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CITY OF EDGEWATER
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
December ?jJ, 1978
Mayor Christy called the Special Meeting of the City Council
to order at 6:00 P,M. in City Hall.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Robert H. Christy
Councilman Louis J. Rotundo
Councilman David C. Ledbetter
Councilman Walter B. Sikes
Councilman Neil J. Asting
City Attorney Judson Woods
City Clerk John Wharton
Police Chief Earl Baugh
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Mayor Christy announced that pursuant to Charter Regulations
(Ordinance No. 994, Section 2) he has called this Special Meeting
for the purpose of discussing the specific items on the Agenda
and to take action (if necessary).
Bilis and Accounts
Councilman Rotundo asked what the bill to Williams Paint Co. was
for.
Councilman Ledbetter said that it was for plexiglass for the
backhoe.
Councilman Sikes made a motion that the Council approve the bills
for payment. Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 5-0. The total amount of the
bills was $8,352.36.
Fire Department
Mayor Christy said that this concerned a 50/50 grant from the
State Dept. of Forestry for the purchase of hoses and other
equipment for the Fire Dept. The Council had approved making
an application for this grant and the application has been
accepted. The amount is $4,046.00 of which the City will pay
half. The money has been budgeted.
Councilman Rotundo mad~ a motion that the Council accept this
grant on a 50/50 basis. Councilman Ledbetter seconded the motion.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 5-0.
Material for Sewer Line Extension on Juniper
Councilman Asting made a motion that the Council go out for bids
on the material needed to put in this sewer line. Councilman
Ledbetter seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion CARRIED
5-0. The Council set January 12, 1979 at 4:00 P.M. for the return
of the bids. They will be opened at the January 15, 1979 Council
Meeting.
City Attorney
Mayor Christy said that the Council had received copies of resumes
from Mr. McFadden and Mr. Haqglund concerning the position of
City Attorney. A Mr. Metz had also contacted the Mayor in regard
to this position.
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Councilman Rotundo made a motion that the Council reinstate
Judson Woods as City Attorney. Councilman Sikes seconded the
motion.
Councilman Asting said that on November 10th Mr. Woods twice
stated that he was going to resign. Later he changed his mind.
I asked for a legal opinion and because I didn1t agree with
Mr. Woodis opinion. he submitted a letter of resignation stating
that the Council did not have confidence in his judgement.
Everyone can disagree with each other if they choose but that
does not mean they have to resign. This could happen again if
an opinion is made that we donlt go along with which keeps us
rather unbalanced.
Councilman Sikes said that he was glad that Mr. Woods is willing
to continue to serve the City. We have the bond validation coming
up. subdivisions that we need worked out and numerous other
problems facing the City. We hire an attorney and when he gives
us an opinion. we should abide by whatever the opinion is. We
can disagree with it but it puts the attorney in a position where
if he had to defend us. he would have to step aside. In this
particular case he has already given us an opinion. We hire an
attorney. we hire an engineer and we hire accountants to give us
professional assistance and we should abide by what they tell us.
Councilman Asting said that he had read Mr. Woodis opinion and
he does not think that the Attorney was fully aware of all the
facts of the situation when he wrote that opinion. Unfortunately,
we find out now that the State Attorney's office only investigates
criminal matters and we were not implying that the actions we
requested an opinion on were criminal.
Councilman Sikes said that the information given to Mr. Wharton
was. in: some instances. mis-stated and some of it was untrue.
Mayor Christy asked if there were any comments from the audience.
Mr. Frank Opal questioned whether or not a special meeting to
rehire the City Attorney was in order.
Mayor Christy said that the motion was in order and called for
a vote.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 3-2. Councilman Asting and
Councilman Ledbetter voted NO.
Garbage Collection
Mayor Christy discussed the problems we have been having with
Tomoka Refuse Co. During the past few days. the service has
been extremely bad. It became necessary to send out City employees
to pick up garbage. We picked up over 30 yards of garbage. The
truck had broken down and it was sitting on 442 on Wed. morning
at 4:00 A.M. They are not maintaining schedules. He plans to
charge them $1.000.00 for the pickups.
Attorney Woods said that we have provisions in the contract that
says the Council designeee should handle problems with the Tomoka
people. The designee~ is the Police Chief.
Mayor Christy said that we have been threatened with a law suit.
Attorney Woods said that the Council designee should notify the
company. by letter. as specified in the contract, that there has
been a breach of contract and specify the manner th-which there has
been a breach of contract. If within a period of seven days, the
contractor has not eliminated the condition considered to be a
breach of the contract the designee shall so notify the Council
and a hearing shall be set within fifteen days of said notice.
Mr. Woods advised the, Council to comply with this section of the
contract and get a certified letter out by tomorrow specifying
the breaches of the contract.
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Councilman Ledbetter made a motion that the Ordinance of the City
of Edgewater be upheld to the letter of the law on this after
sundown violation of picking up garbage and that the Chief of
Police be instructed to enforce this to the hilt.
Councilman Sikes asked if Mr. Ledbetter wanted the Police ~hief
to write that we are intending to hold back two days or a $1,000.
Councilman Ledbetter said he was not talking about the $500. a
day he was talking about picking up garbage at all hours of the
n i g ht.
Mayor Christy said that the Attorney has said we can legally
penalize them for each route.
Councilman Sikes said that he should include in his motion
that this is a breach of contract and that we intend to withhold
$1,000.00 ,
Attorney Woods said that everything that is a breach of contract
should be included for instance, the title to vehicles.
Chief Baugh said that the Council did not desi~nate him to work
as ~ liaison with Tomoka until almost a year a~ter the contract
was signed. However, those papers were never submitted to the
City as far as the titles to the trucks or anything of that nature.
Councilman Si.kes seconded Councilman Ledbetter's motion.
Mr. Walter Gross questioned whether the Council had an alternative
if the contract is b~oken. .
Mayor Christy said he planned to talk about that.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Christy gave the Council copies of information on payroll
figures for the cost to the City to have drivers and pickup men,
if we go into the garbage business. A driver for one year would
be $10,037.01 that is including social security, workmen's compo
health and pension. For one laborer it would be $9,107.79. He
also had figures on the approximate cost of gasoline. Port Orange
can take care of some of our garbage, at this time, for a price
of $2.00 per cubic yard. We figure about 40 yds. a day, This
would cost us for one year $16,640.00. Adding another driver and
three more laborers and putting two trucks on the road, with all
the expenses would cost the City approximately $81,320.84. Maintenance
was not included in that figure but we could add on about~~,OOO
to $6 , 00 0 . T hat w 0 u 1 d b r i n g the tot a 1 u p to a r 0 u n d $ 9 0 , 00 0 . 0 u r
estimated income is $103,355.
The Council discussed these fi~ures and also talked with Mr.
Kelbanoff, Florida Gas Co. in the audience. Mr. Klebanoff is
waiting to get some figures on the tonnage of garbage a day in
Edgewater so that they can figure the costs for the incinerator
type garbage disposal that Edgewater and New Smyrna Beach are
interested in.
Mayor Christy said that we would be able to put quite a few of
the employees who used to pick up the garbage back on that job.
He also asked Earl Copeland to check with New Smyrna Beach about
weighing our trucks before we take them up to Port Orange.
Councilman Sikes asked what guarantee we would have as to the
cost to get rid of our garbage? We need to be sure that Port
Orange won't go up on that price.
There was more discussion about equipment and cost.
Mr. Walter Gross questioned the difference in the cost to the
City and what the City now pays Tomoka Refuse.
Councilman Sikes said that we originally made the contract
because the City needed time after we had to close our landfill.
They could pick up our garbage cheaper than we could do it.
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He reminded the Council that we were still under contract to
Tomoka.
Mayor Christy said he realized this but he wanted to present
some alternative to the Council in case it becomes necessary.
Councilman Sikes said that they had checked carefully before
~o find the cost to the City to take trucks up to Tomoka Dump
ln Daytona, unload, waiting time, mileage etc. It cost more
money than it did to sign a contract with a private concern.
Councilman Sikes made a motion that the Council authorize that
Mr. Ledbetter and Mr. Copeland check into this further and come
back with more detailed information to present to the Council.
Mr. Sikes at this point asked the City Attorney if we had the
right to do this and didn't Tomoka want to get out of their
contract?
Mr. Woods said that he did not think there was any question about
this.
Councilman Sikes continued his motion that this information
should be presented to the Council to determine whether we can
continue on with our Tomoka contract or to get into the garbage
collection business ourselves. Councilman Rotundo seconded the
motion.
Mr. Woods said that we should get this information as quickly
as possible because of the notice period in this breach of
contract provision. We want to be set if we meet with their
representatives and we decide, at that time, that they are in
breach and we are going to stop right then. We want to be able
to go into operation.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 5-0,
Councilman Sikes made another motion that in the event it becomes
necessary, on an emergency basis, that we have to pick up the
qarbage, Mr. Ledbetter as Coordinator of the Street Department and
the Mayor along with the Police Chief will have the authorization
to use your judgement on a day to day basis. You can advise the
rest of the Council of what is being done. Councilman Asting
seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 5-0.
The City Clerk read the certification of bids received for the
Hospitalization proposals.
Bids were received from:
Crown Life
Equitable Life
Time Insurance - two proposals (Tumblin and Jer~y,~Walkef)
Liberty National
Aetna Life & Casualty
Life Insurance of Virginia
There were representatives at the meeting from Crown Life,
Equitable, Time (Tumblin ), Liberty National. The representatives
filled in a sheet that compared their policy with the present
policy the City has in force now (Prudential). It was also
noted how long the quoted rates would be in effect. The Council
hopes to make a decision at the next regular meeting but the
present policy will stay in effect through Jan. 30.
After reviewing the proposals and talking to the representatives
that were present, the Council decided to hold a workshop to
allow a more careful study of these proposals. The workshop was
set for January 3, 1979 at 7:00 P.M. in City Hall.
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Councilman Ledbetter made a motion that any action on the hospitaliza-
tion be tabled until the regular Council Meeting on January 8, 1979.
Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion
CARRIED 5-0.
Councilman Asting made a motion that the meeting be adjourned.
Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion. The meeting was adjourned.
MINUTES SUBMITTED BY:
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