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CITY OF EDGEWATER
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
July 28, 1980
Mayor Robert H. Christy called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
in the Edgewater Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Robert H. Christy
Councilman Louis J. Rotundo
Councilman David C. Ledbetter
Councilman James H. Cameron
Councilman Neil J. Asting
City Attorney Judson I. Woods
City Clerk J.G. Herget
Police Chief Earl Baugh
Present
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INVOCATION
Silent
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion to approve the minutes of the
meeting held July 21, 1980. There were no questions on the motion.
Upon roll call vote the motion CARRIED 3-1. Mayor Christy voting
no and stating that he was not present at that meeting.
BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
Councilman Cameron made a motion to pay the bills, being seconded
by Councilman Ledbetter. There were no questions on the motion.
Upon roll call vote the motion CARRIED 3-1. Mayor Christy voting
no.
COMMUNICATIONS '
Mayor Christy stated that before we go into communications he
wanted to read from the Charter Section 2-30 "Decorum -- Any
person making personal, impertinent or slanderous remarks shall
not be" He added that he is pulling off two letters from the
agenda, one being from Mr. Williams and the other from Mr. Dyett.
Cbuncilman Cameron made a motion that these letters be read, being
seconded by Councilman Asting.
Mayor Christy stated that these letters will not be read.
Councilman Ledbetter stated that he is at a loss as to why this
man is jumping allover him.
Upon roll call vote the motion DIED 2-2. Mayor Christy and
Councilman Ledbetter voting no.
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Councilman Ledbetter stated that he sees no reason for reading
these letters.
Councilman Cameron stated that he will bring this up under his
coordina tor ':s report.
Mayor Christy called Councilman Cameron out of order and warned
him that he would be escorted out for further actions.
The City Clerk read a letter from the Board of Adjustments con-
cerning a variance request from Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Nelson on
the building located at 302 Linda Street. The request is for
all' 2" variance so that the owner will comply with the 20'
required rear setback.
Councilman Cameron made a motion to accept the recommendation
from the Board of Adjustments and approve this variance, being
seconded by Councilman Asting. There were no questions on the
motion. Upon roll call vote the motion CARRIED 4-0.
The City Clerk read a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Niemiec in reference
to the problem they are having with Third Street. This is officially
a dead end street and commercial vans and cars are going and coming
through the Ohlson's yard on East Marion Avenue from Third Street.
Also, as previously asked, he would like something done about the
cement on the street in front of Mrs. Sepkoski's lot.
Mr. Niemiec was given the floor to explain this problem to the
Council. He went into a rather lengthy explanation of this.
Attorney Woods stated that unless we vacate the street there is
nothing that can be done about vehicles going back to the Ohlson's
residence. However, he added that he would like to speak to the
State Attorney's office about the threatening letter that Mr. Niemiec
states that he has received from the Ohlson's.
Chief Baugh spoke to the Council about the situation with the
Ohlson's property. He added that the place has been cleaned up
and the traffic going down that road is going back to the Ohlson's
house; he does not feel that we can stop this traffic flow.
Attorney Woods agreed that there is nothing that can be done.
He will get a letter off to the State Attorney's office.
Mr. Copeland, Supervisor of the Street Department stated that
as far as the concrete in the street goes, you don't want to
dig it up because then you will have a big hole in the road.
COORDINATOR'S REPORTS
Councilman Ledbetter asked Mr. Copeland to tell the Council what
he found out about the mower that the Council discussed at the
last meeting.
Mr. Copeland told the Council that he and Mr. Cameron looked at
the mower, which would be for ditch banks, slopes and such.
Councilman Cameron filled the Council in on the features of the
mower. He stated that he was very impressed and he feels that
this type of equipment would be an asset for the ~ity.
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Attorney Woods asked if there are other companies that could
bid on this type of equipment?
Councilman Cameron stated that most tractor dealers would have
this, and it could go out on bids. He made a motion that we
advertise to accept bids for this type of mower, bids to be
back by noon August 22nd to be discussed at the Council meeting
August 25th, being seconded by Councilman Ledbetter. There were
no questions on the motion. Upon roll call vote the motion
CARRIED 4-0.
Mr. Copeland told the Council that his department is still in
need of a trash truck.
Councilman Ledbetter made a motion that we go out for bids on
a trash truck, specifications to be picked up at City Hall,
the time to be the same as the mower bids, being seconded by
Councilman Cameron. There were no questions on the motion.
Upon roll call vote the motion CARRIED 4-0.
Councilman Ledbetter stated that this will have to come out of
the Street Department's funds.
The City Clerk stated that he understood this from the last
conversation he had with Mr. Copeland.
Councilman Cameron stated that a Mr. Clyde Allen contacted him
in regards to having a road maintained. This was checked out
and we found that this is a dedicated 12 foot right-of-way.
Mr. Allen would like to see this road graded and shell put on
it, and he is willing to give an additional 8 feet to make it
a 20 foot right-of-way. (This is Community Dr.)
Attorney Woods stated that you would have to get the additional
footage before the City could do anything.
Councilman Cameron explained that there is no problem on Mr. Allen's
part in getting the additional 8 feet, however there is one other
property owner, Mr. Stanley from Georgia, between Mr. Allen's
property and Ridgewood Avenue. He asked the Council to authorize
the City Attorney to contact these two men and see if they will
deed this property to the City.
Mayor Christy stated that we won't need a motion on this unless
there is some objection; we can just instruct the Attorney to
go ahead with this.
Councilman Cameron has a request from Mr. Gene Harris, who went
to the Department of Environmental Regulations for a permit and
he needs to reply with certain information from the City.
The City Clerk read this letter to the Council, explaining what
the requirements are in order to grant this permit to Mr. Harris.
Mayor Christy stated that this should have been put on the agenda.
Attorney Woods stated that this is their permitting procedure,
there is a report by which they follow. He added that he would
like a chance to look this over. and then the Council can vote
to approve or disapprove of what Mr. Harris is requesting from
the Department of Environmental Regulations.
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Oouncilman Cameron explained that Mr. Harris is putting in a
bulkhead down at Edgewater Acres to keep the bank from erroding
and washing into the river. He feels that this should be granted.
Mayor Christy stated that copies will have to be made of this and
'given to the Attorney and all of the Council for the agenda for
next Monday's meeting.
Councilman Cameron asked the City Clerk if he would explain to
the Council and the people present why he is leaving the City.
City Clerk Herget explained that he is returning to the service.
He has heard about the letters floating around that he is leaving
because of the present Council; his leaving is no reflection on
anyone here.
Councilman Cameron stated that he has another letter that he
would like to have the City Clerk read into the record.
Mayor Christy stated that if this is the letter that was voted
on earlier, it is not going to be read. He explained that he
has the power to have anyone escorted out of the meeting and
he is warning Councilman Cameron :for the last time that he is
out of order.
Councilman Cameron stated that the public should hear a resident's
statement; we have had orderly meetings for the last couple of
months and all of a sudden it's like Russia again.
Mayor Christy stated that he is here against his doctor's orders,
Attorney Woods broke into the discussion at this time and asked
the Council to get down to City business. He added that there
is a lot of important business that is pendingthat we have not
been able to handle because of the adverse publicity that is
going on. He asked if the Council could try to cooperate.
Mayor Christy stated to Councilman Cameron if another outburst
was made, he would be escorted out.
Councilman Asting stated that the City has Some $350,000.00 in
funds that they reinvest in Certificates of Deposit monthly.
He would like to make a motion that the City Clerk advertise
this money for bids from local banks for a 30 day period, a
60 day period and a 90 day period to see what interest rates
we can get on this, being seconded by Councilman Cameron.
Councilman Ledbetter asked if this includes Water and Sewer money,
and if this means we would be intermingling our funds?
Councilman Asting explained that there are two separate certifi-
cates.
The City Clerk explained that you have $50,000.00 in a regular
passbook saving account, which this Council voted on doing because
you can draw the same interest rate without penalty for early
release. You have one certificate of deposit marked specifically
for the Sinking Fund and you have one marked for the City of Edge-
water, which are separate. This makes the total amount.
There was discussion about the limit of time to set on th~s.
The City Clerk explained that you get a higher rate of interest
if you invest your money for 60 days or 90 days, you also pay
a penalty in your interest rate if you draw your money out before
that time is up. He explained that he has gone out to these banks
for this information and all of the local banks are very close in
the rates that they will pay. He added that New Smyrna Beach goes
out for this every month before they reinvest.
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Councilman Ledbetter stated that there is money in the Water
and Sewer Funds that can not be intermingled, because sooner
or later if you do this, all of the money will be in the General
Fund.
Mayor Christy stated that up until July it had not been inter-
mingled.
The City Clerk stated that nothing has been changed with the
money. He stated that he has not intermingled the money.
Councilman Cameron stated that all this motion is asking to
go out on bids and he has the City's best interests in mind
and thinks we should do this.
Councilman Asting repeated his motion to ask for interest rates
on 30 days, 60 days and 90 days. When the bids come back, the
Council can make the decision for which one. The bids to be
back on August 15, to come to the Council meeting on August 28th.
Mayor Christy asked the City Attorney what his opinion is of all
of this.
Attorney Woods stated that as long as you are maintaining your
funds for your bonds, your Sinking Fund, then it is fine. It
is just a question of where you can get the best return of your
money.
Upon roll call vote on the motion it CARRIED 3-1. Mayor Christy
voted no.
Attorney Woods stated that,at the request of the Council,he has
been negotiating the purchase of some property for a new water
well for the City. He believes that we are going to have a
donation of some property in the near future. Mr. Testa, from
Magnuson Corporation is going to get back in touch with him in
the next week or so. The next step will be getting some Depart-
ment of Environmental Regulation permits, and he doesn't feel that
there will be any problem there.
The City Clerk read a letter from the Fire Department in regard
to four members attending a training program. The cost will be
$120.00 for the registration, and they also request mileage payment.
Councilman Cameron made a motion to pay the $120.00 to attend this
seminar, including the mileage, being seconded by Councilman
Asting. There were no questions on the motion. Upon roll call
vote the motion CARRIED 4-0.
Councilman Asting stated that he would like to ask a question of
the City Attorney. He said that we have an Ordinance that states
that any communication submitted to the City Clerk by noon on
Thursday for the agenda, be put on the agenda. He questions
Mayor Christy's right to take these two letters off of the agenda.
Mayor Christy stated that this was voted on and it is a dead issue.
He gave the opinion.
'Attorney Woods stated that you did vote on the Ordinance to have
items in by noon on Thunsday to be put on the agenda. It is a
procedural matter and was brought up on a motion and decided on
a two to two deadlock that they will not be read. If these people
are here to speak on the matter, he feels that they should be
allowed to.
Mayor Christy stated that if anyone wants to read these letters,
they can go to City Hall.
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Mayor Christy stated that he was attending this meeting against
his doctor's orders. He was told not to return until August 15th,
so I came back to let you know, and I am not coming back until the
15th. His attorney will take care of the issue in court.
He stated that a motion was brought up about two story buildings
on Riverside Drive. This motion died. It was brought back up
again and according to the 880 Ordinance you can not do this,
you must wait one year. This was done illegally. He asked the
City Attorney if this is correct?
Attorney Woods stated that this is not correct, and they have gone
over it.
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Mayor Christy stated that this will be taken care of in court too.
Also, Councilman Asting brought up a petition one time with about
500 signatures on it about a bus service. This petition was
honored, yet 613 people have a petition in for an election.
He would like the Council to move to honor this petition and let
the people vote on what they want. He would like the date moved
up to the September primary election.
Councilman Ledbetter stated that he would like to see the date
moved up. He made a motion that the petition be placed on the
primary election.
Mayor Christy seconded the motion.
Councilman Cameron stated that he was also in the courtroom and
the Judge said that the Council was within it's legal rights to
put it on the November ballot.
Councilman Asting stated that he has no questions.
Mr. Holahan was given the floor. He spoke to the Council in favor
of putting the referendum on the primary election. He asked the
Council to go along with the will of the people of Edgewater and
let them vote on this as soon as possible.
Mr. Clay Henderson was given the floor. He reminded the Council
that we are under an appeal in regard to this matter. We can
save a lot of time by putting this on the September primary.
The citizens have initiated the desire for some changes. He
asked that the Council let the people decide and put the person-
alities aside and get back to City business.
Councilman Asting stated that Mr. Henderson is speaking for one
tenth of the people of the City of Edgewateri this is the way
he is looking at this.
Mayor Christy stated that he would like to speak now that every-
one else has. He is not afraid to run for office again. The
Council should abide by the will of the people.
Upon roll call vote the motion DIED 2-2. Councilman Cameron and
Councilman Asting voting no.
RESOLUTIONS
City Attorney Woods read Resolution No. 80-R-169
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING EARL WALLACE TO THE EDGEWATER ZONING
BOARD, OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA: REPEALING ALL RESO-
LUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Cameron made a motion to adopt this resolution, being
seconded by Councilman Asting. Upon roll call vote the motion
CARRIED 4-0.
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ORDINANCES
City Attorney Woods read Ordinance No. 80-0-63 (Second reading)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1706.6(b) OF THE 1976 SOUTHERN
STANDARD BUILDING CODE AS ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF EDGEWATER,
FLORIDA; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION OF THIS ORDINANCE INTO
SECTION 7-21 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF EDGE-
WATER, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES
AND RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR PUBLICA-
TION OF THIS ORDINANCE BY TITLE ONLY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
Councilman Asting made a motion to adopt this Ordinance, being
seconded by Councilman Ledbetter. There were no questions on
the motion. Upon roll call vote the motion CARRIED 3-1. Mayor
Christy voted no, stating that he is not familiar with this.
City Attorney Woods read Ordinance No. 80-0-64 (Second reading)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 13-22 OF THE CODE OR ORDINANCES OF
THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA BY INCREASING THE MEMBERSHIP OF
THE MERIT BOARD FROM FIVE TO SEVEN MEMBERS, AND FURTHER PROVIDING
THAT THE MERIT BOARD SHALL HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF INTERVIEWING AND
MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR NEW APPOINTEES TO
THE MERIT BOARD, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND
RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION OF
THIS ORDINANCE BY TITLE ONLY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Asting made a motion to adopt this Ordinance, being
seconded by Councilman Cameron.
Councilman Ledbetter stated that he doesn't feel that this is
in the best interests of the City employees, because they will
still only have one employee representative with more board
members.
Councilman Cameron stated that the reason for this change was
to insure a quorum at their meetings.
Upon roll call vote the motion DIED 2-2. Councilman Ledbetter
and Mayor Christy voting no.
City Attorney Woods read Ordinance No. 80-0-65 (Second reading)
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPENDIX K OF THE 1976 SOUTHERN STANDARD
BUILDING CODE AS ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA BY
REQUIRING BUILDING PERMITS BEFORE DOING ANY WORK OR CONSTRUCTION
OF ANY CHARACTER WHERE THE COST EXCEEDS $500.00, REQUIRING,
HOWEVER, THAT A PERMIT MUST BE PROCURED FOR ANY STRUCTURE CLASSI-
FIED AS A FENCE, REGARDLESS OF COST OF CONSTRUCTION, PROVIDING
FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, PROVIDING
FOR CODIFICATION OF THIS ORDINANCE AS A PART OF SECTION 7-21
OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, PROVIDING
FOR PUBLICATION OF THIS ORDINANCE BY TITLE ONLY AND PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Asting made a motion to adopt this Ordinance, being
seconded by Councilman Cameron. There were no questions on the
motion. Upon roll call vote the motion CARRIED 4-0.
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OLD BUSINESS
The item listed under old business was taken care of earlier
in the meeting.
AUDIENCE MISCELLANEOUS
Mr. Montesano spoke to the Council about the speed limit being
abused in the Florida Shores area. He would like something done
about this.
Chief Baugh said that this is the first complaint from Mr. Montesano
that he has heard, he will be more than happy to put a patrolman
out in that area.
NEW BUSINESS
Councilman Ledbetter/stated that he understands that there is an
opening on the Zoning Board. He made a motion to reappoint Frank
Opal to the Zoning Board, being seconded by Mayor Christy.
Councilman Asting asked the City Attorney if it is proper for
the Mayor to second a motion?
City Attorney Woods stated that the Mayor should step down from
the chair to second a motion.
Mayor Christy stated that he does not know where this is written
in parliamentary procedure.
City Attorney Woods stated that this has always been done by
the chairman stepping down from the chair if he wants to second
the motion.
Mayor Christy stated that other Cities do this. The Mayor in
New Smyrna Beach makes the motions. He withdrew his motion,
stating that it would die anyway.
Mr. Opal was given the floor. He stated that he attended a meeting
a few weeks ago and the chairman of the Building Code Board made
the motion. He asked if this is legal?
Mayor Christy asked the City Clerk to look into this.
ADJOURN
Councilman Asting made a motion to adjourn, being seconded by
Councilman Ledbetter. The motion CARRIED.
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