05-02-1977 - Regular
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CITY OF EDGEWATER CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING HELD
May 2, 1977
Mayor Armstrong called the regular meeting of the City Council of the City
of Edgewater to order Monday, May 2, 1977 at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Dana T. Armstrong
Councilwoman Ryta F. Webber
Councilman Henry C. Riggs
Councilman Walter B. Sikes
Councilman Calvin R. Dietz
City Attorney Judson I. Woods
City Clerk Sue Blackwell
Police Chief Earl Baugh
Present
Present
Present
Present
Excused
Present
Present
Present
INVOCATION
SALUTE TO FLAG
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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BILLS AND ACCOUNTS:
Mayor Armstrong read the total of the bills in the General Fund account.
Councilman Riggs made a motion to pay the bills, being seconded by Council-
woman Webber.
Mr. Taylor asked several questions, which were answered by the Mayor and City
Clerk.
Mr. Poland questioned the bill charged to the Ballpark.
It was explained to him that this is the water bill from the City.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 3-1. Mayor Armstrong voting NO.
Mayor Armstrong read the total of the bills in the Water and Sewer account.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to pay the bills, being seconded by Council-
woman Webber.
Councilman Riggs asked the City Clerk if she found out anything on the utility
bill.
The City Clerk stated that it was a correct billing.
Councilwoman Webber stated that this is a correct bill, however we have had some
trouble at the Water Plant, and this money should be reimbursed. The bill will
be higher next month because we must use the blower constantly.
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Mrs. Turner asked the Mayor if he could explain why he voted no on paying the
bills.
Mayor Armstrong stated that it is his preroggative. He stated that he did
not go along with changing the name of the Shuffleboard, and he does not
in the ending justify the beginning by voting yes on it. He does not feel
that there are any eligitimate bills, he just does not support the ideas
and it is not to him a neccessary expense to the City.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 3-1. Mayor Armstrong voting NO.
COMMUNICATIONS:
The City Clerk read a letter from Helen Redding asking that she be allowed
to speak to the Council.
Mrs. Redding was given the floor, and she spoke to the Council about the
need of funds toward the purchase of uniform coats for the New Smyrna Beach
Junior High Band.
Councilman Riggs asked if any Edgewater children attend that school?
Mr. Rush, Band Director, stated that all of the children in Edgewater attend
this school.
Councilman Sikes asked how many Edgewater children are in the band?
Mr. Rush stated that the total in the band is 88, and he will say approximately
20 to 25 will be from Edgewater.
Councilman Sikes asked some more questions about the jackets.
Mr. Rush stated that the price of each jacket is $43.00. He explained that
they get absolutely no funds from the County or the State to operate the band
program. All the money needed is raised through local funds. He stated that
they are in the process of contacting all Cities in the area and Civil Clubs.
Mayor Armstrong asked how much time they would have before they have to make
an order?
Mr. Rush stated that we would have to place an order by the end of July in
order to get them back on time.
Mayor Armstrong stated that we are talking about an area wide educational
program, about 25% of this would be Edgewater1s portion or about $860. He
added that he would like some time to think about where the money will come
from, but he feels that we must do something for the band.
-- Councilman Riggs made a motion that we set this aside until next week to
figure out what we can do, being seconded by Councilman Sikes. Upon roll
call vote said motion CARRIED, 4-0.
The City Clerk read a letter from the Florida Shores Property Owners Association
requesting that something be done to control the speeding of cars on these un-
paved streets. This is more of a problem on these streets because of the dusty
conditions.
Councilman Riggs stated that the police cars are out there .working and trying
to control this.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the dust is the problem and we just hope that we
get some rain.
~ The City Clerk stated that we have a letter informing us of Mr. Bruse Graebner's
resignation. There was no action taken in regard to this communication.
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The City Clerk stated that next we have the CETA audit and they are asking
for a written reply in thirty days to state our position on the report.
There were no comments made on this.
AUDIENCE MISCELLANEOUS:
None
RESOLUTIONS:
RES. NO. 713
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING JAMES POLAND TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OF THE
CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, SETTING FORTH THE TERM AND PROVIDING AN EFFEC-
TIVE DATE.
Attorney Woods read the Resolution in full.
Councilwoman Webber made a motion to adopt this Resolution, being seconded
by Councilman Riggs. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 4-0.
Mr. Poland was introduced to the Council.
ORDINANCES:
Mayor Armstrong stated that since it is necessary to appropriate by Ordinance
and we have a fund that has an expiration date but we have not passed an
Ordinance on it yet, time is about to expire for allocating this money. It
is necessary to do this on an emergency basis.
Councilman Sikes made a motion that we declare this an emergency, being seconded
by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 4-0.
ORD. NO. 974
AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING THE SUM OF $13,169.00 FROM ANTI-RECESSION FISCAL
AID FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR SERVICES OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE COR-
PORATION OF TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA FOR REVISING THE CITY CODE OF THE CITY OF
EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT
HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Attorney Woods read the Ordinance in full.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to adopt this Ordinance, being seconded by
Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 4-0.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the next two Ordinances are very important.
One was a mistake in the beginning, and one of these corrects it. He went
on to. explain that Ordinance 971 should not have appealed any of Ordinance
880, it should have added to it. We have an Ordinance here that repeals
Ordinance 971 and a corrective Ordinance. He stated that it is up to the
Council what we do.
Councilman Sikes stated that we do have a moritorium on issuing building
permits and he would like for the attorney to briefly explain what we are
doing by amending Ordinance 971.
Attorney Woods stated that Ordinance 971 .took out the original language of
Section 400.01 of Ordinance 880, pertaining to non-conforming lots of record
and substituted in the wording as proposed by the Zoning Board at the Public
Hearing. By repealing Ordinance 971 and re-enacting this new Ordinance we
keep the language of 400.01 as originally worded but we also add the new
language approved at the Public Hearing, as recommendation of. the Zoning Board,
He read the original wording of 400.01, and he read the new wording as in Or-
dinance 971. He explained that we are putting back the language plus the new
language.
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Attorney Woods answered some questions from the Council about this Ordinance.
He also answered some specific questions about the Highland Shores area.
Councilman Sikes stated that since we have a moritorium on the issuance of
any building permits he will make a motion that we declare this an emergency
and that we act upon the repealing Ordinance 971 and amending A~tic1e 400.01,
being seconded by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED,
4-0.
ORD. NO. 975
AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 971 PERTAINING TO NON-CONFORMING LOTS
OF RECORD, REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, AND
PROVIDING FORAN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Attorney Woods read this Ordinance in full.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to adopt this Ordinance, being seconded by
Councilwoman Webber.
Mr. Denton asked several questions about this ruling.
Mayor Armstrong explained that they have looked into this, and he feels that
we have to do what is fair to everyone.
Upon roll call vote on the previous motion, said motion CARRIED, 4-0.
ORD. NO 976
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE IV, SECTION 400.01 OF ORDINANCE NO. 880 OF
THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, PERTAINING TO NON-CONFORMING LOTS OF RECORD
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Tape 2A
Attorney Woods read this Ordinance in full.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to aodpt this Ordinance, being seconded by
Councilman Riggs.
There were several other questions answered about the wording and the
meaning of this Ordinance. There were also some questions about the lots
in Highland Shores, which Mayor Armstrong answered.
Attorney Woods answered some questions about the lots in Highland Shores,
and the variances that are required.
Upon roll call vote on the previous motion, said motion CARRIED, 4-0.
Mayor Armstrong asked Attorney Woods if we should at this time lift the
moratorium on issuing building permits.
Attorney Woods stated that we should lift the moratorium, and he believes
that there are individuals who have applications pending before the Board
of Adjustments. These people should not have to resubmit, they should go
ahead and consider the original applications.
Councilwoman Webber stated that she thinks that the applications were withdrawn?
Mr. Millard stated that the applications of Government Builders were withdrawn
therefore there is no action required of the board. To reapply, they will have
to advertise and go through the entire procedure.
Mr. Cartee spoke to the Council that he withdrew his applications because he
was assured by the Building Department that they could get building permits
and he did not see any sense in putting the people through the work of issuing
the variances, since they already had the permits. The permits were made out
and on the Building Officials desk. He did not withdraw because he did not
want a decision from the board, he would like for the board to reconsider his
requests.
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Mayor Armstrong stated that a technicality of law prohibits the City Council
from enter mingling into the board1s proceedings in any way. Whatever is to
be done is between the applicant and the board.
Councilwoman Webber made a motion that we lift the moratorium on the building
on these non-conforming -lots, being seconded by Councilman Riggs. Upon roll
call vote said motion CARRIED, 4-0.
OLD BUSINESS:
Mayor Armstrong stated that he and Mrs. Webber were to review the proposed
By-laws of the VCOG before tonight and make some recommendation. He gave
Councilwoman Webber the floor first.
Councilwoman Webber explained each change to the Council that she feels should
be made. She read from the By-laws so that the Council could follow what she
was talking about.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he does not agree with the idea
should be able to pass judgment on Edgewater's priorities.
that they should know what is going on, however for them to
water last on a priority list he does not agree with.
of the other Cities
He has no objections
vote and put Edge-
Councilman Sikes asked several questions, which Councilwoman Webber and Mayor
Armstrong answered.
Tape 2B
Councilman Sikes stated that he thinks that every City wants to govern themselves
but we shouldn't let the County feel that we don't want to work with them.
Councilwoman Webber went on with some of her ideas. It was agreed that we should
suggest that all communications shall be signed by the Chairman of VCOG instead
of by the Executive Dir.ector.
It was decided to skip down further on the agenda now so that Attorney Woods
could be allowed to leave the meeting early due to illnes~ in his family.
Councilwoman Webber stated that she would like to discuss something so that
Attorney Woods will be here. She explained that we have an opportunity to
buy three police cars for $600 a piece under what we paid for buns. She
explained that we can not wait very long to purchase these cars because the
County can not hold them forever. She added that she would like the attorney
to draw up a Resolution for a loan of the surplus monies from the General
Fund for $5800, this money is to be replaced from the $15,000 appropriated
from the Revenue Sharing that we have already allocated.
Mayor Armstrong stated that we have to hold a Public Hearing on the Federal
Revenue Sharing money and it comes up on May 16th.
Councilwoman Webber stated that we will have to have an Ordinance with a second
reading after this Public Hearing, and it is not feasible for them to hold the
cars for that length of time. She added that she has checked with John Vodnicker
and he said that this could be done.
Councilman Sikes stated that we voted our intent to spend the Revenue Sharing
money, and the entire Council agreed. One time we were advised that we could
not spend money ahead of time.
Attorney Woods stated that if you don't have the money available you are not
suppose to make an expenditure. This is a transfer of funds the way he sees
it. It is up to the Council.
Councilman Sikes asked the City Clerk if we have the money available in these
various accounts that we can loan?
The City Clerk explained that the Public Hearing is going to have to be changed
until the 23rd of May. She added that she thinks that you could probably by
Resolution loan them the money with the understanding that it is going to be
paid back because you already have Revenue money sitting there. You should
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specify what it is for so you can show when the Federal Revenue money is used
to pay it back. So it will show that you didn1t subplant your budget in any
way, and that it was used for such a purpose that the Federal Revenue money
was allocated for.
Councilman Sikes asked if we are expecting any more demands that will be
coming up the next month off of the Emergency and Contingency fund?
The City Clerk stated that she can't think of anything.
Councilman Sikes asked if we have $9200 in that account.
The City Clerk stated as of the end of the month, yes.
Mayor Armstrong asked what surplus money Mrs. Webber is talking about.
Councilwoman Webber stated that there is surplus money over and above the
appropriated monies for the General Fund. She asked the City Clerk if this
is correct?
The City Clerk stated yes, that we have an unappropriated surplus.
Mayor Armstrong stated that you are talking about unappropirated money and
it is not lawful to spend unappropriated money.
The City Clerk stated that you could show some portion of it overexpended;
we have done this in the past.
Councilman Sikes stated that he has noticed that the men are taking the cars
to their houses and cleaning them, waxing them and taking pride in the units.
This would give each patrolman a car of his own and we would get more use out
of the cars.
Attorney Woods stated that if you have the money you are not dealing with
appropriations, you are dealing with transfer of funds. However, suppose
you really do have an emergency arise and you have to have the money, where
are you going to get it?
The City Clerk stated that in the event of an emergency you could appropriate
some of the surplus, but that will take time. She thinks it's just a matter
of whether the Council wants to do this or not, they have already said that
they are going to buy the Police cars and spend the Federal Revenue for it.
It is a matter of whether they want to save the $1800 or whether they want
to put it off.
Tape 3A
Councilwoman Webber made a motion that our attorney draw up a Resolution for
a loan of surplus money from the General Fund of $5,800 and $9,200 from
Emergency and Contingency to be replaced with the $15,000 appropriated from
Federal Revenue Sharing, being seconded by Councilman Sikes. Upon roll call
vote said motion CARRIED, 3-1. Mayor Armstrong voting NO.
At this time Attorney Woods was excused from the meeting.
Mayor Armstrong stated that we have to contact Mayor Currie in the morning
about the VCOG By-laws, so we might as well go back and finish up this.
The Council began by starting at .the first page and going through each recom-
mended change.
Councilman Sikes made a motion that we authorize the mayor, and in his absence
Mrs. Webber as alternate to present the proposed Charter and By-laws to VCOG
and give them the authority to suggest and vote towards the adoption of what-
ever is presented, being seconded by Councilman Riggs.
There was further discussion about what is of the best interest to the City.
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The changes were gone over one more time and mutually agreed upon by the
entire Council.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the next matter for discussion is a workshop
on retirment fund.
There was discussion as to what would be a good time to have this meeting.
It was also discussed that we will have to amend the budget because there
was nothing appropriated for a retirement program.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he does not believe that we can do this, because
you are not actually amending the budget, you would be setting up a new bud-
get when you are putting new line items in it.
It was decided to set this for May 17th, and we will have to meet in the
Mayor's office since Bingo is in the Community Center that night.
The next matter is discussion about the computer.
The City Clerk explained that if we are going to buy a computer, we need to
get bids out and get them back some time in June or July.
Councilman Sikes stated that we still need to get plans and specifications
first. He added that the City Clerk knows better than anybody what we need
that computer information to give us.
Councilman Sikes made a motion that we table this until next week, being
seconded by Councilman Riggs. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 4-0.
Councilman Riggs asked if it would be all right to take all of the surplus
dirt out to the landfill for fill dirt out there.
It was agreed that this is a good idea.
Mayor Armstrong stated that we have a figure on a twenty inch Council table
in three sections at $900.
It was questioned whether twenty inches is enough.
Chief Baugh explained the drawing as Mr. Karditzas explained it to him.
It was agreed that the Mayor and City Clerk can work this out.
There was discussion about the speaker system also.
NEW BUSINESS:
Tape 3B
Mayor Armstrong stated that the Palmetto Street bridge has been closed.
It was mutually decided between the two Cities that this was the safest thing
to do. Some work will now get done on it.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he was suppose to get a call back in regards to
the fire coverage at the Nice Place and he has got no word yet. He was told
that they had the right to establish a Fire District south of Edgewater if
they petitioned for it. If they are going to do this, they should ask the
County.
Mr. Jennings spoke to the Council about this matter. He said that he has
already spoke to Mr. Duane about this, and there seems to be some technicality
that the City could help out with, by contracting with them. He stated that a
County wide Fire District seems to be some years off. The owner of the Nice
Place may not be able to buy fire insurance for his business unless the City
contracts with him.
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There was discussion that the City has served the Nice Place before in the
case of a fire.
Mayor Armstrong stated that in the case of life and limb he would be in favor
of sending our entire Fire Department outside of the City limits. However,
it defeats the cause if a man outside of the City has fire protection, police
protection, and garbage collection. He would not have any incentive to ever
become a part of the City by annexation.
Mr. Jennings suggested that perhaps the City charge a fee for responding to a
fire outside the City limits.
There was discussion among the Council members about this.
Mayor Armstrong stated that in his judgment we would be over stepping out
authority to draw up a contract with a person outside the City for fire protection.
Councilwoman Webber stated that it would not be fair to the citizens of Edgewater
who are paying taxes for this protection.
Councilman Sikes suggested that Mr. Jennings be given a copy of our Ordinance
so that he and his client may read exactly what kind of services are now
available to them.
Councilwoman Webber asked if any more thought was given to the room for the
Zoning Board?
Mayor Armstrong stated that the man was suppose to bring in a figure for the
work.
MISCELLANEOUS:
Mayor Armstrong asked Mr. Shell if they have done anything about the custodian?
Mr. Shell stated that they will have a meeting tomorrow night.
There was discussion about this job among the Council members.
It was decided that Mr. Shell is to look around and notify the Council when he
finds someone.
ADJOURNMENT:
Councilman Sikes made a motion to adjourn, being seconded by Councilman Riggs.
Said motion CARRIED.
MINUTES TAKEN BY:
Sue Blackwell
Debbie Sigler
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