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02-19-1986 - Special/Workshop o o CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER SPECIAL MEETING AND WORKSHOP FEBRUARY 19, 1986 MINUTES Mayor Baugh called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M. in the Community Center. He stated the purpose of the meeting was to discuss sites that were reviewed with the Library Construction Committee and Library Board. ROLL CALL Mayor Earl Baugh Councilman Louis Rotundo Councilman Russell Prater Councilman Neil Asting Present Present Present Present Councilman James Inman City Attorney Jose'Alvarez City Clerk Connie Martinez Chief Lawrence Schumaker Present Excused Present Present ROLL CALL FOR LIBRARY BOARD Ms. Mary Rice, Chairman Mrs. Jean Haughwout Ms. Lillian Bond-Nelson Mrs. Jeanette Dudley Mrs. Lauretta Shafer Present Arrived later Present Arrived later Present ROLL CALL FOR LIBRARY CONSTRUCTION COMMITTEE Mr. David McCallister, Chairman Present Mrs. JoAnne Sikes Present Mrs. Allison Kolodinsky (Mrs. Sikes advised she had to resign from the Committee) Mr. Jack Bevel Absent Councilman Louis Rotundo Present Mrs. Shirley Garthwaite Present Mrs. Mary Rice Present Also present was Mrs. Gayle Harmon, Librarian: Mayor Baugh asked for a motion to go from the Special Meeting into the Workshop. Councilman Asting so moved. Councilman Inman seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. Mrs. Dudley arrived at the meeting at this time, 6:02 P.M. Mayor Baugh asked that the representative from the Construction Committee speak. Mr. David McCallister, Chairman, stated that Mrs. Sikes is Vice Chairman and he introduced her and other members of the Committee. He noted that they'd looked at a number of parcels and have not come up with a top three choices yet. Mrs. Sikes stated they'd come up with a site they like to have considered. $50,000 budget. She reviewed the parcels on the list. She said they were offered 5 acres at the corner of 12th Street for $50,000 and it has water and sewer and is near the school and in the center of Edgewater. She noted there's a shell pit there and it will need a retention pond but because of the price they want to keep it in consideration. She added that it would need to be filled. walked over all but one of the parcels and they haven't want to recommend but they do have a list they would She said the prices are out of proportion with the She said item 2 is 5; acres on Turgot West of U.S. 1 near the school and that street is scheduled for paving. She pointed out that the owners have a home on U.S.l and one day if something happens to either of them, they'd agree to sell so that property would then be available. Mrs. Sikes said that the third item was marked off (12th Street and Mango Tree) because New Smyrna Beach is already negotiating with the School Board on this. Mrs. Sikes stated that the fourth item is on the corner of Silver Ridge and they feel it's too narrow but she'd talked to Mr. Carder about property on the north side of Friendly Shores and he doesn't want to let go of that land. \ Mrs. Haughwout arrived at the meeting at this time, 6:05 P.M. (.) Q Mrs. Sikes said the fifth item is the old Sewickley property and they might be able to obtain the corner property on Pine Bluff and u.s. 1. Mrs. Sikes said the sixth item on West Marion is one they liked because of the location and it's 5 acres at the old truss company which has apartments and mobile homes surrounding it. Mrs. Sikes said there are 5 acres on u.S. 1 but they need a bulldozer to be able to walk it because of the high fill there. Mrs. Sikes said item 8 has a site plan and is an ideal location but it's $400,000 at the end of Palm Way to be entered on three other streets. She said it has water and sewer also but the owner didn't talk to them personally. Mrs. Sikes said item 9 is near the Southeast Bank and is 5 acres for $350,000 or they could divide it up by section. She said they're looking at section 2. She said the manager of Southeast Bank told them they own the portion nearest to it with a deep "V" in the back and if someone bought portion 1, they'd talk terms to square it off. Mrs. Sikes noted that item 10 is too costly at Hotel and South Riverside. Mrs. Sikes said item 11 is near the Jiffy Store and has 150 feet on u.S. 1 and they can go from Lamont or Wilkinson or u.S. 1 for access. Mrs. Sikes said item 12 is at the corner of Thomas and U.S.l and is south of Brown's Air Conditioning. Mayor Baugh noted that was the land that was just filled in and Mrs. Sikes agreed. Mrs. Sikes noted that item 13 is the front block of u.S. 1 between Woodley and Hotel. Mrs. Sikes stated that item 14 is the trailer park. Councilman Prater asked the size of this parcel and Mrs. Sikes replied it's a little over an acre. Mayor Baugh questioned how much land is needed and Mrs. Sikes replied 3 to 5 acres with a 100 foot building with room for easements and parking. Mrs. Harmon said it's about 7,500 square feet at the building and about 36 parking spaces for now, and plus room to leave open for possibility of expansion. Mrs. Sikes said that item 15 is the large portion where the drive-in used to be, owned by Mr. Hall and the front section could be split up. Mrs. Sikes stated these were just some of the ones they discussed and since then the article was in the newspaper. She said she was approached by someone that day about land close to this area being negotiated but the man had to talk to the one who owns it. She pointed out they weren't ready to bring anything to Council and the item showed up on the agenda. Councilman Rotundo stated that the Board has really been looking at property and $50,000 will not be enough money. He asked if that money is in escrow drawing interest and City Clerk Martinez replied yes. Councilman Rotundo asked if that interest will be added and City Clerk Martinez replied yes, at September 30th of this year. Mrs. Sikes stated that she was approached by someone who wanted to donate to the land and she didn't know how to handle it. She added that they have a lot of patrons and they might want to give thought to this as a tax deductible gift. Councilman Asting asked if anyone else knows of any sites that might be suitable for the location of the Library with a sufficient area. Mrs. Alice Murphy asked about the land at the end of 30th for the park. Mayor Baugh replied that it's too far down. Councilman Asting noted it's at the southern City limits. Mayor Baugh added that it's off the path of where a Library should be. Mrs. Murphy expressed her concern with children having to cross the highway. Councilman Asting stated he doesn't favor sites on U.S. 1 because of the traffic and possibility of accidents. Mrs. Sikes said they looked at the property on West Marion because of that, and the Miller property on Turgot. Councilman Asting stated that West Marion abuts an industrial area and ' doesn't seem a good area for a Library facility. -2- Council Special Meeting & Workshop Minutes February 19, 1986 ..-. o u Mr. McCallister said they didn't pick the top three choices yet because they wanted an overview but he suggested since Mango Tree is going to be a through street!that somewhere in the area of Mango Tree or Indian River Boulevard would he in a central district. Mayor Baugh asked about crossing the railroad tracks. Mr. McCallister asked if they want it in the center or the edge.. Councilman Asting agreed with Mr. McCallister's suggestion and said people from Edgewater Acres and Florida Shores would have easy access. Mrs. Shafer pointed out there's a lot of water in that area. Councilman Asting said they'd look at it to see if they could take care of it. Mayor Baugh agreed they'd have to fill there. Mrs. Sikes pointed out that any piece of land will have some draw back and will need fill or grading or something and that has to be considered in the cost. She again stressed that location is what they have to keep in mind. Councilman Asting said they'd talking $200,000 to $250,000 plus the building. Mrs. Harmon stated the building will be about $400,000. Councilman Asting asked that they add a site to their list and it was the area on Park Avenue adjacent to Wildwood Subdivision. Mrs. Shafer asked if it would be bad for children because of the trucks there. Councilman Asting pointed out the people in Wildwood would have access to it. Mrs. Garthwaite noted they would be the only ones. Councilman Asting suggested they pick three sites to look at and Mrs. Sikes suggested it be five. Councilman Asting agreed. There was a discussion about when the committee would be looking at more sites and when further information will be available. Mrs. Sikes said someone had called her that day and suggested it be near the river on the south side of Menard Park. She advised people to ride around the City and look. Mr. McCallister suggested they might buy something in Florida Shores with several lots and an older home. Mrs. Sikes again stated that they weren't ready to bring anything to Council. Mayor Baugh suggested they table this until the Committee is ready to bring back more information to Council. There was further discussion as to when the Committee felt they would have a recommendation to Council. Councilman Prater pointed out that he hadn't looked at these locations yet. Mrs. Sikes said they're looking at them to help Council. Councilman Asting expressed his appreciation to the Committee for doing this job. Mrs. Sikes said she can notify the City Clerk when they have the information ready. It was the consensus that it would be about the first week of April. Gail (last name not heard), 101 Park Place, asked if the audience knows of any property available and if many people are aware of this. She asked if anyone did a needs assessment for the community or a questionnaire in the local papers to see whether the people would use the Library at certain locations. She pointed out when people are new to a community they go to a Library to meet friendly people and to get information. She suggested they might invest more money in the land to get it in the center of town. Mr. McCallister pointed out they looked at location and they don't think U.S.l is where it's needed. He said they looked at Florida Shores and Mayor Baugh agreed it would be less expensive than U.S.l. Councilman Asting asked if the list is in order of preference and Mrs. Sikes said no. Mrs. Sikes said location is most important and then they have to think about senior citizens driving or walking and making it safe for the children. Mr. McCallister said he likes Mango Tree Drive because of the access. Councilman Asting said he likes the price. Councilman Inman pointed out location is very important to have maximum use of it and heavy pedestrian traffic to walk and for ample parking. He noted they are projecting that by the year 2000 they will have over 20,000 people and they don't want a piece of land too small but get something where they can expand. -3- Council Special Meeting & Workshop Minutes February 19, 1986 ~ Q o Mr. McCallister pointed out that as the City grows they have to look at the south end of the City needing a Library. Mrs. Sikes said south of Park Avenue was their first thought but she likes the parcel north of Park by the Jiffy Food Store because it has entrances from two streets. Mrs. Sikes added that they need a Police station, and the City Hall and Library are both overcrowded. She suggested they consider land not just for the Library but for the other facilities. She added that this is the first Council in the 20 years that she's worked for the City that looked toward the future and she expressed her appreciation for what they're doing. Mr. Les Mason, Date Palm Drive, asked about available property the City owns. Mayor Baugh said there's 14 acres on the south end and the other parcels are too small. Mrs. Alice Murphy asked about the park the City has that could be widened to put the Library on and Mayor Baugh said it's not large enough. Ms. Lydia MoIster asked if the public would have a choice in the decision and Mayor Baugh replied yes. He asked that anyone advise the site committee how they feel. Ms. MoIster asked if there would be a decision that night and Mayor Baugh replied no. Mrs. Jean Haughwout asked if the Committee can eliminate any because of size, and Mrs. Sikes replied yes. Mrs. Shirley Garthwaite pointed out that item 4, the entrance to Silver Ridge, is too small. Mrs. Sikes eliminated items 3, 4, 7, 8, 10,12, and 13. Mrs. Haughwout questioned item 11 and Mrs. Sikes replied that it's large enough and is deep and goes back behind the Jiffy and down Lamont. Mrs. Sikes then eliminated item 14 because they want to sell the parcels with the trailers on it. Mrs. Mary Rice noted there's a possibility they would sell the trailers. Mr. McCallister again pointed out they hadn't picked any choices yet. Mayor Baugh suggested they keep looking and they'll plan about the first week of April as a tentative date for another meeting and more information. Mr. Les Mason asked if they can take some of the property the City now owns and then sell it and put that money in the Library fund. Mayor Baugh replied that the City doesn't have that much property to swap. Mr. Mason asked about a grant from the government and Mayor Baugh replied it's for the building after they buy the land. Mr. Frank Morris, Evergreen Drive, asked if the City would consider demolishing the Police station and City Hall and put a three story building there. Mayor Baugh pointed out it's not in the central location as now it's around 12th and Mango Tree. Mr. Morris noted that it's a beautiful location where the City Hall is now and Mayor Baugh agreed, but added that they're looking to expand further south and west to be centrally located. Mrs. Garthwaite asked if Mango Tree and 12th will still be the center in the year 2000 and Mayor Baugh said it's centrally located now and they might have to consider a branch Library in the south or west area. Mrs. Garthwaite asked what the southern boundary will be in the future and Councilman Asting replied Ariel Road. Mayor Baugh added that it will be 1-95 to the west. Mrs. Garthwaite asked about property located in the County and Mayor Baugh said it wouldn't be in the central location now. Councilman Asting noted that the City is land poor and the 14 acres on Roberts Road was bought with recreation funds and has to be used for that. Mayor Baugh said they could possibly build a branch there in the future. Mrs. Harmon said they need to look at where the volume of trade is to get the most for the dollar. Mrs. Garthwaite said they have to consider safety of the Library patrons of all ages. Mayor Baugh asked for a motion to recess the Workshop and go back into the Special Meeting. Councilman Inman so moved. Councilman Asting seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. Mayor Baugh requested a motion to adjourn. Councilman Asting so moved. Councilman Prater seconded the motion. Meetin was adjourned at 6:49 P.M. Minutes submitted by: Lura Sue Koser ~ CITY CLERK J A~~ thiS~. Q~~8 :c... ~ 7sl~ MAYOR { ~UNCILMAN - ZONE FOUR jI.R5 P r;: [JP- -4- Council Special Meeting & Workshop Minutes February 19, 1986