asting agreed they
could award a merit increase in January. Councilman Rotundo suggested it
could be retroactive to October 1st. There was a discussion about the
effective dates for this. Motion on the 4% increase CARRIED 5-0.
Councilman Inman reviewed the change in the ordinance to provide for quarterly
written reports and at the end of the four quarters, they'd consider a merit
raise, which would be October 1, 1986. He noted they should have done something
for the period October 1,1984 to October 1, 1985. Councilman Rotundo suggested
it be 3% more. City Clerk Martinez pointed out that general employees are
eligible for 4%. Councilman Rotundo said it would be retroactive to October 1
and made that a motion. He added it would be a total of 7%. Motion DIED for
lack of second. Councilman Inman moved to give them a 4% merit increase to
straighten it out. Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Councilman Inman stated it would be October 1, 1985, for the effective date and
no Council member expressed an objection. Mayor Baugh said he felt it should
be 4% on the supervisor's anniversary date to be fair.
Insurance Matters - Councilman Asting moved to have the City Clerk/Administrator
see if they can pay the premiums on a monthly basis and for her to contact the
risk managers for the County and Daytona Beach to see what information they
can give to set up their own system, and then they can call a special meeting.
Councilman Prater seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Bike Path - Mayor Baugh said he'd leave it in the hands of Earl Copeland
and Councilman Rotundo and City Clerk Martinez will get figures. City Clerk
Martinez noted there's not authorization to go out for bids yet.
Parks and Recreation Board report on development of parks - Councilman Rotundo
said he questioned the retention ponds and if they're going to make swales.
Mr. Tom Sheridan, Vice Chairman of Parks and Recreation, said they're swales
to keep the water from overloading the present drainage system they have.
He added that what was given to Council is a schematic and not absolute.
Mayor Baugh asked if this is cleared and Mr. Garrett said McCallister's will
probably clear next week and there are trees around the perimeter. Mr. Garrett
said they may need authorization to go out for bids and they'll want to purchase
playground equipment shortly after the fill is in. There was a discussion about
the source for the fill purchase and City Clerk Martinez said they're trying to
get it from Mr. Smith for $1. a yard for the 1,700 yards they need.
Councilman Asting moved to authorize the Parks and Recreation Director to expend
up to $3,000 for fill for the Umbrella Tree park. Councilman Prater seconded
the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
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Parks and Recreation Board report on development of parks (Continued) -
Councilman Asting moved to authorize the Parks and Recreation Director to
proceed with the development of the park in accordance with the plan to show
teen activity, picnic areas, and children's areas. Councilman Prater asked
if he wants to include it for him to go out for bids for the equipment to
furnish that park and Councilman Asting amended it to include they go out for
bids to equip the park. Councilman Prater seconded the motion. Motion
CARRIED 5-0.
The Roberts Road park was then discussed and Mayor Baugh stated that he has a
list of what they want but he wants to see it on a plan. Mr. Sheridan said
they'll have one similar to Umbrella Tree. Mayor Baugh said they'll consider
this when they get a plan. Councilman Asting moved to TABLE this Roberts Road
memo and he'd like to have part of that underbrush taken down, but not the
trees, so they can see what's there. Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion.
Motion CARRIED 5-0.
Councilman Asting moved to adjourn. Councilman Prater seconded the motion.
Meeting was adjourned at 4:18 P.M.
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November 7, 1985