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02-04-1986 - Special/Workshop u o CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER SPECIAL MEETING AND WORKSHOP FEBRUARY 4, 1986 MINUTES Vice Mayor Neil Asting called the meeting to order at 1:30 P.M. in the Community Center. ROLL CALL Mayor Earl Councilman Councilman Vice Mayor Baugh Louis Rotundo Russell Prater Neil Asting Arrived Later Present Present Present Councilman James Inman Present City Attorney Jose'Alvarez Excused City Clerk Connie Martinez Present Chief Lawrence Schumaker Arrived Later Mr. Earl Copeland, Public Works Superintendent, was also present. Petition from Sabal Palm residents re: condition of street - Numerous speakers from the audience voiced their objection to the paving recently done: Henry Dardinski, 2704 Sabal Palm; Richard Rowland, 27l0-22nd Street; George Schmidt, 2940 Sabal Palm; Frank Wroniak, 2428 Sabal Palm; James Grossnickle, 2412 Sabal Palm; Charles Walton, 2421 Sabal Palm; Ken Dore, 2204 Willow Oak; Louise Sankey, 2511 Sabal Palm; Len Wiltberger, 2909 Sabal Palm; Mr. Browning, 2518 Saba 1 Palm; David Pohl, 2914 Sabal Palm; Felix Simanowski, 2722 Sabal Palm; an unidentified lady on Royal Palm who owns lots on Sabal Palm; and Larry Collinson, 26l0-22nd Street. Vice Mayor Asting explained to the audience that there are about 90 miles of roads to be paved in Florida Shores and the objective was to eliminate the dust. He noted the method suggested by Mr. Dardinski would cost about $12.00 a linear foot compared to about $4.00 for the City's method. He also pointed out that if they take the extra money for another surface on Sabal Palm it would mean they would have to eliminate other streets they intend to pave in the next phase. He stated he drove the road every day the past week and all the pot holes had been filled. Mr. Copeland stated they put 18 tons of asphalt down. Mr. Rowland, 27l0-22nd Street, presented a petition from residents of 22nd Street who objected to the condition of the street and asked that a hot layer of asphalt be put on. Vice Mayor Asting stated that all the streets recently paved will be resurfaced, and they have soil cement down to form the base for the cap. Mr. Rowland presented photos of the paving and a sample of the pavement. Mr. Schmidt spoke several times on the height of his driveway and lack of access with his motor home, plus the condition of the front of the lawn at the ditch. Mayor Baugh arrived at the meeting at this time, 1:50 P.M. Mr. Wiltberger presented photos of the dust that was created when they did the soil cement method. Mr. Dardinski questioned when the billing will be done and Mayor Baugh said they won't be billed until the streets are completed, and it will be the total consensus of the Council that it will be done the way it should be done. Mr. Dore questioned if the County people supervised on Needle Palm and Mr. Copeland replied yes, because they'd never done that type work before. Councilman Asting again stated they aren't finished with Sabal Palm and it will be resurfaced and put in good useable shape. Mr. Collinson asked if there is a time table when the roads will be completed properly and Mr. Copeland replied within the next 30 days, weather permitting. Mr. Collinson asked if that would include all the roads and Mr. Copeland replied it would be Sabal Palm and 22nd Street. Mr. Copeland explained they need temperatures in the 70's and dry roads. Councilman Asting stated that the more traffic these roads get, the better they become. Chief Schumaker arrived at the meeting at this time, 2:22 P.M. ~ Q o Phase 2 of road paving program - Councilman Asting suggested they go into a Workshop for this portion, and he pointed out they won't get started on this until Sabal Palm and others are satisfactorily surfaced. Mayor Baugh agreed. Mr. Collinson asked what contractor they'll use for these roads and Mayor Baugh replied it won't be the same one. Councilman Asting moved to go into the Workshop for Phase 2 of the road paving program. Councilman Prater seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. Mayor Baugh called a short recess at 2:25 P.M. as several members of the audience were leaving at this time. Mayor Baugh called the Workshop back in session at 2:30 P.M. Mayor Baugh pointed out the list from Earl Copeland has a total of 7.5 miles recommended and he suggested they make any changes, additions, or deletions. The streets on Mr. Copeland's list were reviewed one by one, noting that some could be done in this fiscal year and others could be carried over to 1987, to begin on October 1, 1986 for that fiscal year. Mr. Earl Wallace pointed out that Guava business residents don't have the $25,000 exemption that homeowners receive and their petition listed over 90% who agreed to the paving. Mr. Sam Holland stated that Guava Drive is the worst street to drive on and they keep grading it to put it in condition to drive on it. Mr. Vinnie Turano, Guava and Needle, said some customers won't come down that road because of its condition. Mayor Baugh agreed that Guava should be considered as top priority. Councilman Rotundo said he'd like to see 7.5 miles done if they have the money. Councilman Asting pointed out they'll have a surplus of over $500,000 and it could come out of that, but he also noted other items: such as the increase at the Humane Society~ will have to come out of that figure. There was a discussion about Evergreen Street north of the Boulevard and Mr. Copeland said he'd try to do that himself. Mrs. Hager asked when Queen Palm will be considered, and Councilman Asting said it's listed for 1987 to begin October 1, 1986, and he agreed there's a lot of dust and traffic with trucks. Mr. Roy Petty, 2818 Queen Palm, said businesses are only there during working hours and residents are there 24 hours a day. Mr. Tom Hager, 2814 Queen Palm, said there's a lot of traffic of trucks and residents and they don't slow down. Mayor Baugh pointed out the speed limit is 30 MPH and they try to enforce it. Mr. Hager suggested they put a hump in the middle of the streets so they don't have a river. Mr. Copeland explained they don't put the box scraper there unless they have to but they're responsible for installing culverts under each driveway in Florida Shores and the grader stays busy. Mr. J. C. Stimson, Harold's Engine Rebuilding, asked about the assessments on the west side of Guava and if the City will pay 2/3 or if it will be split in half. Mayor Baugh said it's 1/3, 1/3, and 1/3 but the railroad won't pay it. Mr. Stimson said he thinks Earl Copeland is doing a good job with what he has to work with. Councilman Prater suggested they move the rest of the streets on the list up to 1988. Councilman Inman objected as he said 30th South needs a paved road in that area. Mayor Baugh agreed. Councilman Asting said he wants Willow Oak left in there. Councilman Inman agreed it could be Pine Tree or Willow Oak. Councilman Asting suggested Willow Oak from 30th to 35th and then Queen Palm from 30th to the Boulevard. Mayor Baugh said Queen Palm needs it more on the north side. Councilman Rotundo suggested they do Juniper. -2- Council Special Meeting & Workshop Minutes February 4, 1986 ~ . o o Phase 2 of road paving program (Continued) - There was a discussion about holding off on the east/west streets until they do the north/south streets. Councilman Prater suggested they be more in the center of town, and he pointed out the school buses run the east/west streets. Councilman Asting asked to add Orange Tree and Queen Palm to 1986 from the Boulevard south to 30th, and suggested they substitute these for Hibiscus. Councilman Asting then read off the list of streets for 1986: Guava Boulevard to 26th Street; Fern Palm, north of 442 to Industrial Road; Dayton Street; High Street; Eaton Road west of Bradford to Industrial Road; Juniper and 26th Street across the tracks to 27th Street and east to County property; Willow Oak, 30th to 36th Street; West Turgot from U.S. 1 west to ball park (with possibily of coordinating this with the School Board); Needle Palm Drive from Mango Tree north to 12th Street; and Orange Tree from the Boulevard south to 30th; and Queen Palm from the Boulevard south to 30th. Mr. Copeland stated he'll take care of some of the short sections. Councilman Rotundo asked Mr. Copeland to give more thought to going into the soil cement business and Mr. Copeland said he'd rather not do it. Mayor Baugh said he won't recommend the company that did it before and Councilman Asting agreed. Mayor Baugh noted that when they go out on bids they can reject it because of unsatisfactory workmanship. Councilman Prater moved to adjourn the Workshop. Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. Mayor Baugh requested a motion to adjourn the Council meeting. Councilman Asting so moved and then withdrew his motion. Councilman Prater moved to accept the decision made here pending the audit and the funds available. Councilman Rotundo requested a revised sheet of what is to be done. Councilman Inman seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. Mayor Baugh requested a motion to adjourn. Councilman Prater so moved. Councilman Inman seconded the motion. Meeting was adjourned at 3:20 P.M. Minutes submitted by: ~~ 8l MAY~ .~ COliNC MAN -dE ~ ~ (),.~ ~LMAN~ZONE 'wo ./~~ COUNCILMAN - E THRE ~~4~?~ ~NCILMAN - ONE FOUR ~.s Lura Sue Koser ~ ~ ATTEST: "Ci-tJ'l / CITY CLERK 3t'-L ~~d:98~. F -3- Council Special Meeting & Workshop Minutes February 4, 1986