07-30-1979 - Regular
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CITY OF EOGEWATER
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
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Mayor Christv cplled the reaular meetino of the City Council to
order at 7100 P,M, in the Edgewater Community Center,
iWLLCALL
Mayor Robert H. Christv
Councilman Louis J. Rotundo
Councilman David C. Ledbetter
Councilman Walter 8, Sikes
Councilman Neil J. ,Astinn
City Attorney Judson Woods
City Clerk Richard Weser
Police Chief Earl Baugh,
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Excused
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There was a silent invocation,
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'AP P ROVA'l' '0 F' -M-I-NUT'E S
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion that the Council approve the
minutes of the July 19, 1979 Special Meetina and the July 23, 1979
Regular Meeting, Councilman R~tundo second~d the motion:
Upon roll call the'minutes of July 19, 1979 were approved 3-1. Councilman
Astin~ voted NO due to absence. The minutes of July 23, 1979 were
approved 4.,.0.
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Councilman Rotundo made a motion that the Council approve these bills
for ~ayment~ Councilman Astin9 seconded the motion.
Councilman Ledbetter asked about some bills from Robinson Equipment.
Mayor Christy said that these weie for repairs to Street Dept. equipment.
Upon roll call the motion to pay the bills CARRIED 4-0.
Mayor Christy said that the Council should consider a request from
the Water Dept, for reimbursement for a course that Robert DeLoach,
a C i t Y em p 1 0 Y e e, had t a ken toe 0 m p 1 e t e his C 1 ass "0 " 14 ate r c 0 u r s e .
The cost is $12.00,
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Councilman Asting said that this emnloyee had shown initiative in
takin~ these extra courses to improve his knowled~e and the Council
'should reimburse him.
Councilman Asting made a motion that the Council pay this reimbursement.
Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion. Uoon roll call the motion
CARRIED 4-0,
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COMMUNICAT10NS
The City Clerk read a letter from Brent Millikan regarding an
agreement for auditing services with the City of Edgewater.
Councilman Astina made a motion to authorize the City Clerk on
behalf of the Ciiy Council to sian this aoreement asha letter of
engagement with Brent Millikan effective this date. Councilman
Ledbetter seconded the motion.
The City Attorney said that the aoreement should be signed by the
Mayor and attested to by the City Clerk.
Councilman Asting amended his motion to have the Mayor sign the
a~reement.
U~on roll call the motion CARRIED 3-14
Mayor Christy voted NO.
The City Clerk read a letter. from the Board of Governors listing
reoairs that need to be done at the ballfield and requestin9 permission
from the City Council to have these repairs done:
Councilman Rotundo said that some of this work can be done by the
City but that some of the work may have to go out on bids.
Mavor Christy said that the backstop will probably have to be done
by~an outside contractor and also we will need money for grass.
Councilman Astina said that the Council should have some estimate on
what this is goin~ to cost,
Mayor Christy said that he will get an estimat~ from the Supervisor
of Parks and Recreation and report back to the Council.
Councilman Astina made a motion that the Council TABLE this until
next week. Councilman Ledbetter seconded the motion. Upon roll call
the motion CARRIED 4-0.
The City Clerk read a letter from Mr. Paul Crouch requesting to speak
to the Council relative to certain charges brought against him.
~~r. Crouch told the Council that he wished to make known public~y.
~the events and circumstances concernina a newspaoer article on July 20,
1979 about a house he is buildina at 19th and 0ueen Palm Drive in
Edqewater. The imoression has b~en qiven that he has deliberately
violated the BUildinq Code in the construction of the footing of this
house, This is false. He contracted with a licensed and bonded cement
contractor to prepare the footing and slab. The work appeared to be
satisfactory and was inspected and ~assed. About three weeks later,
he was informed that a member of the Building Code Board reported that
the footing was not in accordance with the code. He does not understand
the delay in reportin~ this to the Building Inspector. He adde? that
he understood that members of the Buildino Code Board entered hlS
property and took pictures of the work being done. He feels that.this
was trespassing and invasion of his rights. The only person who lS
authorized tq make inspections is the Building Official. He also
said that a stop work order was not issued at any time prior to July 19,
1979. He feels that he has been made a scapegoat by members of the
Building Code Board in an effort to push through a more stringent law
-- beamed at the individual home builder in Edgewater. He added that he
feels that the State of Florida has adequate laws concerning the individual
home builder.
Mayor Christy asked Mr. Crouch if he was plannin9 to bring any charges
concerning this problem.
Mr, Crouch answered no.
Councilman Astina asked if members of the Building Code Board have the
riaht to ao on a' construction site and inspect the work being done.
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Mr. Wo~ds said t~at they could with permission of the owner or if
they were accompanied by the Building Official;' The Build1n9 o.fficial
is the only person with the authority to go on ~ro?erty at all times,
The City Clerk read a letter from the Merit Board statino that it
is their understanding ~hat some supervisors are receiving overtime
oay and that others are not. They request that the Council furnish
the board with a breakdown of how to pay su~ervisors overtime after
forty hours.
Mr. Weser said that the City has two supervisors that were not
aooointed by resolution. Another supervisor who was appointed by
resolution does receive overtime: This means that the City has three
supervisors who receive overtime, There is a Question about the
official title of two supervisors. Mr, Feeney; a~pointed by a resolution
as a superintendent of the Water Plant at an annual salary of $9880..0.0.
per annum. Mr. Bosse was appointed by resolution as a lead operator
at the Wastewater Plant and subsequently he was made a supervisor in
the Wastewater Plant but there is no record of this appointment.
Mr. Wadsworth is a suoerintendent of the Water Works and there is no
resolution designatin~ this title, Mr. Wadsw~rth and Mr, Bosse are
presently on hourly salaries. In answer to the Question from the
Merit Board these people are supervisors or superintendents, all
su~ervise more.than three people and all should th~refore be,under
the wage and hour act, exempt and not eligible for overtime payments.
If the Council wishes to continue to pay these people overtime they
could, in the event there was a union sometime in the future, endanger
the other supervisors who are not bein~ paid overtime, Those other
supervisors include Chief Baugh, Mr, Copeland, M~. DeGroot and the
City Clerk. He recommended that the Council consider desianatinCl,
by resolution form~ the titles of Mr. Wadsworth and Mr. Bo~se an~
designate that they be on an annual. salary. This would preclude them
from being paid overtime and put them in line with other supervisors
designated by the Council.
Councilman Asting said that he was under the impression that Mr. Bosse
and Mr. Wadsworth were suoerintendents. When he took office. he was
informed that Mr. Bosse was superintendent of the Wastewater Plant and
that Mr. Wadsworth was supervisor of the Water Dent. . Both of these
men are often called out during the night to effect repairs to the
water lines or sewer plant malfunctions.
~ Mayor Christy said that other supervisors like the Chief and Mr. Copeland
also are called out at night,
Councilman Asting asked how the salary of Mr. Bosse and Mr. Wadsworth
compares .to Mr, Copeland's salary for example?
Councilman Ledbetter said that he believed those peo~le were paid more
than Mr, Copeland.
Councilman Asting made a motion to table
so that the Council can find out what the
Councilman Lerlbetter seconded the motion.
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this matter until next week
different salaries are.
Upon roll call the motion
Councilman Ledbetter added that if vou were aoina to pay one suoervisor
overtime you're 90in~ to have to pay them all. .
The Citv Clerk read a letter from the Merit Board requesting some office
su~plie~ that the Board needs..
Councilman Rotundo made a motion that the City Clerk should take care
of this, Councilman Asting seconded the motion. Uoon roll call the
motion CARRIED 4~o..
The City Clerk read a letter from Paul Loeffler reqardin9 his resignation
from the Boards that he presently serves on. . ~r. Loeffler stated that
he was resigning from these Boards due to ill health.
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion that the Council accept this resignati
and send a letter of appreciation to Mr, Loeffler, Councilman Rotundo
seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0..
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The City Clerk told the Council that Mr. Loeffler's resiqnation
leaves vacancies on the Planning Board, the Industrial Board and
the Building Code Board.
The City Clerk read a letter from Mr.DeMatthews who lives near
the corner of Park Ave. and Flaqler. Mr. DeMatthews stated that
North Flaaler is a shell road leadina to Lone Star Cement Co.
and is used from early morning till night time by heavy trucks.
This creates a serious dust and dirt oroblem for the residents in
the area. He requested that the Council do something to improve
this situation.
Councilman Rotundo said that the City should pave some of that street.
Mayor Christy said thai part of Flagler 90in9 to the cement plant
belon~s to Lone Star and not to the City.
There was a discussion about the possibility of getting Lone Star
to help improve the road conditions.
The Citv Clerk will contact the Lone Star Co. and talk to them about
Flagler- Ave. and find out if they might be willinq to do somethin9
about improvin9 this situation,
The C i t Y C 1 e r k rea d ale t t e r fro mE, V. . - E . R , r e que s tin 9 the use 0 f
the Civil Preoaredness Storaqe Room for the puroose of storinq
emergency dis~ster supplies." The Police Dep~.. ~s presently u;ing
this storage area as an evidence room.
C 0 u n c il man Rot u n d 0 s aid t hat hew 0 u 1 d 1 00 kin t b the s tor a q e a. r ran CJ erne n t s
betwe~n the Police Dept, and E.V,E.R. and report back to"the Cou~cil.
The City Clerk read a 1etter from E,V.E.R. requesting that a Mutual Aid
a9reement be drawn UP with Oak Hill for rescue service. The Fire Dent.
pre s e n t 1 y has s u c h a'. M u t u a 1 Aid a 9 r e em en t but the res cue u nit . i sa.
separate o~ganization,
Councilman Ledbetter said that this was taxpayer's money that supported
the rescue organization and that the County has ambulance service.
Mr. Bevel, Presid.ent of E,V,E,R, said that when a fire or rescue unit
~ responds to a mutual aid call. they are usually reimbursed for the
. gasoline ~hey use and sometimes even .for equipment. It is difficult
for the Edg~water rescue unit to continually turn down calls for
assistance from outside the City, Oak Hill does not have a rescue unit
and Ed~ewater is presently trainin9 members of Oak Hill's Fire Dept.
Mr. Woods said that the City should have more information about the
agreement between the County and Beacon's ambulance service.
Councilman Rotundo said that the Council should have a letter from Oak
Hill requesting this assistance,
Mr, Bevel reminded the Council that even if E.V.E.R. should respond
to a mutual aid call, they would never leave the City unprotected.
There is always a unit on call for the citizens of Edgewater.
Councilman Rotundo made a motion that the Council table this until next
week for further study. Councilman Asting seconded the motion. Upon
roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0,
Mr. Bevel said that the Rescue Organization still needed to know
whether they can respond to calls in the. County.
Councilman Rotundo said that it was like the Fire Dept. and that they
should not respond to calls in the County.
Mr, Woods said that we mi~ht create certain problems unless we can
determine what agreement the County has with Beacons.
Mayor Christy said he will try to have an answer on that by next week.
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COORDINATORS REPORTS
Councilman Rotundo said that the Street Li~ht Fund has about $2500.
in it and he would like to select a committee to determine where
street lights are needed within the City of Edgewater.
Councilman Astin9 said that the committee should consist of the
Police Chief. a Councilman and a citizen of Ed~ewater.
Mr. Weser said that he believed the Director of ~ublic Works was
making a survey on street lights in the City.
Councilman Ledbetter said that he would like to sU9geSt that Chief
Baugh. Councilman Astin0 and Mr. George Bunch se~ve on the committee.
Mr, Bunch.said that he would not be available to serve on the committee.
Councilman ,Ledbetter asked if there were any volunteers in the audience.
Mr, Frank Opal said that he would volunteer for this committee.
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion that
Councilman Asting and Mr,Frank Opal to
Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion,
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the Council a~point Chief Bau9h,
the Street Light Committee.
Upon roll call the motion
-<>o\mci'lman Ledbett-er said that there were many things needed by the
Street Dept. but he had been informed by the City Clerk that there
wasn't an~ mon~y.
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,Coun'Ci"lm'8.n Astina read a letter from Mr. Jack Kroon requesting that he
be con~idered fb~ an appointment to the Planriing ~~ard:
Councilman Asting made a motion that Mr. Jack Kropp be appointed to
the Plannina Board, Councilman Ledbetter seconded the motion: Upon
roll call the motion CARRIED 4..0.
Councilman Astina read a letter from Mr. Madlow Jones reouestinq that
he be considered-for an appointment to the Industrial Board. .
Councilman Astinq made a motion that Mr. Madlow Jones be appointed to.
o the Industrial Board, Councilman Ledbetter seconded the motion. Upon
~ r 0 1 1 c all the mot ion CAR R lED 4 ..-'0 ,
The City Attorney will draw up the necessary resolutions.
Councilman Asting spoke to the Council concerning paving equipment.
He has been in contact with County Dept. of Transportation and it
might be possible for Edgewater to rent or borrow pavin~ equi~ment.
This would take County Council approval and the request will be presented
to the County Council on August 23. 1979. The County also said that
they would orefer to use County employees to run the equipment. We
have to start some type of road paving program, it is costin~ us $60,000
a year just to keep the roa~s in Florida Shores graded.
Councilman Ledbetter said that he did not think that it was costing us
that much. . He suq~ested that the Council consider a workshop to discuss
a paving program and the possibility of puttin~ this on a referendum.
We also have to determine how we will pay for this paving.
Mayor Christy said that we should try to get a 0rant.
Mr, .Witzig, 2218 Queen Palm,. said that he objected to paying for pavina
in Florida Shores~. .
Mr, Fredericks, 1606 S. Riverside. said that he did not think it would
be right if the whole town had to pay for paving in Florida Shores.
"Mr..Woods no report,
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,Mayer Chris~y said that he would like Council.s permission to write to
tne Dept. of Natural Resources to get more information on the procedure
for having the speed limit reduced in the Indian River.
The Council had no objection to this,
Mayor Christy also brou~ht to the Council's attention information
from the Dept. of Community Affairs concerning grants specifically
the possibility that a grant might be available for incinerator type
trash disposal system~ .
Councilman Astinq asked Chief Bauqh how his deoartment was doing on
the survey of speed limits in Florida Shores. .
Chief Baugh said that they were still working on it.
.'Rf'5'OL1JTIONS
The City Attorney read Resolution No.'-79'-'R-":-7'1
A RESOLUTION AC~EPTING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY DEDICATED TO THE CITY
OF EDGEHfI)ER, FLORIDA, PURSUANT TO qUIT-CLAIM DEEDS EXECUTED ON
AUGUST 12;' 1966 AND MARCH 8,1966, BY DOUGLAS E. AND BETTY ANN COLE
AND PRESS p, AND.MYRTLE COLE; REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT
HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE,
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion that the Council adopt this
Resolution, Councilman Asting seconded the motion. Upon roll call
the motion CARRIED 4~O.
The City Attorney read Resolution No,'i9~R~to
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING JAMES M, ~ACKIE. JR" SEBASTIAN SICILIANO,
F RAN K 0 PAL, C L A I R BOW S E R, JAM ESP, E N G L E, RAY T R 0 I A NAN D M. F, 'W H EEL E R
AS MEMBERS OF THE EDGEWATER ZONING BOARD FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS
FROM THE DATE OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION: REPEALING ALL RESOLU-
. TIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE,
CouhcilmanAsting made a motion that the Council. adopt this
Resolution, Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion, Upon rollcall
~ the motion CARRIED 4-0,
ORD'INANCES
The City ,A.ttorney read Ordinance No, 7.g''':{)''::i,4.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 1027 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE
CITY OF"EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, BY CHANGING CERTAIN ITEMS OF ANTICIPATED
REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES IN THE 'CITY OF EDGEWATER'S BUDGET FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1978 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979:
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion to table this until next week.
Councilman Astin~ seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion
CARRIED 4-0.
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'. Pavinq Equi pment
Mr. DeGroot, City Engineer, .said that at.this time he did not have too
much to add to Councilman Asting1s report on the use of County Equipment.
He is checking into this and also checking with other pavin9 companies
in the area to make a cost comparison,
'~UOlfNCE MiSCELLANEOUS
Mr. Bunch, Orange Tree Drive, spoke against the pavin9 proqram.
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Mr. Bunch continued by saying that some Councilmen seem determined to
buy pavinQ eauipment even though it will cost. a lot more than $30 000
He has heard'that the crux of this was the property north of the ;ail~
road track extending from Mango Tree Dr. that the Southeast Bank owns.
He has a feeling that some people in this area are bound to improve
that property at Edgewater's expense. He said that oil alone for
- a paving program in Florida Shores would cost $2,000,600. He said
that last week Councilman Sikes had said they could take the $60,000
used for ~rading, which ~r. Ledbetter says is not a correct figure,
and add the $30,000 which we would get from the residents of Florida
Shores, He does not know what he was alludinq to. He has heard there
is an ordinance that says the property owners'on each side of the
street would pay 1/3 of the cost and the City pays 1/3 down the middle.
He mentioned a general obligation bond issue that was used to put in
some streets and sewage at no cost to residents of Edgewater. How
about a bond issue for roads in Florida Shores? This hasn't been
mentioned,
Mr, Witzig, 2218 Queen Palm,spoke about the inequity that had been
dealt Mr. Crouch by the press and the Building Code Board. They should
apologize for invading the owner's privacy and creating the problem.
When the press prints information that is contradictory we never hear
about a correction of this information.
Mayor Christy said that the Citv had no control over what the newspapers
print.
Councilman Ledbetter said that we have a Buildinq Insoector that is
making good money for the inspections that he does but he has received
a lot of telephone calls asking how that man can make a physical
inspection on a building site sitting in his car. People have told
him that the insoector drives uo to the side of a house and sits
there with the door of his car open then backs up and goes on. Mr.
Crouch should not be blamed for the footer. When the inspector goes
out to inspect the footer he should measure the footer.
Mr, Witzig said that he understood that a measurement was made or
it was sianed and now there is a correction to it and the brunt of this
falls on the builder's shoulders, It is not the builder that s~ould
be res~onsible, it is the inspector and he thinks a correction should
be made somewhere and it is up to the Council to do it.
Mr. Vasquez, property owner in Edgewater~ temporarily residing at
t- 2807 Nee d 1 e Pal m, s p 0 k e tot h e Co u n c i 1 a b 0 u t the p a v i n 9 pro g ram i n
a Florida Shores, The people in Edgewater ~hould be one entity not
two seoarate entities such as Florida Shores and Edaewater. The
people' should either be asked to approve a general ;bli~ation bond issue
which would become the resDonsibility of the entire City and not just
Florida Shores or issue revenue certificates and make this a paying
proposition. The type of pavin9 program being presented could do more
harm to Florida Shores than ~ood. An oil base on sand only tracks the
sand into people's homes. He said that the newspapers had stated the
the Council was thinking very seriously about paving a street north
of Manao and Park Ave. and west of the railroad tracks. The property
in question which is 309 acres, and he doesn't know where the Council
will get the money to buy 309 acres for industrial use. Where are
we going to get the money to pave this road and where is it going?
The property in ~uestion is. owned by the Southeast Bank of New Smyrna
Beach and the property owner adjacent to that is Mayor George Musson
and adjacent to that is property owned by Mr. Bolt, the attorney for
the Utilities Commission. He wants to know what is takin~ place that
the citizens of Edgewater do not know about.
Mayor Christy said that he did not know about this, it was the first
he had heard about it,
Mr, Opal, 2002 Pine Tree Dr" referred to the comments mad~ by Mr. Crouch
and Mr, Witzig, and the chair does not respond to anything, The Council
had a Special Meeting on this subject and ~either of t~e~e men.were
pre s en t . The Mayo r s h 0 u 1 d tel 1 t h em a b 0 u t 1 t.. ~, r, T ~ b 1 nt' t h ~ 1 n s p e c to r
flatly admitted,and it is on record, that he ~ld n~t lnspect It. y~u
have records and you have minutes and Mr, Tobln sald that he had mlssed
the boat and he didn't aO back there and inspect or anything. It's
all a matter of record, it was our inspector that goofed and the peoDle
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should know this. Hr. Tobin~ the ins~ector~ admitted this, There
was no file. Charlie Murphy hid the file, couldn't find it. You
(Mayor) didn't have that file last Thursday at the Special Meeting.
Mayor Christy said they had the minutes. and Mr. Opal could come
in and listen to the tapes.
Mr. Opal said that he didn't need to do that he knew what the minutes
were. He sat there and heard him say that he ~oofed~ he did not
inspect it.
Councilman Ledbetter said that he thought Charles Murphy was our
inspector.
Mr. Opal said that Mr. Murphy's subordinate, Mr. Tobin, was the one
who said he goofed, he did not inspect it. These people should be
told just what is going on. He doesn't know who they are trying to
protect.
Mr. Fredericks, 1606 S. Riverside Dr., wanted to know how the City
was progressing with the animal ordinance.
Mr. Woods said he was working on it,
Mr. Fredericks also said that when they were doing the repair work
at Riverside and Rhode Island St., they used a backhoe for over five
hours banging on the blacktop, This was an expensive piece of
machinery and a cutter should have been used to break up that blacktop,
Councilman Ledbetter said that he did not know anything about this
it was the Water Dept. that was doing the work.
Mayor Christy said that he had received a phone call about this also
and he believes a cutter should have been used,
Councilman Ledbetter said the Street Dept. had a oroblem with the old
backhoe. It is using too much oil. It will take' over three weeks
to have this repaire~. However, tf there is no money in the Street
Dept. there isn't much point in discussing any repairs, The culvert
material is paid for by the Street Dept. but the money we collect
goes into the General Fund. They need to budget money for materials
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Mr. Weser said that there was no knowledge on his part to put money
back in for the sale of culverts. ,The amendment to the budget was given
to Mr, Ledbetter three weeks ago,
Councilman Ledbetter said that the City Clerk 0ave him one copy of the
amended budget on a Friday and then the following Monday gave him a
revised budget and it was only two weeks a'go,
Mr. Weser said that when they set up a budget for the garbage collection
as a separate item, they could have done the same for culverts, However,
this was not done and this could have been added to the Street Dept.
if he had had the information earlier.
'Councilman Ledbetter said that he wanted the budget amended to ~ive
the Street Dept. money for materials that they need.
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Councilman Ledbetter made a motion to adjourn. Councilman Rotundo
seconded the motion. The'meeting was adjourned.
Minutes Submitted by:
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