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CITY OF EDGEWATER
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Christy called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M. in the Edgewater
Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Robert H. Christy
Councilman Louis J. Rotundo
Councilman David C. Ledbetter
Councilman William B: Glaser
Councilman Neil J. Asting
City Attorney Judson ~oods
City Clerk Joseph Herget
Police Chief Earl Baugh
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Excused
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INVOCATION
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The invocation was given by Rev, Boggs\
SALUTE TO FLAG
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion to~approve the minutes of November 12, 1979.
Councilman Glaser seconded the motion\ Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0.
BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
Councilman Rotundo made a motion that the Council approve the bills for
November 16th and November 19th~ for payment' Councilman Ledbetter seconded
the motion.
Councilman Glaser asked about the Briley, IHld bill:
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0~
BIDS
Mayor Christy asked the Council.~ permission to move the bids above communica-
tions so that the bids can be decided upon~
Councilman Rotundo made a motion to reject the bid from Chrysler and re-
advertise for the police cars~ Councilman Ledbetter seconded the motion. Upon
roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0:
City Clerk Herget\read the bids from Bristol, The Taulman Sales Company and
A,W,K. Industries on recording devices for the ~tFeet Department.
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Mayor Christy said that with the Council hS permission the bids would be turned
over to Mr. Feeney for his r~commendation~
COMMUNICATIONS
City Clerk Herget read the letter from Mr." Bosse regarding a sewer charge
for Mr. Armstrong.
City Attorney Woods advised that the Council table this until December 3rd
meeting.
Councilman Rotundo made a ~otton to table the sewer charae: Councilman
Glaser seconded the motion, Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4~O:
City Clerk Herget read the letter from Councilman Glaser to appoint Mrs. Kane
to the Board of Adjustment.
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Councilman Glaser made a motion that Mrs. Lois Kane be appointed to the Board
of Adjustment. Councilman Ledbetter seconded the motion. Upon roll call the
motion CARRIED 4-0.
City Clerk Herget read the letter from Mr. K. Bosse to reject the Pelican Cove
Lift Station.
Mr Ledbetter made a motion to accept Mr Bosse1s recommendation to reject
the lift station. Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion.
Mr. Armstrong spoke to the Council about the Wildwood Lift Station.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0.
€ity Clerk Herget read the letter from Mr. Workman concerning changing the
City Ordinance on the closing time of Lounges from 2:00 A.t1. to 4:00 A.M.
Mr. Workman stated that he would like to stay open until 4:00 A.M. for
financial reasons.
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion to reject the request. Councilman Rotundo
seconded the motion.
Rev. Boggs supported the Council in their decision to reject the request.
Mr. Dan Nolan stated that he felt the Council should give Mr. Workman every
right for consideration to stay open,
Chief Baugh said that he felt an officer would have to patrol that area if
the hours were changed.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0.
City Clerk Herget explained the letter from the East Volusia t10squito Control
District concerning authorization for low level spray flights.
Councilman Rotundo made a motion to authorize Mayor Christy to sign the
agreement with East Volusia Mosquito Control District. Councilman Glaser
seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0.
City Clerk Herget read the letter concerning a request for street lights.
Councilman Rotundo suggested some kind of sign which would glow in the dark.
Chief Baugh requested permission to check the situation out with Councilman
Asting and Mr. Opal.
The Council decided to turn this over to the street light committee.
City Clerk Herget read the Home Occupational License for Mr. Rathbun oft
1414 Pine Tree Drive,
Mr. Rathbun stated that he would not be storing any equipment or paints at
his home.
Councilman Rotundo made a motion to grant this request. Councilman Glaser
seconded the motion. UpOl1 roll- call the motion CARRIED 4-0.
Mayor Christy asked Mr. Feeney to give the Council a report on his decision.
Mr. Feeney recommended Bristol at $3,984.00.
There was a long discussion at this time.
Councilman Rotundo made a motion to accept the bid from Briston at $3,984.00
installed. Councilman Glaser seconded the motion.
Mr. Gross asked if there was any way to use the old alarm system? He also
thanked Mr. FeeneY-for comming.
Mayor Christy said no.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0.
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COORDINATORS REPORT
Councilman Rotundo told the Council that the Fire Department contract was
ready.
City Attorney Hoods said that the contract was between the County and
Edgewater.
Councilman Glaser made a motion to acceot the Fire District Contract.
Councilman Rotundo seconded the motion.' Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0
Councilman Rotundo called Mr. Doug Cole to speak to the Council.
Mr. Cole explained that a portion of the FPL property belonged to him and
he would like to have that zoned to R-4 Multi Family.
Mr. Siciliano stated that Mr. Coles property was zoned separate.
The Council agreed that Mr. Cole1s property was zoned R-4 Multi-Family.
Councilman Ledbetter no report.
Councilman Glaser no report.
Councilman Asting no report.
City Attorney Woods no report.
City Clerk Herget no report.
RESOLUTIONS
The City Attorney read Resolution No. 79-R-114.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE AMENDMENT
OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT DATED JANUARY 18, 1979, CREATING THE VOLUSIA
COASTAL AREA METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION HEREINAFTER REFERRED TO AS THE
"MPO"; REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Rotundo made a motion to adopt this resolution. Councilman
Ledbetter seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0.
ORDINANCES
The City Attorney read Ordinance No. 79-0-34 (second reading).
AN ORDINANCE ANNEXING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY JOHN W. ROWLEY TO THE
CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, PURSUANT TO SECTION 171.044 OF THE FLORIDA
STATUTES; REDEFINING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA;
PROVIDING THAT SAID ANNEXED PROPERTY SHALL BE ZONED R-l; PROVIDING THAT A
CERTIFIED COpy OF THE ORDINANCE SHALL BE FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT
COURT IN VOLUSIA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE, STATE OF
FLORIDA, UPON ADOPTION; PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION OF THIS ORDINANCE; REPEALING
ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Rotundo made a motion to adopt this ordinance. Councilman Glaser
seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 3-1. Councilman
Ledbetter voted NO.
The City Attorney read Ordinance No. 79-0-37.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 606.02(b) B-3 HIGHWAY SERVICE BUSINESS DISTRICT,
APPENDIX A OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, BY
ADDING PET GROOMING AND SALE OF PET SUPPLIES, EXCLUDING OVERNIGHT BOARDING
OF ANIMALS, AND EXCLUDING KENNELS: WHOLESALE AND RETAIL SALES OF HONEY
PRODUCTS; AND NURSERY SCHOOLS AND DAY CARE CENTERS AS PERMITTED USES IN THE
B-3 ZONING DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCE
IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion to adopt this ordinance. Councilman
Rotundo seconded the motion.
Mr. Siciliano stated that he felt the Day Care Centers should not be permitted
uses, there should be more control.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 3-1. Councilman Glaser voted NO.
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OLD BUSINESS
SIGN ORDINANCE
There will be'a Council workshop to discuss the Sign Ordinance on December
12, 1979 at 7:00 P.M.
COST FOR SHUFFLEBOARD LIGHTS
Mr. Al Blazi stated that the cost for the lights for the shuffleboard courts
would be approximately $1,950.00 if he did the labor.
Councilman Rotundo made a motion to authorize work to be done not to exceed
more than $1,950.00. Councilman Glaser seconded the motion. Upon roll call
the motion CARRIED 4-0.
COST FOR THE STAGE BACKDROP
Mr. Blazi stated that for curtains only it would cost about $3,000.00. He
also stated that for acoustical blocks, it would only cost around $650.00.
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion to proceed with the work on the Community
Center not to exceed $1,000.00. Louncilman Rotundo seconded the motion.
There was a discussion on acoustical boards.
Mr. Siciliano suggested a spray type material for acoustics.
Upon roll call the motion CARRIED 4-0.
ASSOCIATED MARKETING CONTRACT
City Attorney Woods has not finished the contract at this time it will be
ready for December 3rd agenda.
NEEDLE PALM
City Clerk Herget read part of the minutes from Council Meeting May 7, 1979,
on repairs to Needle Palm.
Councilman Glaser said that this had been turned over to the City Engineer,
and nothing had been done. He suggested that this be turned over to the
Police Chief and the Street Department.
The Police Chief and Mr. Copeland will report back in two weeks.
Councilman Glaser spoke about paving the streets in Florida Shores. He
suggested a workshop to discuss this.
Mayor Christy said that he was trying to get a grant for the streets, he
has put in an application for this, he also got Phillips 66 information on
how to do roads and at the Mayor1s convention he found two companies that
would come and dig out the streets. He is trying to get a date set up so
that he can let the Council know when they can do this.
COORDINATOR SYSTEM
Mayor Christy said that he wanted this to wait until Councilman Asting
returned.
Councilman Rotundo asked if there should be a workshop for the City Planner
applications.
City Clerk Herget stated that the workshop on December 4th was set up for
this.
December 20, 1979 was set up for the bids on the Police Cars to be back no
later than 4:00 P.M. Readvertise for 79 & 80 Cars.
Mayor Christy said that the City Clerk could open them and then he would
call a special meeting to take the necessary action.
AUDIENCE MISCELLANEOUS
None.
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NEW BUSINESS
Mayor Christy spoke about the VCOG on the Beach Toll. He explained that
he felt that the citizens of Edgewater were paying double taxes in this
situation. He also asked the citizens to write in their opinion on this
so that he would have something to go on.
The Council stated that they would support Mayor Christy in this.
Mr. Opal agreed that the City of Edgewater was paying double taxation.
Councilman Ledbetter asked about the 701 Plan, if it had been filed with the
State.and County?
Mayor Christy said yes.
Councilman Ledbetter asked who turned this in?
Mayor Christy said BWA.
Councilman Ledbetter suggested that Mr. Sayes be invited to a workshop
meeting. He also stated that three Zoning Board members told him that they
did not know anything about the Zoning Changes. We are going to have to ~,-
make some changes on the Zoning Bd. or he will have to vote no on recommendations
from the Board.
Mayor Christy asked Councilman Ledbetter if he wanted to make a motion on
the subject.
Councilman Ledbetter handed the Mayor a piece of paper to be read by the City
Clerk.
This following -ts tVDed verbatim from Tape 3B-10.
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The Edgewater City Council met jointly with the Zoning Board at 6:00 P.M.
on October 29, 1979 and again on November 19, 1979. The purpose of this
meeting was to consid:r zoning changes as advertised in the New Smyrna
News and Observer on October 14, 1979. This ad consisted of some 16 line
items. Public Hearing notice under the signature of the City Clerk stated
that interested citizens are invited to attend and be heard with respect
to the proposed changes. This was well afforded by our Mayor who presided
over the hearings. What seemed to surface as Mr. Mackie and his well
briefed assistant attempted to defend the recommended changes is not all
the Board members were familiar with the 16 listed changes, only Mr. Mackie
and his assistant. Mr. Mayor, to expose same or to clear the air of any
possible private interests in these recommended zoning changes, I so move
that the City Council authorize the Mayor to conduct or cause to be conducted
a complete investigation. (1) minutes of previous meetings (2) notes made
by Board members (3) maps and surveys (4) applications for zoning changes
(5) statements from Board members (6) demands for additional zoning (7) any
of other items of interest (City Clerk said here that it was all question
marks here on the paper). Sixteen line items had to come from someone:who
suggested all these changes and why.
Mayor Christy: I have a mot-ion; by Mr. Ledbetter do I have a second on that
motion?
Councilman Glaser: Who is going to do this investigation?
Mayor Christy: Let's see.
Councilman Ledbetter: According to the Charter the Mayor has the authority
to conduct an investigation on it, take depositions under oath..
Mr. Woods: Where is that?
Councilman Ledbetter: Where-i~ it?
Mr. Woods: Yes, in the Charter.
Councilman Ledbetter: I didn't say it was in the Charter, I said he has
the authority to do this.
Mr. Woods: I don I t know of any .. I I m not awa re of any such thi ng. Gounc i 1
has to act. Not the Mayor.
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Councilman Ledbetter: The Council can instruct him to conduct an investi-
gation.
Mr. Woods: You can instruct anybody on here.
Mayor Christy: He said you can instruct anybody on the Council to hold
this.
The conversation at this point between Mayor and City Attorney is not clear.
Mayor Christy: The Attorney said this is something the Council will have
to do it is not for him to do. I have a-motion made by Mr. Ledbetter and
it says Mr. Mayor to expose same and clear the air of any private interests
in these recommended zoning changes, I so move that the City Council
authorize the Mayor to conduct or cause to be conducted a complete investi-
gation and then the listing of seven different items here. One is the
minutes of previous meetings, notes made by Board members, maps, surveys,
applications for zoning changes, statements by Board members and demands
for additional zoning and then the question that sixteen line items had
to come from someone who suggested all these changes and why. That is
the motion.
Councilman Glaser: There are seven members on the Planning Board I mean
the Zoning Board, right?
Mayor Christy: Yes.
Councilman Glaser: When I was on the Board of Adjustment we got all of
their minutes and there was always at least five people present and I can
remember some of their minutes where some of these things were being
discussed and now there are people on the Zoning Board that say they didn't
know what was going on?
Mayor Christy: Yes, I have had somebody approach me and make the same
statement.
Councilman Rotundo: When they have a meeting that is the place for these
Board members to express their opinions at the meeting. Whenever we get
their recommendations from the Zoning Board it is always 6 to 0 or 5 to 0
or 7 to O. It is always unanimous.
Mayor Christy: I believe what the question has been is like No.7 here that
sixteen line items had to come from somewhere, who suggested all these
changes and why. I believe that is one of the questions and another one
is the demand for additional zoning. Who made that demand. The minutes
we all have, notes would be read in the minutes, maps and survey, I think
we have those. But the applications for zoning changes, I don't know if
we have them or not. Statements from each of the Board members is another
one of the requests. I have a motion on the floor now gentlemen from
Mr. Ledbetter, do I have a second to that motion?
Councilman Glaser: Do you both feel that this ought to be done?
Mayor Christy: I would like to know where all the sixteen line items came
from that is one thing I would like to find out, but I don't think it should
just be me alone. If anybody gets involved in it, I think it should be the
City Clerk should get involved in this too, if there is any investigation or
any checking or any requesting of any information. It seems awfully funny
...1 see what Mr. Ledbetter is pointing out, the fact that the (mike trouble)
.. I can't understand why, to give you one example, FPL thing has me
really upset. That is really being, let me see how I can use the word..
It isn't right to zone a business, an industrial thing, into a residential.
Councilman Ledbetter: A necessity to the Community as a whole.
Mayor Christy: Just to give you one point, that FPL should have been in
I-I or industrial of some type because that is what it is. We need that
FPL why should we change it to a residential? I can1t understand the
thinking of zoning these into residential. We had a problem already over
here we just tried to correct with the honey place.
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Councilman Ledbetter: All right, you held a public hearing...
Mayor Christy: The man had to pay $50 in order to get it changed.
Councilman Ledbetter: And now under this mess that went on a few days
ago it was on back in and we just passed on it, honey and honey products,
we're changing the whole deal there.
Mayor Christy: And what will we be doing, we will be zoning FPL out of
business because you make a residential area out of it and then what are
you going to do are they going to have to pay another $50 to get it
changed back again? Do we have to go through that process? These are
the things I'd like to know why. Who requested these things?
Councilman Glaser: My feelings on this is that they had meetings and
they voted what to present to the Council. I didn't like to see sixteen
items here but that is the way they chose to do it. Now if there are
people on the Zoning Board that didn't know what was going on or if
things were done without their knowledge, that is a problem. Either it
is their problem or it is the Board's problem. I mean either they didn't
show enough interest to go to the meetings or maybe somehow they didn't
know what was going on, either by design or whatever. That is a problem
and if someone wants to look into that I can see doing that. As far as
the sixteen items that were presented to the Council, I assume that all
of them were voted on by the Board as a whole when they had a quorum.
The fact that they chose to zone things in a particular way, I didn't
agree with all their recommendations, but I assume that they agreed when
they voted to do it and I can't fault them for that. Maybe we should
get together with the Zoning Board, all seven of them, and let them air
their complaints.
Mayor Christy: What I would like to do, I don't know where I'm going to
get the time, but I'd like to go back over all those minutes and find out.
Joe could you help me. Maybe we can get one of the girls to give us a
hand too. Look into this and bring it back to the Council. Then if you
want to take any action we can do so. Do you want to withdraw your motion?
Councilman Ledbetter: Okay, I will withdraw my motion.
End of the verbatim minutes:
Mr. Siciliano spoke to the Council and said that Mr. Ledbetter was
referring to him as the assistant. The Zoning Board has worked for over
a year and a half with meetings and workshops. Most of the Board members
attended all these meetings. We discussed these changes, argued over
some of them and then agreed on the recommendations to the Council. If
three members now say they didn't know about some things, why did they
vote for it? They shouldn't be on the Board if they do not understand what
is going on.
Mr. Armstrong asked about the rezoning of land just south of Edgewater
and they held a hearing on and maybe even passed the first ordinance on
that property?
Mayor Christy: An ordinance was not written up.
Mr. Armstrong asked if it was not true that there were some maps showing
that it was not allowed under the annexation statute.
Mayor Christy said that the Attorney had pointed out this would be an
enclave.
Mr. Armstrong added that this was a very serious business and the Council
should look into this very closely. If we are not getting one hundred percent
we should be.
Mr. Opal said that the Board had voted on somethings that they didn't know
about. He also said they had had wrong maps presented. I objected to it
and mentioned the enclave. It is always hurry up and pass something. I
made a motion a long time ago about not acting on anything unless we have
it on our agenda and get it the Friday before our regular meetings.
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Mayor Christy said that he would get back to the Council with information
on this public hearing.
Councilman Rotundo asked if the Council was accusing someone of doing
something wrong.
Mayor Christy said he did not think we were accusing anybody. He did
question why some of the zoning changes were requested.
Councilman Rotundo made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Councilman
Ledbetter seconded the motion. The meeting was adjourned.
Minutes submitted by:
Donna Prevett
Nancy Blazi
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